Subject: MAX Digest - 25 Oct 1999 to 26 Oct 1999 (#1999-309)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:00:21 -0400
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There are 8 messages totalling 325 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. continuous rotary control
  2. new PACE USB floppy enabler (2)
  3. DVMC-DA1
  4. USB MIDI Converters
  5. Lpair Lproblems?
  6. pahr-lay voo frahn-say???
  7. waveforms (LF)

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Date:Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:50:53 +0100
From:david stevens <david@RESONANT.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: continuous rotary control

hi all

does anyone know (or has anyone programmed) a continuous rotary control - ie
like the dialobject, but without the "gap" between the highest & lowest
values. i'm making a 4 channel panner.

also - could someone using OS8.6 on a powerbook have a look in their extensions
folder and see if MathLib is there? I've always had it in my extensions sets,
but now i have a new powerbook which came with 8.6 preinstalled, and i don't
know if that extension hasn't been installed for some reason, or if it's been
"rolled into" the OS. (I'm not sure what i'm talking about here!) the reason i'm
asking is that i've been having some problems with msp & 8.6, and i'm wondering
if the lack of the MathLib is making any difference (?)

thanks

david

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Date:Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:13:23 -0700
From:David Zicarelli <zicarell@CYCLING74.COM>
Subject: new PACE USB floppy enabler

PACE announced its USB Floppy Enabler 2.0 that allows PACE-protected
software to run under OS 9 on new machines. I downloaded the updated
enabler and tested it on a G3 Powerbook, and it seems to work--
at least to enable PACE's own software (protected, of course, with
PACE) to run under OS 9.

You can get the enabler at http://www.paceap.com/iesite/usb_enabler.html
or if you can't remember that, just go to the Cycling '74 home
page and click on the link.

PACE still has not released the new version of their copy protection
software that fixes the OS 9 problem so this INIT is the answer for
the moment.

David Z.

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Date:Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:25:05 -0700
From:Matt Biederman <mbiederman@SFMOMA.ORG>
Subject: Re: DVMC-DA1

The DVMC DA-1 isn't available here in the US. You can find people here in
the US that will ship you one from Japan. I think last time I checked they
were going for about $360. Wired Inc. (not to be confused with the
magazine) will be releasing a box (near december last I heard) that will
have svideo in/out and 3 firewire port + the ability to add a TV tuner.....

matt

-----Original Message-----

Date:Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:27:33 -0400
From:David Crandall <dcrand1@GL.UMBC.EDU>
Subject: analog - DV converters (desktop)

Just wondering if anyone has seen Sony's DVMC-DA1 Media Converter
(analog-firewire & back) available for sale in the US. I had seen an
announcement that it was being sold in Japan, but hadn't seen it here.

dc

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Date:Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:37:49 +0100
From:david stevens <david@RESONANT.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: USB MIDI Converters

hi Jeff,

not a lot of help for your current setup, but i just bought one of the ne=
w MOTU
Fastlane usb/midi interfaces to go with my new powerbook, and after a bit=
of
fiddling around, i got it to work ok. they're fairly cheap (around =A380 =
in the
UK). i've also got the Keyspan, but i hadn't realised that it was suppos=
edly
midi compatible - however, the manual does say that it only works with Fr=
eemidi,
so i think you may be out of luck.
=

(if you do get a FastLane, it seems to be essential to create your new OM=
S
Studio setup with devices attached to the Fastlane and powered up - at le=
ast
that's what eventually worked for me).

david

> From:Jeff Ridenour <jridenou@KONCON.NL>

> i just last week purchased a new keyspan serial adapter, which is suppo=
sed
> to do midi, which i was hoping to use with my old opcode translator II
> serial midi interface. the problem is that it seems that there have on=
ly
> been drivers made to use it with freemidi from MOTU. and of course even=

> though OMS is emulated in FREEMIDI, there are only drivers in FREEMIDI =
for
> MOTU interfaces. OMS does not seem to recognize the ports, and i have=


> doubts that ill be seeing support from opcode anytime for that.

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Date:Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:19:33 -0700
From:Charles Lyons <charleslyons@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Lpair Lproblems?

I've discovered what seem to be a couple of bugs in the superfantastic
Lpair object. The first is demonstrated by the attached patcher; in theory
it should run until manually stopped, but occasionally Lpair will spit out
a "1" instead of a "127" and will stop the metro on its own - which
shouldn't be happening. Dunno if it matters, but I'm running Max 3.5.9-6 on
a 7100/G3 300 (Newer). I think the Lpair I have is the most recent; it's
dated Sat 16 Aug 1997.

The other bug I haven't been able to produce consistently. Very rarely
Lpair seems to get overloaded and will cease functioning with an error
message that says something like "inappropriate list member". It seems to
happen when switching rapidly between multiple-item and single-item "lists"
(I know, not technically a list...)

I'm probably abusing this poor object well beyond its intended usage and
violating several Federal decency laws as well (that single-item list
thing), but Lpair happens to be perfect for some sequence generating
patchers I'm building and if I can't get it to work I may be in trouble.
Any thoughts?

While I'm on the subject I should give props to Peter Elsea, Stephen Kay,
and all the other contributors of third-party externals out there. I use
optimized gates and Lobjects extensively - thanks, guys.


Charles.


max v2;
#N vpatcher 301 167 753 508;
#P newex 203 300 54 196617 print Oops;
#P message 203 283 40 196617 ERROR!;
#P message 141 32 14 196617 0;
#P toggle 83 54 15 0;
#P newex 203 254 30 196617 sel 1;
#P newex 203 235 29 196617 == 1;
#P newex 147 129 40 196617 sel 0 1;
#P newex 147 110 35 196617 decide;
#P button 186 159 15 0;
#P newex 83 71 55 196617 metro 100;
#P newex 107 235 39 196617 print Y;
#P button 808 140 15 0;
#P message 808 157 40 196617 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;
#P newex 284 235 39 196617 print X;
#P newex 93 272 68 196617 print Product;
#P newex 93 253 103 196617 *;
#P newex 83 176 25 196617 iter;
#P message 83 127 57 196617 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1;
#P message 186 177 215 196617 127 127 127 127 127 127 127 127 127 127;
#P button 147 158 15 0;
#P newex 147 176 27 196617 127;
#P newex 93 204 103 196617 Lpair;
#P connect 19 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 12 0;
#P connect 12 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 0 0;
#P connect 0 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 7 0;


#P connect 0 0 11 0;
#P fasten 17 0 19 0 220 280 266 269 201 24;
#P connect 12 0 14 0;
#P connect 14 0 15 0;
#P connect 15 0 2 0;
#P connect 2 0 1 0;
#P connect 15 1 13 0;
#P connect 13 0 3 0;
#P connect 1 0 0 1;
#P connect 3 0 0 1;
#P connect 0 1 6 1;
#P connect 0 1 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 17 0;
#P connect 17 0 20 0;
#P connect 20 0 21 0;
#P connect 0 1 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 9 0;
#P pop;

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Date:Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:48:11 -0400
From:John Lamar <jlamar@BERKLEE.EDU>
Subject: Re: new PACE USB floppy enabler

on 10/25/99 5:13 PM, David Zicarelliwrote:

> PACE announced its USB Floppy Enabler 2.0 that allows PACE-protected
> software to run under OS 9 on new machines. I downloaded the updated
> enabler and tested it on a G3 Powerbook, and it seems to work--
> at least to enable PACE's own software (protected, of course, with
> PACE) to run under OS 9.
>
> You can get the enabler at http://www.paceap.com/iesite/usb_enabler.html
> or if you can't remember that, just go to the Cycling '74 home
> page and click on the link.
>
> PACE still has not released the new version of their copy protection
> software that fixes the OS 9 problem so this INIT is the answer for
> the moment.

I'm running the new enabler on a B/W Mac under OS 9 and I can report that
MAX/MSP, SuperCollider, and Peak all run successfully with the enabler.


John
-----------------------------
John Lamar
Computer Systems Coordinator
Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
617-747-2484
jlamar@berklee.edu

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Date:Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:28:59 -0400
From:Alex Burton <burton-raw@ZEEP.COM>
Subject: pahr-lay voo frahn-say???

At 12:00 AM -0400 10/15/99, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>Date:Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:17:19 -0700
>From:
dudas <dudas@CNMAT.BERKELEY.EDU>
>Subject: pahr-lay voo frahn-say???

[...]


>Did anyone in France notice the amusing name of the new Russian prime
>minister?! I guess you guys put the letter "e" at the end to make the
>pronunciation a bit less embarassing, but then it turns into the Quebecois
>national dish - french fries with gravy.

Actually, it's french fries with gravy and melted cheese.

Alex.

>
>Bon appetit.
>
>-Xoaz

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Date:Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:17:03 -0700
From:Peter Elsea <elsea@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject: waveforms (LF)

>Are there any objects out there that simulate different kinds of
>waveforms (sine, square, saw, triangle etc.) in a line-like/looping-like
>manner?
>
>I want to use said waveforms as control signals. (fx. panning).

Line is the basic LFO type object. If you take the bang output to a message
of [0, 100 1000] that is fed back to line, you will get a sawtooth with an
amplitude of 100 and frequency of 1hz. (It's not in the manual, but line
will respond to the stop command when you want to shut it down.)

To convert this to a square, feed it through a [> 49], which will give you
0 s or 1s. Multipy to get the final amplitude you need. Changing the
argument in the greaterthan will change the duty cycle.

With these two signals, you can create a triangle. Use [expr $i1 + $i2 * (2
* (50 - $i1))].
connect the output of the line to $i1 and the output of the greaterthan to $i2.

The expr object [expr sin($f1)] can give you a sine curve- The input should
vary between 0 and 6.28 (sin() works in radians). If you multiply the
output of the above line by 0.0628 you will get a nice curve between 1 and
-1. Multiply to get the ampltude you want.

As with all Max methods, there's more than one way. You can use metro
connected to a counter instead of line, for instance. The diference is that
line will produce a number every 20 ms (default) repeating numbers on slow
rise times. Counter will give each number in its series only once. Line
will skip numbers at high rates, whereas counter has a top speed for a
given amplitude.

Peter Elsea
Director, Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz
http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/index.html
elsea@cats.ucsc.edu

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