Subject: MAX Digest - 4 Sep 1999 to 6 Sep 1999 (#1999-265)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 00:40:19 -0400
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Topics of the day:

  1. video and tv mirror
  2. startup sound (3)
  3. Intercepting MIDI
  4. Newbie question solved...
  5. Intercepting sequencer data
  6. help to disentangle?
  7. newbie question...
  8. enable $1


Date:Sat, 4 Sep 1999 20:17:35 -0400
From:Otto Henry <muhenry@EASTNET.EDUC.ECU.EDU>
Subject: video and tv mirror

Many thanks to those who wrote in several weeks ago
with information about TV mirror and videotaping
MAX graphics on the PPC . This is both a thank-you and a
report to those who might like to try it.

First of all, lacking 4 megabytes of video memory
on the video card supplied by Apple (I have an 8500),
it IS possible to videotape directly to a VCR
or camcorder by connecting the video and sound out
to the recorder and disconnecting the monator (while the
computer is turned off, you understand). The computer
searches and outputs the monator signal to the video

Second, the resulting signal is rather poor, it comes out
pale, the vertical borders are crooked and there is
sometimes a noticable flicker around the edges.

Worst of all, the whole screen will not appear on the tape.
Full screen is 640 x 480 but the bottom and right -hand side
are clipped and I had to squeeze my graphics into a 529x369
box in the upper left-hand corner. Couldn't hide the menu bar,

In conclusion, it may not be worth all the trouble. I was able
to record some short examples of my music- graphic MAX
pieces, better than none at all if you don't have a computer to
show them on.

Where this technique might come in handy is in prepairing
a video tutorial for new MAX students- probably some of
you teaching have done this- but nothing beats live, hands on

I don't know if there is a video card I could buy that would
give better results going out the video port, one of those
ixMICRO or TARGA devices perhaps. I don't want to play games, I
just want better video out the ports and I don't really know if
these would help. Adding the 2 megs of video ram is also an
option, but I don't see how that would improve the signal.

Any comments or help appreciated!
Regards to all - Otto


Date:Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:21:54 +0900
From:christophe charles <charles@TKD.ATT.NE.JP>
Subject: Re: startup sound

> in case anyone is still looking=8Ai came across something at the other day
> that appears to be a patch to disable the Mac startup chime; go to:

well it didn't mute after a crash...
btw does anybody knows who is the composer
of the mac startup sound ?


Date:Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:07:47 -0000
From:Nick Rothwell <nick@CASSIEL.COM>
Subject: Re: Intercepting MIDI

> Has anyone looked into the possibility of intercepting MIDI messages going
> from an OMS sequencer into MAX?

Are you asking for anything more than the kind of routing which has
been possible using MIDI Manager for many years? MIDI event routing is
easy, MIDI beat clock routing is easy, and I've even had Vision
reading MTC from SMPTE timecode, doing tempo map conversion to beat
clock, and sending this to MAX. (I recorded my entire album in this
manner, on a Mac SE/30.)


Nick Limited
systems - composition - installation - performance


Date:Sun, 5 Sep 1999 14:41:28 +0100
From:Michael Alcorn <alcorn@DNA1.DNET.CO.UK>
Subject: Newbie question solved...

Sorry for wasting bandwith - I fixed the error by enabling 'Scheduler in
Audio Interrupt' in the Max Status window.


-- Michael


Date:Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:56:18 EDT
Subject: Re: Intercepting sequencer data

> In a message dated 9/2/99 20:15:22, JR wrote:
> >Has anyone looked into the possibility of intercepting MIDI messages going
> >from an OMS sequencer into MAX? I want to be able to get data from a track
> >of a sequencer on any port/channel before it gets to the physical port. I
> >know this is tricky, but it would be of great use to be able to capture

> >from a sequencer and do something with it in MAX. This is different than
> >using an IAC bus.
> >
> > Also, are there are objects or patches for doing MMC? I want a way to have
> >MAX tell a sequencer to punch in and out of record while it is playing.
> >
> > My goal in all this is to develop a sort of 'flying faders' style
> >automation. Someone I know wants to be able to open a track in Cubase,
> >that track, have that track (and only that track) send its contgroller data
> >to a motorized MIDI fader. Then upon touching the fader (which can send a
> >MIDI Message) have it start to replace the controller data in that track
> >until he takes his finfer of the fader (which can also send a special
> >message).
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> To my knowledge the IAC solution is the only way to go within MAX to do
> you are proposing. Given that you can assign 4 IAC busses and that each of
> these has 16 channels, you could assign 64 tracks of a MIDI sequence to the
> IAC busses, monitor and modify these and send them out thru midiout objects
> to the original devices. This sounds too easy, am I missing something?
> On the MMC, where MAX objects are not geared to certain specific MIDI
> then one has to refer to a MIDI spec bible and write a MAX patch that sends
> the required MIDI data.
> JW


Date:Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:51:56 -0400
From:Neal Farwell <nfarwell@FAS.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject: Re: startup sound

Don't bother unles you've got a blue G3 or G3 Series powerbook - other
models are specifically excluded. I guess it patches the "Open Firmware".

And you don't get this information *until* you've installed. Nine items, it
says: I can only find 3 to remove again... that's always worrying, an
installer that installs stuff on a system it could tell is incompatible
then doesn't tell you what it's done... An email will go to Bitheadz...


>From:Roger Carruthers <roger.carruthers@VIRGIN.NET>
>Subject: startup sound
>in case anyone is still looking=8Ai came across something at the other day
>that appears to be a patch to disable the Mac startup chime; go to:


Date:Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:42:26 -0700
From:David Zicarelli <zicarell@SOUNDFLOWER.COM>
Subject: Re: help to disentangle?

Lawrence Ball <Lawrenceball@PLANETTREE.DEMON.CO.UK> writes:

>I got: 'the application programme MaxFAT 3.5.9 could not be opened because
>an error of type -39 occured', prior to attempting to reinstall.

If you see this error, check the file size of Max: it might be 0.

If you're using key disk authorization, I would suggest deauthorizing
your hard disk first before reinstalling when you see this

>I then attempted to reinstall Max/MSP from the CD-ROM, having moved the
>current folder to a ZIP but the resulting installation didn't bring up the
>usual print window or complete its authorization.

I'm not sure what you mean here. The more recent versions of
the Max installer (post 3.5) do not authorize the software. This is
done when you launch the application for the first time.

>At this point I decided to ask if anyone has perspective on this.
>Am I better off reinstalling, and if so, how can I?

This paragraph seems to contradict the previous one. Did you try
reinstalling or not?

David Z.


Date:Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:44:51 -0700
From:David Zicarelli <zicarell@SOUNDFLOWER.COM>
Subject: Re: newbie question...

Michael Alcorn <alcorn@DNA1.DNET.CO.UK> writes:

>I have created a patch which generates a pulse (300ms apart) using a
>metro and an oscillator. I notice that there is an unacceptable degree
>of latency - four or five 'notes' are perfectly spaced then there is a
>small delay, then the cyle repeats. Can anything be done about this, or
>does anyone know of the cause?

Set the I/O vector size to something small, like 128 or
64, in the DSP Status window, and enable Scheduler In Audio Interrupt
mode. This will clean up the timing. Better still would be to use
train~ instead of metro.

David Z.


Date:Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:42:25 +0200
From:filip <filip@RHIZ.ORG>
Subject: enable $1

is anybody aware of a hack, that produces a representation
of the enable/disable switch in a window´s title bar?


is it possible to send the enable $1 message to a patch from
within the same window, without using pcontrol and a
subpatch. "thiswindow" wont make it.

cheers klaus


Date:Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:30:03 -0000
From:Nick Rothwell <nick@CASSIEL.COM>
Subject: Re: startup sound

> btw does anybody knows who is the composer
> of the mac startup sound ?

I have some email from him somewhere; I could probably find it
eventually if people were genuinely that interested.

The startup sound is a sample of a chord played on a Korg M1.


Nick Limited
systems - composition - installation - performance


End of MAX Digest - 4 Sep 1999 to 6 Sep 1999 (#1999-265)