Subject: MAX Digest - 10 Oct 1999 to 12 Oct 1999 - Special issue (#1999-296)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:02:36 -0400
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There are 19 messages totalling 712 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. The Brain People on MTV
  2. QKSend (2)
  3. Opcode still alive? / Vision DSP 4.5.1 authorization
  4. Opcode still alive?
  5. New Spectral MSP Objects
  6. Fear and Loathing on Middlefield Ave (3)
  7. Opcode ok?
  8. Touch Sensors
  9. Chinese power for all the toys
  10. sxformat
  11. VXpocket 1/2 price
  12. Please help!!
  13. Menu+french=supercrash?
  14. Multiband res filter
  15. <No subject given>
  16. inexpensive midi triggers and sensors


Date:Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:39:29 -0400
From:Tommy DOG <mrsvomit@TOMMYDOG.COM>
Subject: The Brain People on MTV

Tommy DOG takes The Brain People all the way to the heart of pop music

The Brain People's "Alien Grooves" hit the air waves this week in a very
appropriate way.

"The underground" comes up to the surface for airtime:

True Life: I'm a Hacker
Wednesday, October 13th at
10 p.m. (ET)/ 11 p.m. (CT)

"True Life: I'm a Hacker goes to the heart of this international issue and
explores how hackers communicate with one another and where they learn the
tricks of the trade".

-Quote taken from MTV Web site

Sound Designs by Tommy DOG, music by The Brain People.

Includes a track from The Buzz More Crave plus a lot of new stuff to sink your
ears into. So get out your VCRs and tape the thing, you don't want to miss
this pow wow.

"Death To The Dumb, Curses Upon The Heads Of The Weird"

Rev. Tommy DOG: Subverter technology, collector of sound




Three humans vs. an army of mutant devices


Date:Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:04:52 +0200
From:Jeffrey Burns <jeff@BERLIN.SNAFU.DE>
Subject: QKSend

Hi Peter Castine,

Just pulled out some old patches and suddenly discovered that your QKSend
external doesn't work any more. Could it be that there it an incompatiblity
with either System 8.6 or QK 4.0? When trying to send a command, I get
* error: QKShortcut couldn't send Apple Event (-609)
in the Max window.


Jeff Burns


Date:Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:52:19 -0700
From:David Zicarelli <zicarell@CYCLING74.COM>
Subject: Re: Opcode still alive? / Vision DSP 4.5.1 authorization

Daniel Serrini <dserrini@MINDSPRING.COM> writes:

>I just received my copy of Vision 4.5.1 from Opcode but I cannot
>permanently authorize it.
>My system is a B&W G3 350/system 8.6 with the Imation Superdisk. The only
>software on it is Vision DSP, OMS and Galaxy.

What, no copy of Max? :)

My understanding is that one of the terminated Opcode employees
has, on his own time, resolved the copy protection issue and
you should, somehow, be able to get a new version that will
authorize. I don't know anything beyond that.

David Z.


Date:Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:52:03 -0400
From:jmw <evening@ULSTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Opcode still alive?

Despite their release of 4.5.1 they sure seem dead.
I've been waiting for 2.5 weeks for a challenge response for 3.5.9.
Multiple phone calls & email with no response....




Date:Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:16:26 EDT
From:Eric Lyon <Eric.Lyon@DARTMOUTH.EDU>
Subject: New Spectral MSP Objects


I would like to announce the availability of FFTease, a package of freeware
Max/MSP objects designed for signal processing in the frequency domain. This
package includes objects for employing phase vocoding, noise reduction, cross
synthesis, and other more unusual methods.

FFTease is available for download from the following locations:

(US site)

(Japan site)

FFTease is the result of a collaboration between Eric Lyon and Christopher
Penrose. We are both enthusiastic about the realtime application of these
spectral methods and hope some of you will share that enthusiasm.


Date:Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:27:11 -0700
From:Peter Elsea <elsea@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject: Fear and Loathing on Middlefield Ave

It's beginning to look like the worst of the rumors about Opcode are true.
The one I am hearing from several sources goes like this.

Begin rumor<< As happens so often in this industry, Gibson had purchased
Opcode to get into this high tech thing, and Opcode had submitted in order
to get a consistent cash flow. Gibson wanted dsp boxes for the guitar
market--- The Opcode engineers have tried to follow their true calling
instead, but the powers at Gibson eventually lost patience and cut off
funding. Arguments and lawsuits ensued, and last week Gibson invoked the
final solution and fired nearly everybody. The way I hear it,little
remains except some left-over inventory of less popular products (probably
inculding Max), suppliers refusing to ship unpaid for popular products, and
a building lease. The intellectual rights involved will probably be tied up
for a long time. Current employees seem to be 1 salesman, 1 shipping clerk,
and 1 tech support.
>>end rumor

Someone commented this weekend on the "motility" of the engineering job
market--motility as a medical term refers to the action of material being
pushed through the alimentary canal. I'm sure that's how the opcode crew
feels these days.
Peter Elsea
Director, Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz


Date:Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:45:13 -0000
From:Nick Rothwell <nick@CASSIEL.COM>
Subject: Re: Opcode ok?

> Regardless of Opcode's fortunes, I'll do what I can to keep Max
> a viable product.

It's great to hear it.

> It's too late to do anything else with my life.

I'll keep using MAX as the fundamental keystone of all my artistic and
cultural projects. It's too late to do anything else with *my* life...

(One day I should upgrade from MAX 3.0, I guess, but the neverending
succession of PACE fiascos keeps putting me off...)


Nick Limited
systems - composition - installation - performance


Date:Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:31:34 +0200
From:Øyvind Brandtsegg <obrandts@ONLINE.NO>
Subject: Re: Touch Sensors

You are probably looking for piezoelectric film,
this is sold both as small pre-cut pieces and in large sheets.
I just can't seem to find the proper web address at this time, but there are
several companies making this sort of stuff.
Try a web search on "piezo-electric film" something like "pressure sensing
Another good place to start is Axel Mulder's link page:

I think Infusion Systems are still using the films from Honeywell, but the web
page for Honeywell Technologies doesn't seem to come up on my browser.

Hope this was of some help.
Oeyvind Brandtsegg

eva sjuve wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm looking for some touch sensors, to put in a costume, to work with MAX.
> I'm building the whole thing with microcontrollers, and it's going to be no
> wires, so I-Cube is not an option. Do anybody know where to find this kind
> of sensors? Flat and small ones?
> Eva Sjuve
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at


Date:Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:56:40 -0400
From:Stephen Kay <sk@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Chinese power for all the toys

>Their advice, and mine from other electronic forays around
>China and in other parts of Asia is: be prepared for anything.
>Attempt to make your setup as flexible as possible in terms
>of voltages and AC cycle rates and all the rest of it because

>you just don't know what might happen.The guys I know who are
>working in the studios there don't go anywhere without all their
>UPSs and power protection and metering gear,that may sound a bit extreme=
>but most of you will be amazed at how many different kinds of sockets
>there really are,and I imagine you're about to meet most of them.

This is entirely true, but perhaps doesn't go far enough.

I've done several "tours" around China and Southeast Asia as
a product demonstrator for KORG. As mentioned above, the
number of sockets available is unbelievable, and what's worse,
even in the same location they will be using multiple different
types of sockets. In China, expect everything to be of very poor
and questionable quality, including the electricity. Expect
power strips (when they can be found) to be frayed, have busted
outlets, broken pins, etc. It's not uncommon to see a mess of
AC cabling that includes multiple types of adaptors, power
strips with one type of outlet going into an adaptor into a
power strip with other kinds of outlets. I've had power
brownouts during gigs where my fx devices change programs by
themselves, or stop working...

When I go to China, I try to take every kind of adaptor and
power strip I can find. =

Probably a UPC *is* a great way to go... =

One other important piece of advice:if you do happen to take
any 120v gear over there, with the idea of using a converter
SKULL & CROSSBONES, ETC. Better yet, keep it in a backpack
strapped to your body.

I've had several pieces of 120v gear blown up by "helpful"
local setup assistants, even though I had my own 220 v converters
to use with them. Having to finish a tour with some bogus
BrandX reverb, when you had all sorts of neat, nifty, midified
effects programmed into some 120v FX device that someone
blew up on the second date is not my idea of fun.

Stephen Kay


Date:Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:57:52 -0700
From:Jeff Rona <jrona@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: sxformat

A strange thing came up working with sxformat. I wanted to send a small
string of sysex with one changable byte. I tried to pattern it directly from
an example in the manual. So I tried the following:

sxformat 240 00 32 51 01 16 113 64 17 $i1 247

where $i1 is the first inlet. I got an error message each time that it was
an illegal expression, or something like that.

The only way I got it to work was to do it as an expression like this:

sxformat 240 00 32 51 01 16 113 64 17 / is $i1 / 247

putting it between slashes. According to the help file and the docs, this

should not be necessary. Anyone else find this problem?

Be, Hear, Now


Date:Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:29:34 -0400
From:deKam <johnny@NODE.NET>
Subject: VXpocket 1/2 price

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Date:Tue, 12 Oct 1999 00:48:46 -0400
From:David Bitterman <Dbit@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Subject: Re: Please help!!

I know I sound like a total newbie, but I'm trying to resolve a
couple core issues. I'm using max integrated into a setup where Cubase
VST has provided
a central docking station for all my signals, midi and audio. As far as
I can tell the "timein" object doesn't work because cubase only utilizes

OMS in and out rather than the OMS time manager functions for
synchronizing a central (OMS) clock. I get the bit rate output of the
"tcin" device, and when divided by 24 I get a clock that synchronizes to

the seconds on my cubase transport. What's more interesting is that if
Cubase is set to loop mode between point 0.0 and anything the max output

accuarately loops. I appologize if this all sounds basic but I'm a

musician, not in academics or programming, and I need a way to convert
this data into various breakdowns of musical signiture ie. bars and
beats, quarter, eighth, and sixteenth notes, ect...
I've seen various articles in the archive, but none that difinitively
communicate to me how to create an overall timing environment in max
that both relates to musical function and creates a solid
inter-application bond.

Any help would be greatly appreciated including a point in the right

thank you-


Date:Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:45:52 +0100
From:Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green <>
Subject: Menu+french=supercrash?

This time it happened.
I chrashed my mac internal hard disk.
I was working on max trying to reopen a menu containing french text with é
& è & à & ê when a fuzzy freeze happend.
Norton neither other tools couldn't repare.
It's at the shop.

I thought that theses buggs with menu where solved.
Apparently not.
Unless it's pure hasard, which I can't beleive.
Fortunaltely max was on the external disk but all my recent texts are lost.

What happens with those menus ?
Am I not supose to write in french ?

Roland Cahen


Date:Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:50:31 +0100
From:Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green <>
Subject: Multiband res filter

I'm trying to make a DTMF decoder in MSP.
Has someone got an idea how I can make a easy multiband resonnant filter
which would detect the presence or not of pairs of frequencies.
(lots of reson~ does work but it's heavy and dificult to adjust)

Roland Cahen


Date:Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:32:15 MDT
From:"~ ~" <midiw@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: <No subject given>

Welcome on board this sinking boat. Just like the big boat they made a movie
about not too long ago.

From: Daniel Serrini <dserrini@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Opcode still alive? / Vision DSP 4.5.1 authorization

I just received my copy of Vision 4.5.1 from Opcode but I cannot
permanently authorize it.

My system is a B&W G3 350/system 8.6 with the Imation Superdisk. The only
software on it is Vision DSP, OMS and Galaxy.

I installed the latest version of the superdisk driver (2.0a) and the
floppy enabler from Pace that came with Vision, but every time I launch
Vision it asks me to put the key disk in or for a challenge response code.
Meanwhile, I have 27 days left before the software expires.

I tried calling Opcode several time but their phones are on an automated
voice service and no one has returned my calls.

Does anyone know what I can do to get this software permanatly authorized
or did I just by a $100.00 wine glass coster?

I've heard rumor's all over the place that Opcode is closing up shop. This
was posted at a local synth retailers website here in Phoenix on 10/3/99:

"We heard rumors today that Opcode may have closed their doors. Phone calls
to Opcode have met with voicemails only (no operator assistance). We do not
know the circumstances of their closure or if/when they will re-organize.
Another part of the rumor is that virtually all staff have been terminated.
When trying to reach our Opcode rep, his answering machine referred Opcode
questions to the company phone number." - Synthony Music

Any information will be greatly appreciated.



Get Your Private, Free Email at


Date:Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:58:26 -0400
From:David Crandall <dcrand1@GL.UMBC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Fear and Loathing on Middlefield Ave

Wow, this is ringing a bell... anybody else remember the rumors from way
back when (about 12 years back) to the effect that Gibson also caused the
demise of the Southworth company? The (UNCONFIRMED) story went that
Gibson was contracted to build the legendary Jambox, produced substandard
product, and when sued, simply papered Southworth to death. Been a while
since I had an occasion to remember this, but if true, they are bad actors
indeed and haven't changed their MO much.

Once again proving that size does matter, in a very negative way....



Date:Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:45:40 +0200
From:Peter Castine <pcastine@PRZ.TU-BERLIN.DE>
Subject: Re: Fear and Loathing on Middlefield Ave

On around 11=AD10=AD1999 21:27, Peter Elsea said something like:

>Someone commented this weekend on the "motility" of the engineering job
>market--motility as a medical term refers to the action of material being
>pushed through the alimentary canal. I'm sure that's how the opcode crew

>feels these days.

C'est moi... I think (others may have written in a similar vain). I must
confess, in fact, to have been thinking more in reference to male
fertility tests at the time.

Depending upon one's take on this sort of thing, one may prefer either of
the interprations vastly over t'other. Take your pick. We had Woody
Allen's _Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Sex (*) But Were Afraid
to Ask_ on TV recently...

As the indicators mount, I admit that the situation looks grimmer than I
first thought. If the worst thing happens to Opcode, I hope David can get
the rights to Max. That would _not_ be the worst thing that could happen
to Max. Rather the reverse. Hope it's not the worst thing that could
happen to David. (We'll all admire you, even if you don't get rich.)



Dr. Peter Castine| I am very pleased to announce that the
4-15 Music & Technology| 26th International Computer Music Conference
| will take place in Berlin in the year 2000.
| We look forward to seeing you here!


Date:Tue, 12 Oct 1999 17:45:38 +0200
From:Peter Castine <pcastine@PRZ.TU-BERLIN.DE>
Subject: Re: QKSend

On around 11=AD10=AD1999 6:04, Jeffrey Burns said something like:

>Just pulled out some old patches and suddenly discovered that your QKSend
>external doesn't work any more. Could it be that there it an incompatiblit=
>with either System 8.6 or QK 4.0? When trying to send a command, I get
>* error: QKShortcut couldn't send Apple Event (-609)
>in the Max window.

I spoke with Jeff about this on the phone, but in case any one else is

Matt Wright first intimated to me that there were problems with QK 4.0
and QKSend; Jeff has now confirmed (after some considerable testing) that
the problem seems directly related to the new QuicKeys version. Both Matt
and Jeff have apparently downgraded their QuicKeys.

I don't have the latest QK to get to the bottom of this issue. And my
life is more determined by ICMC 2000 than by Max externals or anything
else right now, so unless there are some very big sticks or some very big
carrots, I'm afraid I'm just going to have to advise people to stick to
QK 3.5.2 or the likes. Sorry.

Funny that CE's on-line documentation doesn't make any remarks about a
change to their Apple Events stuff. But that's the only possible
explanation that's occured to my poor brain.

Wish I had better news...


Dr. Peter Castine| I am very pleased to announce that the
4-15 Music & Technology| 26th International Computer Music Conference
| will take place in Berlin in the year 2000.
| We look forward to seeing you here!


Date:Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:55:21 EDT
From:"please. Thank you very much." <Wiltz0023@AOL.COM>
Subject: inexpensive midi triggers and sensors

I am looking for inexpensive midi triggers. I know of infusion systems
I-cube but it is way to expensive for my project budget. I have heard Samson
makes an MIDI trigger for acoustic drums, though it did not show up on their
web site. I am also interested in MIDI triggering light sensors. Any
information about this is greatly appreciated. THANK YOU!!
Chris Willits


End of MAX Digest - 10 Oct 1999 to 12 Oct 1999 - Special issue (#1999-296)