Subject: MAX Digest - 18 Dec 1999 to 19 Dec 1999 (#1999-362)
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Topics of the day:

  1. 2000+ Instruments to Convert to MSP
  2. Key disk once again Has anyone 3.59 updater old?
  3. More MTC questions


Date:Sun, 19 Dec 1999 01:51:39 -0500
From:"Dr. Richard Boulanger" <radiobaton@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: 2000+ Instruments to Convert to MSP

Dear Max List,

Forgive me... this is not exactly a Max/MSP thing... but it could be.

My good friend David Zicarelli did tell me a while back the he would like to
make a Csound object for msp (maybe in 2000 David?)

Also, many of you have used max/msp to generate
Csound note-lists or control real-time Csound.

And finally, since I always ask my Berklee students to convert Csound
instruments to MSP patches and MSP tutorials into Csound Instruments

Oh... and let's not forget that I spent the last 4 years reading antiorp here.

Hopefully some of you will be interested in the following update and
which I moments ago posted to the Csound list.

Dear Colleagues, Students and Friends,

I want to write you about the status of The Csound Book
which I have been working on for the past 5 years and tell
you of a related new project I am currently negotiating
with MIT Press.

First... about The Csound Book:

According to MIT Press, the "bound book date" for the
Csound Book is January 21, 2000. Both the Csound Book
itself and the 2 CD-ROMS which accompany it are being
reproduced at this very instant. I had no idea that these
final phases would take so long and require so many
additional back and fourths. In any case, the price is
still $55.00 and I hope that when you see it, you feel that
it was worth the wait.

My main contact at MIT Press, Douglas Sery has told me that
if any of you are interested in using The Csound Book as a
textbook in your classes this spring semester, that they
can arrange bindery shipments. To make arrangement for
this, you should contacthim directly <>.

Now... about one of my new Csound projects:

The Csound Instrument Catalog with Compressed Audio

As many of you know, The Csound Book includes 2 cd-roms
which feature an additional set of 42 chapters, 50
compositions, 2000+ working and alligned/re-edited
instruments, dozens of Csound utilities, additional html
tutorials, html and pdf manuals, Csound executables for a
variety of platforms and, of course, the source code. CD 1
is an HTML disk and CD 2 is a Data disk. But while things
were taking so long to come back from the typesetter and
the layout people, my students and I continued crunching on
instruments and began compressing all audio produced by the
2000+orchestras and scores with QDesign Pro. As a
result, I produced a 3rd html cd-rom which I am calling:

The Csound Catalog with Audio

I tried to convince MIT Press to include this CD with the
book, but they were concerned about raising the price (as
you all know, they have been advertising this thing for
more than 6 months now at and about the binding
falling apart because of too many cds stuck into the

So, I am currently negotiating with MIT Press to release
the Csound Catalog with Audio as a separate, but related
Csound Book product. There will probably be a blow-in card
in the book. I think this will happen, but new initiatives
such as these take time. To them, this represents a new
marketing model.... not exactly a book, not exactly an
Audio CD, but we are working on it. Still, I wanted
desperately to get something out there before the end of
the year, so I asked their permission to produce, sell and
distribute a limited set of theseon my own and with the
help of my student assistants, I have the e-commerce thing

Are you interested in purchasing a copy of the Csound
Catalog with Audio? If so, you can go to:

The Csound Catalog with Audio is really the 3rd CD-ROM that
should have been bundled with The Csound Book, but at
$55.00 for the book they couldn't justify it at the Press.
It is an HTML CD-ROM that contains Quicktime QDesign
compressed audio of each of the 2000+ edited, aligned,
debugged, standardized instruments in The Csound Catalog
which I have been collecting over the past 20 years. It is
unique in that itdoes not contain any of the Csound
Book's Chapter instruments. They are on one of the Book
CD-ROMS. It does not contain any of the featured Csound
Music from the Csound Book either. Those 50 compositions
are also found on the Book CD-ROMS. What is here is ALL
THE AUDIO... just a click away. You don't have to render
or complile any of the orchestras to find out which ones
are most interesting to you. I compressed the audio at a
10 to 1 ratio (still at 44.1k stereo) and the cd-rom still
totals over 500 meg. And as you well know, it would take
over 50 Audio CDs to hold all these files uncompressed and
you would be rendering Csound jobs for the next month or
two, even on the fastest Pentinum III or G4. To me, The
Csound Catalog with Audio is a wonderfully useful,
convenient and browseable, audio database. Further, I have
also included my chapter and tutorials from The Csound

Book, all linked to the newest html manual. Plus,I have
included the 4.01 mac, pc, linux executables and much more.
Quite frankly, The Csound Catalog with Audio would be ideal
for introductory courses in Computer Music and could get
you by while waiting for MIT Press to deliver the books and
other CD-ROMS!

I am charging $19.95 plus shipping ($1.20 US and $7.20
International) and $2.00 handling. A portion of the money
from this limited initial sale of The Csound Catalog with
Audio will go back to my student assistants, some will go
to the Robert Cooper Memorial Fund, some will cover the
cost of producing the cds and lastly, some will go toward
paying off my over $20,000 in outstanding debts I have
accumulated paying and supporting the 19 student assistants
who helped me complete The Csound Book (and a few hospital
bills along the way too... but that's another story.)

Please buy a copy, don't make a copy and encourage
your students to buy/not make a copy too. Thank you.

To end, I wish you all a happy and productive holiday and a
wonderful new year. Great things always happen at the turn
of the century. I hope that The Csound Book will be one of
them and maybe the Catalog will help to get you in the
spirit and gear you up.

Yours Sincerely,

Dr. Richard Boulanger


Some of you may wonder about Robert Cooper and the Robert
Cooper Memorial Fund.

Dr. Robert Cooper was a composer, teacher, father (of
three) and a Csound evangelist at the University of
Missouri, Kansas City where he worked for James Mobberley.
Robert and I developed a friendship while co-authoring an
article on Csound for Keyboard Magazine several years ago
and when doing some work together for Analog Devices (a
nice set of HTML Extended Csound tutorials). In his
mid-forties, and in seemingly good health (he was a
Vietnam vet and a black belt), he fell ill and died
suddenly and unexpectedly of a heart attack in the fall of
1997. To me, he embodied the spirit of Csound better than
anyone I had ever met and in his memory,I have dedicated
The Csound Book to him. Before passing away, Robert had
completed and submitted several chapters and a number of
compositions for The Csound Book and these are featured on
the CD-ROMS. I hope that you and many others will get to
know him from this work of his and from continued
performances of his compositions. I am sure you would have
really liked him. He was one of those kind of people that
inspire you and make you feel good about yourself. He was
the greatest kind of teacher because he was a perpetual
student himself. Whenever I was with him, I was always
touched by the spark of joy which burned in his eyes. He
was a true mentor to his students and a wonderful husband
and father to his wife and three children, (one of whom is
quite seriously ill.)Robert Cooper always put everyone
else first... family, friends, students. And still, quite
miraculously, managed to do his own work as well... and
these were beautiful and memorable creations. Dr. Robert
Cooper was great person, and is greatly missed.

The Cooper Memorial Fund was set up by family and friends
to help support his children's educational and medical
needs and I have contributed to it in the past and intend
to continue contributing to it from Csound Book, Catalog
and Audio CD profits in the future. Here is the address:

Robert L. Cooper Memorial Fund
c/o Julia White - 530
Mercantile Bank of Kansas City
PO Box 419147
Kansas City, MO64141
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor - Music Synthesis Department
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street- Boston, MA02215-3693
Office Phone: (617) 747-2485Office Fax: (617) 747-2564

Personal Webpage:
Everything Csound:


Date:Sun, 19 Dec 1999 19:03:57 +0000
From:Thorsten Olscha <thorsten.olscha@UNI-KOELN.DE>
Subject: Key disk once again Has anyone 3.59 updater old?

I get very much confused about the updater.
After two Years in which everything worked finde->hard disk crash->reinstall
After my keydisk giving me different Error Messages, I finally suceed to
install 3.5. But how to go on?
Can I use the Installer from the opcode website which says:Dont install with
Key Disk prior to 3.58? I think Ive got 3.5. Serial is: "xxx.350.xxxxxxxx".
and can I use System 8.1? or have I got to use 7.5`? (Sotrry I dont remember
and my Netscape always crahses if I try to search the Digest)
And at least: If i Use the 3.59 updater with the old Key disk do I have this
urgent "Callenge- Response" Code? (its important to me because I didnt yet
register.Yes I know I should do so!)

I would be grateful for any device.


Date:Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:04:43 -0000
From:Nick Rothwell <nick@CASSIEL.COM>
Subject: Re: More MTC questions

> Incidentally, using system real-time and MIDI clock, you should be able to
> control external devices with a great level of accuracy. I've done it for
> years.

You'll see a little clock jitter if MAX is acting as the master clock
source. It's audible (and just about visible on an LED-enabled MIDI
interface) when driving simple, isolated rhythmic patterns, less so
when the musical structures are more complicated.

I use an old R-8II drum machine as clock source, even when it's not
generating any audio. The clocking is more accurate than MAX's
internal, and I prefer the ergonomics of doing bar positioning, stop
and start using a box with real buttons.

Technical aside: MIDI beat clock, start/stop/continue are realtime
messages - which means that one is legally allowed to embed them in
other messages, although I'm sure this would cause most MIDI parsers,
software or firmware, to fall over. Bar positioning (SPP - Song
Position Pointer) is in the Channel Common part of the opcode space -
header bytes and data bytes, but no embedded MIDI channel. From what I
remember, MTC was added to part of the Channel Common space as well
(the quartet timing messages) but using real sysex for the full
positioning messages.

(Someone please pipe up if I'm wrong - it's a good five years since I
wrote parsers for this stuff, and I don't have the specs to hand.)


Nick Limited
systems - composition - installation - performance


End of MAX Digest - 18 Dec 1999 to 19 Dec 1999 (#1999-362)