Subject: MAX Digest - 26 Oct 1999 to 27 Oct 1999 (#1999-310)
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There are 9 messages totalling 416 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Question About Groove~ Behavior
  2. IBM 34 GB HD
  3. Pace & crime
  4. souping up a 7600
  5. MathLib
  6. Fwd: Ninth Annual Florida Electroacoustic Music Festival
  7. Waveforms(LF)
  8. Lpair bug
  9. dithering

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Date:Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:10:12 -0400
From:Nick Lloyd <nxlloyd@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Question About Groove~ Behavior

I've been experiencing some strange problems with a patch I wrote involving
the groove object. I've tried to create a patch which lets me listen through
the contents of a buffer (up to about 60 seconds long), while keeping track
of where I am in play back with a number box which updates according to the
following expr:

expr int($f2+$f1*($f3-$f2))

where inputs two and three are the loop points and input one is the index
coming out of the groove object. Simple enough. I'm running into trouble
when I load a buffer which is 60 seconds long. I'm using a similar expr
object to calculate where playback stopped, and then cueing playback from
that point in the buffer when a continue command is invoked:

expr $f3+$f2*($f4-$f3)

Same deal, except the first input is reserved for a bang which sends the
location in the buffer out to the groove object.

When I use this with buffers which are shorter than 60 seconds, everything
works smooth as silk. But when the buffers are sixty seconds or longer, I
run into problems. According to the Max window, I have plenty of free RAM
(40738 K) - and my processor isn't sweating either. Any ideas? I'd be happy
to send the patch around if anyone wants to take a look at it. As a caveat,
it's pretty messy when the window is unlocked.

Nick
--
Nick Lloyd
nxlloyd@ix.netcom.com
212-691-4362

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Date:Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:35:29 +0200
From:Jeffrey Burns <jeff@BERLIN.SNAFU.DE>
Subject: IBM 34 GB HD

Has anyone tried out the new IBM 34 GB harddisk yet? What software did you


use to format it?

Jeff Burns

http://www.snafu.de/~jeff

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Date:Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:47:46 +0100
From:Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green <cahen.sefton.green@WANADOO.FR>
Subject: Pace & crime

>
>PACE announced its USB Floppy Enabler 2.0 that allows PACE-protected
>software to run under OS 9 on new machines. I downloaded the updated
>enabler and tested it on a G3 Powerbook, and it seems to work--
>at least to enable PACE's own software (protected, of course, with
>PACE) to run under OS 9.


Thank you very much for this information.
Lucky if you one day plan to buy a new machine.
For the time beeing, at home, I can't offer anything better than a 7200.
But unfortunately, my last floppy key disk has decided that I had practiced
piracy and doesn't want to authorize anymore my external disk.
I only retreived files from my system disk after a crash using Norton.
Is that a crime ?

Couldn't we create an association of max users and try something against Pace ?

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Date:Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:14:10 -0400
From:David Crandall <dcrand1@GL.UMBC.EDU>
Subject: souping up a 7600

I just made a tentative executive decision to wait for the faster bus
before buying a new Mac, which means turning my 7600/132 into a
Frankenstein of new technology. NewerTech G3 goes without saying, but
what I don't know about is putting in a firewire card/drive, using,
hopefully the Sony analog --> firewire box for I/O. (btw, thanks for the
replies about locating that)

Anybody using such a setup for MAX/MSP/movie objects/SuperCollider? or is
this possible? An *up-to-date* web site that talks about moving AV data
through firewire would be helpful; does firewire show up in sound manager
or what?

signed,

bemused in balto

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Date:Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:27:30 -0700
From:Jeff Rona <jrona@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: MathLib

> also - could someone using OS8.6 on a powerbook have a look in their
extensions
> folder and see if MathLib is there? I've always had it in my extensions sets,
> but now i have a new powerbook which came with 8.6 preinstalled, and i don't
> know if that extension hasn't been installed for some reason, or if it's been
> "rolled into" the OS. (I'm not sure what i'm talking about here!) the reason
i'm
> asking is that i've been having some problems with msp & 8.6, and i'm
wondering


> if the lack of the MathLib is making any difference (?)

No such extension here.

jr

-------------------
Be, Hear, Now
jrona@earthlink.net
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Date:Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:23:46 -0400
From:Christopher Murtagh <chris@MUSIC.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Fwd: Ninth Annual Florida Electroacoustic Music Festival

From: James Paul Sain <jsain@ufl.edu>
>
>Dear Colleagues:
>
>I know how one can get hyper-focused on teaching, composing, and the
>daily activities of life. Please accept my apologies for using
>bandwidth one more time in regards to the FEMF9. I just wanted to
>take this last opportunity to encourage all of you to make your
>submissions to the 9th Annual Florida Electroacoustic Music Festival.
>Deadline for submission is this coming Saturday, Oct. 30, 1999 (so
>long as it arrives prior to Nov. 5th it will be considered). There's
>still time to put that masterpiece in the mail. I look forward to
>hearing your works. The boxes of submission are beginning to overtake
>my office (my students have had to dig me out several times this past
>week)...the more the merrier! This year's festival is shaping up to
>be the best ever!
>
>Best Regards,
>Jim
>
>**************
>
>Ninth Annual Florida Electroacoustic Music Festival
>April 6-8, 2000
>University of Florida
>
>Composer-in-Residence, Barry Truax
>
>Now in its ninth year, the Florida Electroacoustic Music Festival has
>featured an international variety of contemporary electroacoustic art
>music. Past composers-in-residence have included internationally
>renowned composers such as Hubert S. Howe, Jr., Cort Lippe, Gary
>Nelson, Jon Appleton, Joel Chadabe, and Larry Austin.
>
>
>Call for Works
>
>A call for electroacoustic art music works at fit into the following
>categories:
>
>
works for tape alone
>
- special interest in "soundscape" works (though not limited to)
>
- octophonic works (see formats available)
>
>
works for tape and instrumental solo
>
- special interest in works including flute,
>
saxophone, horn, trombone, string bass, piano, and percussion
>
>
works for tape and baritone voice
>
works utilizing interactive applications


>- Opcode's Max/Cycling '74's Msp
>
- IRCAM MAX/FTS (SGI O2 platform)
>
>
media formats supported: CD, DAT, Tascam DA-88/38, 1/4"
>1/2-track, and 1/4" 4-track
>
>Deadline for the receipt of submitted work(s) is: October 30, 1999
>
>All works that include live performance need to be accompanied by a
>tape of a performance or high quality realization. All submissions
>must include performance materials in the available media listed
>above, performance parts and/or score, brief biography (75-100
>words), program notes (concise), and contact information sheet.
>Incomplete submissions will not be reviewed. Please note if the
>composer can provide a performer. Contact information sheet must
>include a phone number, address, and if available email address, www
>site, and fax number. A self-addressed stamped envelope (SASE) is
>required for the return of all materials (or international postal
>response return coupons). Tapes of works for performance and those
>not accompanied by an SASE will become the property of the Florida
>Electroacoustic Music Studio.
>
>All composers selected for performance are required to attend the
>festival; this is to provide a sense of community to the festival.
>There are no travel grants available directly from the festival.
>Should a composer be unable to attend the festival their work will
>not be presented.
>
>**************
>
>Call for Papers/Presentations
>
>A call for papers, studio reports, and lecture/demonstrations dealing
>with all aspects of electroacoustic music, computer music, digital
>music, acoustics, psychoacoustics, and related topics. Submissions
>from all current areas of electroacoustic music research and historic
>perspectives are encouraged. Special interest is given to
>submissions dealing with acoustic ecology, interactive
>composition/synthesis, algorithmic composition, new musical
>interfaces, and new techniques in wavelet/quantum synthesis.
>
>Deadline for the receipt of submitted materials is: October 30, 1999
>
>Three copies of the completed paper, studio report, or
>lecture/demonstration abstract music be accompanied by a brief
>biography of 75-100 words (abstract and biography should be promptly
>available on 3.5" floppy or via electronic transmission upon
>selection). All papers submitted will become part of the Florida
>Electroacoustic Music Studio Library.
>
>SEND SUBMISSION OR INQUIRES TO:
>
>
Dr. James Paul Sain, FEMS Director
>
University of Florida School of Music
>
P.O. Box 117900/130 Music Bldg.
>
Gainesville, FL32611-7900
>
(352) 392-0223 ext. 240/voice
>
(352) 392-0461/fax
>
fems@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu
>
>**************
>
>For more information on the electroacoustic music program at the
>University of Florida and the Florida Electroacoustic Music Program
>(http://emu.music.ufl.edu/)
>
>The University of Florida is located in the North Central Florida


>city of Gainesville. Gainesville is served by Delta Airlines (via
>American Southeast Airlines), USAir Express, and the Continental
>Airlines connector. The city is approximately 2.5 hours drive by car
>from Jacksonville, Tallahassee, Orlando, and Tampa, Florida. Airport
>shuttle service can be provided by the festival hotel for
>transportation from/to the Gainesville Regional Airport but not to
>other are airports.
>
>Notification of selection will be made around November 20, 1999.
>
>Current information on FEMF9 can be found at:
>http://emu.music.ufl.edu/femf/emufest9.html
>
>**************
>________________________________________________________________________
>Dr. James Paul Sain, Assoc. Prof. |
jsain@ufl.edu
>Composition, Theory and Technology|http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu/~jsain
>
Area Head|(352)392-0223 ext 240 office
>Director of Electroacoustic Music |
(352)392-0461 fax
>Univ. of Florida School of Music
| Florida Electroacoustic Music Studio
>130 Music Bldg./P.O. Box 117900
|http://emu.music.ufl.edu
>Gainesville, FL
32611-7900 USA|(352)392-0223 ext 305 studio vmail
>________________________________________________________________________
>
Banging your head against a wall utilized 150 calories daily
>________________________________________________________________________
>

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Date:Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:22:19 -0700
From:Peter Elsea <elsea@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject: Waveforms(LF)

I got a request for an example patcher, so here it is:

max v2;
#N vpatcher 50 40 582 573;
#P number 119 90 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P newex 145 185 66 196617 switch 4;
#P newex 145 208 75 196617 expr 100 - $i1;
#P number 159 81 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P newex 212 151 163 196617 expr $i1 + $i2 * (2 * (50 - $i1));
#P newex 173 152 30 196617 * 50;
#P newex 173 117 28 196617 > 49;
#P message 90 22 27 196617 stop;
#P message 53 263 31 196617 clear;
#P newex 379 101 63 196617 * 0.062831;
#P message 144 26 65 196617 0 \, 100 4000;
#P newex 110 45 40 196617 line;
#P newex 110 262 75 196617 prepend LineTo;
#P newex 110 233 45 196617 pack 0 0;
#P flonum 379 125 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P newex 379 151 114 196617 expr (100. * sin($f1));
#P message 190 262 79 196617 MoveTo \$1 100;
#P user LCD 110 288 271 222;
#P comment 64 107 30 196617 0 off;
#P comment 65 123 40 196617 1 ramp;
#P comment 64 140 49 196617 2 square;
#P comment 64 158 52 196617 3 triangle;
#P comment 64 178 35 196617 4 sine;
#P comment 252 181 43 196617 triangle;
#P comment 394 179 26 196617 sine;
#P comment 223 118 55 196617 <-- square;
#P comment 198 81 91 196617 Line output (ramp);
#P comment 227 210 100 196617 offset for display;
#P comment 222 27 100 196617 <--click to start;
#P comment 61 91 52 196617 choose->;


#P fasten 18 1 21 0 145 68 58 68;
#P connect 22 0 18 0;
#P connect 19 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 17 0;
#P connect 17 0 12 0;
#P connect 13 0 12 0;
#P connect 21 0 12 0;
#P fasten 18 1 19 0 145 72 218 72 218 23 149 23;
#P connect 29 0 28 0;
#P connect 28 0 27 0;
#P connect 27 0 16 1;
#P fasten 18 0 26 0 115 77 164 77;
#P connect 26 0 28 1;
#P fasten 26 0 23 0 164 106 178 106;
#P connect 23 0 24 0;
#P connect 24 0 28 2;
#P fasten 25 0 28 3 217 178 192 178;
#P connect 16 0 13 0;
#P fasten 14 0 28 4 384 178 206 178;
#P fasten 26 0 25 0 164 106 217 106;
#P fasten 23 0 25 1 178 142 370 142;
#P fasten 26 0 20 0 164 98 384 98;
#P connect 20 0 15 0;
#P connect 15 0 14 0;
#P pop;


Peter Elsea
Director, Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz
http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/index.html
elsea@cats.ucsc.edu

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Date:Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:35:10 -0700
From:Peter Elsea <elsea@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject: Lpair bug

>I've discovered what seem to be a couple of bugs in the
>Lpair object... occasionally Lpair will spit out a "1"
> Very rarely Lpair seems to get overloaded and will cease functioning with
>an error
>message that says something like "inappropriate list member".
>
A fixed version of Lpair is now available at
ftp://arts.ucsc.edu/pub/ems/lobjects/beta
A lot of the Lobjects will respond "inappropriate list member" when they
encounter a symbol or any undefined data. I guess it shouldn't matter to
Lpair, so it will now pass symbols. If it was doing this when there are no
symbols around, the above fix should have gotten it.


>While I'm on the subject I should give props...
Thanks for your kind words. We wouldn't be able to do it without the help
of all the folks who try things out and good naturedly report bugs.

Peter Elsea
Director, Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz
http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/index.html
elsea@cats.ucsc.edu

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Date:Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:57:46 -0400


From:Neal Farwell <nfarwell@FAS.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject: dithering

Dear David Z. et al -

When MSP turns its internal floating point representation into 16-bit
integers for Sound Manager, does it do any dithering or noise shaping?

If not, does anyone have a good external or patcher for this?

Many thanks,
Neal


Johnny deKam - thanks for the "deflutter" suggestion, I'll try it out.

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