Subject: MAX Digest - 4 Nov 1999 to 5 Nov 1999 (#1999-319)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:00:40 -0500
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Topics of the day:

  1. performance announcement
  2. tcin (2)
  3. usb interface problems
  4. tcin object
  5. Looking for advice
  6. sprintf and smart quotes
  7. seqPlayer and tempo meta events


Date:Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:14:54 -0500
From:Jeremy Bernstein <jeremy@BOOTSQUAD.COM>
Subject: performance announcement

this is a bit late, but if you're in New York City, and want to check
out what a fellow Max-er is up to, come on by. Most of the music is
not MAX-generated (one piece is), but the entire score is deployed
using a program I wrote for the purpose. Anyway, it's a great piece
of dance, and a better than average piece of music. C'mon by.

ANDREA KLEINE - memoir never was (secret tales from the annex)

- choreographed and directed by Andrea Kleine
- performed by Raquel Cion, Philip Kain, Rohana Kenin, Andrea Kleine,
Jeremy Laverdure, Carmelita Naval and Tania Varela-Ibarra
- films by Jill Dearman
- lights by Dave Overcamp

- original score by Jeremy Bernstein

Andrea Kleine returns to P.S. 122 with her new dance inspired by the
Diary of Anne Frank and the fall from fame of film noir star Veronica
Lake. A secretive and seductive journal of dreams, the piece takes
the shape of a voyeuristic documentary film as it travels the
connecting lines between despair and desire and explores the
psychology of confinement.
"a master of expression" - Village Voice / "sublime, profound beauty" - LGNY

The music is good.
"a composer who hates actors" - Village Voice

NOVEMBER 4-7 @ 8:30pm, with a post-performance discussion on the 4th
at P.S. 122 [Performance Space 122]
150 First Ave., New York, NY 10009
2nd floor - $15 dollars

call for tickets 212-477-5288

Best, Jeremy


Date:Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:50:56 -0500
From:David Bitterman <Dbit@CONCENTRIC.NET>

Subject: Re: tcin

Another question about the tcin object:

So what exactly was this dead object designed to do? It is the only
object I've found that is both triggered by and syncs to Cubase 4.1 in
my system. The cubase transport appears to trigger a clock in the tcin
object (via IAC) that outputs at a frame rate of 24 frames per second.
This syncs perfectly to cubase.


Date:Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:05:51 -0800
From:Erick Gallun <erick@EAR.PSYCH.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject: Re: usb interface problems

>I had a few problems with my b&w g3, MOTU usb midi interface, usb keyboard
>and usb trackball. Occasionally one of the three usb devices would lock up.
>I would leave my setup unattended during normal operation (as a show control
>setup) and when I'd come back the keyboard or trackball wouldn't work.

Yeah, I found that my kensington usb trackball and my midiman usb midi
interface are essentially incompatible while running MAX. Once I learned
to unplug the trackball before starting max, I stopped crashing the
computer. Not a very elegant solution, but since my powerbook has a very
nice touchpad, it's just one less peripheral to lug to performances. It
shouldn't be this way, tho...



Date:Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:43:52 -0800
From:Peter Nyboer <pnyboer@SLAMBASSADOR.COM>
Subject: tcin

For the person looking for tcin....

If you want to learn how to deal with timecode in Max, try Peter Elsea's

The method described here finds the MTC from the midistream of "midiin."I
don't know if this is any more or less efficient than "xtcin". xtcin is
probably best for rave instalations.

Lame jokes aside, I am curious about xtcin...I have had problems when a
computer is taking timecode in MIDI and simutaneously playing a DV movie.
I forget the actual error message, but it is something to the effect that
the port is hosed, and I should forget it or reset it--in my situation,
neither was particularly desireable (besides the fact that it would often
just crash the machine [blug3 w/ lots o' stuff])!

Erick of the e-mu lauchpad: you may want to see
Which is another tutorial that would probably help you with MMC questions.

Peter Nyboer
"If I had the power....
to make a woman....

--Johnny "Guitar" Watson


Date:Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:15:35 +0100
From:Roby Steinmetzer <roby@ARTS.LU>
Subject: Re: tcin object

David Z. wrote:
>tcin is an object abandoned during the development of Max 3.0,
>but for some reason I left it in the program and it was at
>some point discovered by a monkey hired by a group of Max
>enthusiasts that must have typed all possible combinations of object
>names into an object box. So, given that it is not supposed to exist
>and may not really work, I am not going to encourage anyone to use it.
In fact it is easier than this:
In the "New Object List", you can find it in the category "Midi".
That's probably where most people discover it.

I used the object in a project and had no problems with it.
This does not mean one should ignore David's advice.

Joerg Spix posted a patch it seems I once posted to the
list, though I can't remember.
This patch is not my work. Perhaps the monkey from above assembled it.
Nor can't I remember where I got it. It's simply there on my HD in
the Max help folder.
I hope it's not amnesia...

Roby Steinmetzer
Luxembourg, Europe


Date:Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:11:44 PST
From:Alejandra Odgers <aleodgers@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Looking for advice

Dear MAXers,
I'm looking for advice about good (if it's possible the best) equipment
to run max-msp. Let me explain, I work in a Multimedia Center in Mexico, we
used (some years ago) to have good computers and software, but years passed
and the equipment is the same, so our better computers are power macintosh
8100/80. Finaly the authorities told us to ask for new computers and
software in order to "update" the center, but as it usually happened, I've
to give the list with prices and all that "for yesterday", so my question
is: If you can ask for the best equipment (computer(s), software,
peripherials, convertors, sensors, etc.) in order to work with MAX-MSPWhat
would you ask for? (no need to say that this will be a wishing list much as
a letter for Saint Claus, Pere Noel, the Reyes Magos, or what ever; probably
at the end I'll receive less than half of what I asked for)
Thank you very much for any advise
Alejandra Odgers

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Date:Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:09:16 -0800
From:Peter Nyboer <pnyboer@SLAMBASSADOR.COM>
Subject: sprintf and smart quotes


I'm using a combination of message boxes and sprintf to create pathnames,
but I am running into problems maintaining the smart quotes in sprintf.
For example, I have a pathname 'HD:Desktop Folder:bin1' and a file name
"file 1", and I combine them with "sprintf %s%s" and "prepend set" this
into a message box. However, by the time it gets there, all the smart
quotes are gone, rendering the message useless (this is true if I "print"
to the Max window as well). I have tried "sprintf \'%s%s\'" "sprintf
'%s%s'"with no luck. Any clues?
Prepending and appending smart quotes won't work because of the automatic
space that pre-and-append add. I suppose if I don't use spaces in my
folder names or file names, I'm ok, but I'd really like spaces to be


Peter Nyboer
"If I had the power....
to make a woman....
--Johnny "Guitar" Watson


Date:Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:43:08 -0500
From:Eric Singer <eric@ERICSINGER.COM>
Subject: Re: seqPlayer and tempo meta events

Good idea. I've just added a new outlet to SeqPlayer which outputs
meta-events. You'll find it at See the updated help file for

We aim to please!


At 6:41 PM -0500 11/2/99, Alejandro Cremaschi wrote:
>Hello. I'm sure this question is pretty basic...
>I've been using Eric Singer's seqPlayer object (thank you Eric!). I like
>the fact that you can tell the object where to start in the sequence.
>However, I can't figure out how to make the object adjust the tempo to
>follow the "set tempo" meta events stored in the sequence being
>played. Does anyone know how to solve this? I realize that the solution
>will involve adjusting the bang rate that this objects receives in the
>left inlet... but how do you obtain this rate from the meta events in the
>sequence? (seqPlayer does not output meta events)
>I noticed that the object 'seq' does follow the "set tempo" meta events
>from the sequence. But the problem with this object is that you can't tell
>it to start at a specific spot in the sequence.
>Thank you!


End of MAX Digest - 4 Nov 1999 to 5 Nov 1999 (#1999-319)