Subject: MAX Digest - 27 Nov 1999 to 28 Nov 1999 (#1999-340)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:00:07 -0500
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Topics of the day:

  1. Re : problem with digi hardware
  2. powerbook audio problems
  3. audiowerk8 survival guide
  4. [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Fw:Save OMS! Sauvez OMS! [ot]] (2)
  5. Save OMS! Sauvez OMS!
  6. PB noisy sound out

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Date:Sun, 28 Nov 1999 07:06:46 +0100
From:TodorTodoroff <todor.todoroff@SKYNET.BE>
Subject: Re : problem with digi hardware

Didn't you get a dialog box that lets you choose the audio interface?
It's difficult to remember the exact error number, but I think I got the
same one just after installing a Project II board + 888 I/O on a G4 the
other day. Once I had informed the system of the type of interface, it
worked fine

Todor

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>hello list,
>
>
i'm trying to get a digidesign 882 I/O (the 20bits flavor) running with
> MSP. The system works fine with protools, so it's really an MSP/driver
> thing...
>
>
the digidesign direct i/o is sitting besides Max. When starting up, i se=
e
> "trying direct i/o", and then "error -6011, using sound manager...".
>
>
this has been tried with the digidesign INIT that's included with max an=
d
> the one that was already there.
>
>
any place i can learn what -6011 means? Is it an MSP error or a Digidesi=
gn
> error?
>
>
Thanks!

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Date:Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:28:42 +0000
From:david stevens <david@RESONANT.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: powerbook audio problems

> Roland Adams wrote

> I guess by noise people mean hum, and someone already mentioned their
> success in using a direct input box between the board and the
> powerbook.

no, the sound i was getting was that SCSI accessing noise (ATA accessing
noise i suppose)or processor-working noise, or whatever it is. ie a sort
of fizzing every time something happens in the PB.
but this sort of thing is also caused by earthing problems, is it not?
an insufficiently shielded lead somewhere is picking up the radiations
from the bus?

david

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Date:Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:54:04 +0100
From:marko kosnik <march@KUD-FP.SI>
Subject: audiowerk8 survival guide

hi,
it will soon be a year since i got msp authorized, but the audiowerk8
card i had bought long before, and one of the reasons to do so was a
very respectful mentioning of it by david z, hanging for a while on the
msp page. in the mean time some four or five updates of the audiowerk
asio driver were posted by emagic and the last try to get it working
from msp in combination with it's beta asio audio drivers had failed, as
with the previous two, posted by msp. crashing or not finding the driver
before, now the symptom is skipping it altogether when "searching
for..." is being performed, jumping straight to sound manager, as there
would be nothing in the asio drivers folder at all. at least it works
through the sound manager routed to the card, but this means two
channels only...
any advice or encouragement to keep the faith?

marko kosnik <march@kud-fp.si>
http://www.iflugs.hdk-berlin.de/emi
mirror:
http://www.radiostudent.si/~march

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Date:Sun, 28 Nov 1999 05:33:39 -0500
From:Thomas Hudson <thudson@CYGNUS.COM>
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Fw:Save OMS! Sauvez OMS! [ot]]

Francois Dechelle wrote:
>
> There is already a software that does more or less what OMS
> does and that is free software, distributed under GNU Lesser
> General Public License. It is MidiShare, by Grame. See
> http://www.grame.fr/MidiShare/MidiShare.html
for further
> information.
>
I didn't know that midishare implemented all the functionality
of OMS. One of the pieces that I thought OMS implemented that
is missing from the linux world is the ability of the user to
describe his setup of connected midi devices. It would be nice
if every application could present input and output choices
as real devices rather than card/port/channel numbers.

If OMS were open-sourced, the good parts could be integrated
with other projects like MidiShare.

Thomas

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Date:Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:37:29 +0100
From:Francois Dechelle <Francois.Dechelle@IRCAM.FR>
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Fw:Save OMS! Sauvez OMS! [ot]]

Thomas Hudson wrote:
>
> Francois Dechelle wrote:
> >
> > There is already a software that does more or less what OMS
> > does and that is free software, distributed under GNU Lesser
> > General Public License. It is MidiShare, by Grame. See
> > http://www.grame.fr/MidiShare/MidiShare.html
for further
> > information.
> >
> I didn't know that midishare implemented all the functionality
> of OMS. One of the pieces that I thought OMS implemented that
> is missing from the linux world is the ability of the user to
> describe his setup of connected midi devices. It would be nice
> if every application could present input and output choices
> as real devices rather than card/port/channel numbers.
>
> If OMS were open-sourced, the good parts could be integrated
> with other projects like MidiShare.
>
> Thomas

Hi,

This feature is present in midishare, and midishare exists
now on linux.

However, MidiShare simply cannot replace OMS and vice/versa,
mainly because of applications that are build using the OMS
API.

But there may be a good joke to do: building an emulation
of the OMS API using MidiShare (or another free MIDI
framework). This way, applications do not have to be modified
(which will anyway not happen because they are proprietary),
we don't care about Gibson and the MIDI framework is free.

What do you think of this ?

Francois

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Date:Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:15:56 -0500
From:Nicholas Longo <71477.2332@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Re: Save OMS! Sauvez OMS!

<>I heard a rumor recently that Apple was going to (or already did) buy
<>OMS from Opcode. Wouldn't that be nice...

<I seriously doubt that the petition would have started if Apple
<was in talks with Gibson to buy OMS, since one would assume that
<someone at Apple would be asking questions of Doug Wyatt, who wrote
<all the OMS code. Since Doug Wyatt himself started the petition, I
<assume he's reached some point of frustration with the lack of
<action.

<David Z.

Apple has been trying to work something out with Gibson regarding
OMS for some time, but if they're having success, that would be
news. Applying pressure on Gibson should help. But given the
personalities involved, it might only result in the further


erosion of Gibson's standing as a reputable organization.

Nick Longo
http://www.cesiumsound.com/

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Date:Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:02:26 -0800
From:Joshua Kit Clayton <jclayton@SIRIUS.COM>
Subject: Re: PB noisy sound out

I found that the European(and I'm sure elsewhere) power supplies are in
fact grounded, whereas the American power supplies are not. If you
simply lift the ground from these power supplies, you will get a _huge_
reduction in noise(I hacked apart a power strip).

However, if you have an ungrounded power supply, I don't know of another
way to reduce the noise floor.

-Joshua

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