Subject: MAX Digest - 3 Nov 1999 to 4 Nov 1999 (#1999-318)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:00:00 -0500
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There are 9 messages totalling 431 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. That old rescopy() feeling
  2. OMS MIDI Xtra beta available
  3. usb interface problems
  4. Midi clock, MMC
  5. jMax
  6. tcin object (2)
  7. Audiomedia relationship problems
  8. Performance - Escape Velocity. 7/11/99.


Date:Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:00:07 -0500
From:Stephen Kay <sk@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: That old rescopy() feeling

>looking in the archive to find the source of my problem,
>which for completeness is:
>error: rescopy: failed to add CCOD -1, error -194
>and other such niceties at boot time, I am told to empty
>the trash. So I did and it didn't help. Any more clever ideas?
>I have this happening on several (well, two) machines. The
>only really different thing from a standard install is
>the I-Cube objects....

Probably not applicable, but one other thing that can cause
this to happen is not enough disk space available for MAX
to create its temporary file on launch.

Stephen Kay
The MegaMAX Collection of professional development objects:


Date:Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:59:04 +1030
From:Ross Bencina <rossb@AUDIOMULCH.COM>
Subject: OMS MIDI Xtra beta available


I hope this isn't too ot... I've just put a beta version of my MIDIio
Director X-Tra on the web at:

It uses OMS so it should be useful for connecting MAX with Director.

Best wishes,

Ross Bencina


Date:Thu, 4 Nov 1999 01:06:14 -0500
From:Louis Klepner <lou@EXPRESSIVEIMAGING.COM>
Subject: usb interface problems

I had a few problems with my b&w g3, MOTU usb midi interface, usb keyboard
and usb trackball. Occasionally one of the three usb devices would lock up.
I would leave my setup unattended during normal operation (as a show control
setup) and when I'd come back the keyboard or trackball wouldn't work. My
quick fix was to unplug and re-plug the device, and then it would work
again. Perhaps this problem was caused by an overload of USB to/from the
interface? The midi interface specifically states 12 Mbits, perhaps the g3
provides less? I'm not sure. Not too much of a problem in my specific
situation, but I could see this being a real problem in the future.



Date:Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:55:16 -0800
From:Erick Gallun <erick@EAR.PSYCH.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject: Midi clock, MMC

here's a stupid question, but it doesn't seem to be answered in the manual
or the help files...
I just bought an e-mu launchpad at a great discount off their website. it
gives me those faders I want so badly for MSP and that just don't come
standard on my powerbook. however, it also comes with capability to send
midi clock and midi machine control info...which I know nothing about and
MAX is no help. MAX recieves the MMC commands and the Sequencer control
commands, but no objects seem to exist to deal with it. Midi clock does
nothing, as near as I can tell. help? i could certainly write my own
objects to parse the foreign midi, but do I really have to?




Date:Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:23:00 -0800
From:David Zicarelli <zicarell@CYCLING74.COM>
Subject: Re: jMax

Louis Klepner <lou@EXPRESSIVEIMAGING.COM> writes:

>Can you comment at all on how IRCAM's jMax will relate to Max? Will
>there be hope of porting patches created in Max to JMax for use on PC's? Any
>information regarding the intergration of Max and JMax would be greatly
>appreciated. Thanks.

Shortly after MSP was released, I gave IRCAM an "FTS Compatibility
library" that implements most of the functions and limitations
of FTS in MSP. As far as I'm concerned, it's up to the person
writing the destination environment to ensure compatibility with
the source environment. If the developers of jMax wish to
provide a similar "MSP Compatibility Mode" it is certainly
an opportunity open to them. As part of a distribution agreement,
I provided the MSP source code to IRCAM, so that could be of
some help in this area.

David Z.


Date:Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:27:30 -0800
From:David Zicarelli <zicarell@CYCLING74.COM>

Subject: Re: tcin object

Melvyn Poore <mpoore@BIGFOOT.DE> writes:

>Where can I get information on the tcin object. It has no help, does not
>appear in the manual.

tcin is an object abandoned during the development of Max 3.0,
but for some reason I left it in the program and it was at
some point discovered by a monkey hired by a group of Max
enthusiasts that must have typed all possible combinations of object
names into an object box. So, given that it is not supposed to exist
and may not really work, I am not going to encourage anyone to use it.

It is however, very similar to the xtcin object written by
Steve Ellison. I believe there is a FAT version of that object around
somewhere, maybe the IRCAM FTP server?

David Z.


Date:Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:21:30 +0100
From:heiniger <W.Heiniger@UNIBAS.CH>
Subject: Audiomedia relationship problems

D.Z wrote:

>I think I finally figured out that this guy was trying to run
>Protools (DAE) and MSP at the same time. Error -6011 means the......

this would not be the problem in my case: I'm not having a pro tools even in
the same room
still :
just installed Max, installed Card
(digiextension seems to startupo ok, I even get this specific terrible
crackle in audiooutput of cards)
no digislots

>Uh, I answered within about an hour of getting this guy's
>email. It bounced.

ups, bouced ? beats me why....

>never remember to keep trying
>and then people hate you.

naaa, but exchanging e-mails with companies these days is a strange task,
everytime they don't answer it could as well be that they are sold or gone


Date:Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:04:00 +1100
From:Garth Paine <garth@ACTIVATEDSPACE.COM.AU>
Subject: Performance - Escape Velocity. 7/11/99.

Performance Announcement

One night only telematic performance. I apologies for multiple postings.


>company in space and dLux media arts present

>escape velocity
9Nov19997:45PM(one night only)
>150 Princes Street,
>North Carlton,
>Melbourne, Victoria,
>Australia 3054.
>tickets: $7. no concession.
>tel: +61 (0)3 9347 2860
>email: < >
>43-51 Cowper Wharf Rd.,
>Sydney, NSW,
>tickets: $10. / $8. / $6. dLux and Artspace members
>tel: +61 (0)2 9380 4255
>email: < >
>The performance is part of
>futureScreen 99
>AvAtArs | phantom agents
>identities + role play in web worlds
>symposium online performances
>featuring inter/national artists and theorists
>Two solo dancers - Hellen Sky in Sydney, Louise Taube in Melbourne - are
>joined through ISDN link. Their bodies merge in a virtual fourth dimension
>which is projected onto large screens in both locations.
>Escape Velocity is a unique amalgam of choreography, visual imagery, sound
>and real time video interaction. The dancers are 'actual avatars'; their
>performance questions the body's relationship to physical and virtual
>corporeality, technology and gravity. Escape Velocity has featured at
>IDAT 99 (International Dance and Technology), Arizona (linked to Deakin
>University, Melbourne), and SIGGRAPH 98, Florida (linked to Melbourne Town
>Hall for MAP 98, Movement and Performance festival); and Downloading
>Downunder (The Netherlands).
Hellen Sky
>choreography, performance
Hellen Sky, Louise Taube
>video, visual composition
John McCormick
>sound composition
Garth Paine
>camera, production
Kelli Dipple, Luke Pither

>lightingNik Pajanti
Jamie McLaren
>Escape Velocity was winner of the Green Room Awards in 1998 for
>'Outstanding Creativity in Performance'.
>After the performance audiences are invited to stay for an informal
>televideo talk about 'avatars', with John McCormick (CiS, co-director) in
>Melbourne, speaking with the audience in Sydney, and Alessio Cavallaro
>(dLux media arts, director).
>Founded in 1992 by Co-Directors Hellen Sky and John McCormick, Company in
>Space (CiS) is one of Australia's most innovative performance companies,
>utilising computer and communication technologies to create new pathways
>between performer and audience.
>In January 2000, CiS will perform 'Escape Velocity' in Artsrave, City of
>Hong Kong Festival 2000. In March 2000, CiS will open the New Moves, New
>Territories Dance Festival in Glasgow, Scotland with 'A Trial By Video'.
>CiS is supported by Arts Victoria and the Australia Council. Other
>associated sponsors include Deakin University, Interactive Information
>Institute RMIT and Global Vision Technologies.
>For this performance, CiS and dLux acknowledge the generous coorperation
>of Dancehouse, Centre For Moving Arts, Melbourne.
>For further information on company in space please contact;
>Hellen Sky and John McCormick, co-directors, CiS,
>po box 1495 saint killda vic 3182 australia
>tel and fax: +61 3 9534 6676
>You can listen to tracks from 'escape velocity', composed by Garth Paine,
>by visiting his web site on <
>futureScreen 99
>AvAtArs | phantom agents
>identities + role play in web worlds symposium online performances featuring
>inter/national artists and theorists
>Who do you want to be today?
>Your avatar can look anyway you want it to, up to the limitations of your
>equipment. If you're ugly, you can make your avatar beautiful. If you've
>just gotten out of bed, your avatar can still be wearing beautiful clothes
>and professionally applied makeup. You can look like a gorilla or a dragon
>or a giant talking penis in the Metaverse.
>Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash

>An avatar is your cyber alter-ego who represents 'you' to the other players
>in a virtual environment. Cyberspace is rapidly becoming populated by these
>roaming, often elaborately designed fantasy creatures.
>Avatars were popularised through sc-ifi/cyberpunk novels such as William
>Gibson's Neuromancer and Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash, and first appeared
>on the internet in text based meeting places known as MUDs (multi user
>domains). They can now represent you as three dimensional, fully animated,
>photo realistic, personalised characters in graphic based web worlds.
>Are we moving towards the kind of experience sci-fi writers have envisionsed
>for years? Are these graphic personifications the future in computer
>or just a passing fad? What are the implications for the workplace, for
>performance, or fiction, for filmmaking? How will the new Australian Net
>laws affect the usage of avatars? Who do you want to be today?
>For further information on dLux media arts and futureScreen 99
>please contact Alessio Cavallaro, director, dLux media arts
>po box 306 paddington nsw 2021 australia
>tel: +61 2 9380 4255 fax 61 2 9380 4311
>Have a great weekend and thank you for playing . . .
>CiS x.



Check out some of the tracks off my CD "Escape Velocity"
Activated Space
. Composer, Sound Designer, Installation Artist
.. Interactives Designer, Exhibition Consultant 61 3 95720133



Date:Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:50:42 +0100
Subject: Re: tcin object

Hi Melvyn,

I found this in an old Max lists posting by Roby Steinmetzer. He stated,
that tcin is a build-in object or linked to another external.
This is the help file he posted:

#N vpatcher 50 40 451 255;
#P comment 9 9 36 196622 tcin;
#P comment 9 29 212 196617 Receive MIDI Time Code \, output time in bits;
#P comment 100 110 100 196617 inlet sets MIDI port;
#P comment 100 75 134 196617 set output offset (default 0);
#P message 43 74 55 196617 offset 100;

#P comment 59 56 100 196617 set output resolution;
#P message 24 55 32 196617 res 4;
#P comment 84 179 117 196617 timecode value in bits;
#P number 24 178 56 9 0 0 0 3;
#P comment 113 149 153 196617 right outlet sends 1 when locked to timecode
\, 0
#P newex 24 108 73 196617 tcin;
#P toggle 87 149 21 0;
#P comment 252 36 121 196617 Optional argument for MIDI port or OMS device
like midiin \, rtin \, or sysexin. Second argument \, if present \, sets
output resolution (default value of 1 is every quarter frame);
#P comment 284 144 79 196617 * tcin was originally written by Steve Ellison;
#P connect 9 0 3 0;
#P connect 7 0 3 0;
#P connect 3 0 5 0;
#P connect 3 1 2 0;
#P pop;

Good luck,




End of MAX Digest - 3 Nov 1999 to 4 Nov 1999 (#1999-318)