Subject: MAX Digest - 30 Aug 1999 to 31 Aug 1999 (#1999-260)
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There are 14 messages totalling 371 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Max startup crash (2)
  2. pitch shifting
  3. MSP/Digidesign (2)
  4. MAX startup crash
  5. Max and Vision
  6. New URL for Lobjects
  7. preset
  8. pictures -> sound (2)
  9. System error #12
  10. Max startup Crash
  11. pitch shift

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:20:40 -0400
From:David Crandall <dcrand1@GL.UMBC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Max startup crash

All I can offer (working from memory here) is that I think system error
-39 refers to "unexpected end-of-file" which would indicate some object or
bit of software has become corrupted at the Finder level. If I'm right
you must track down which item has lost itself and replace it. It might
even be something in the System suitcase. Possibly if it's in the
directory structure a disk repair program could help??

dc

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:52:39 +0200
From:Jeffrey Burns <jeff@BERLIN.SNAFU.DE>
Subject: pitch shifting

It would be a great help if someone would give us an example of a
pitch-shifting patch and tell us where the necessary externals can be found.

Jeff Burns

http://www.snafu.de/~jeff

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:28:48 +0200
From:Reinhold Braig <reinhold.braig@SWR-ONLINE.DE>
Subject: Re: MSP/Digidesign

Hi Suzan,

>I would like to use MSP with Digidesign interfaces (888/24/I/O).

You have to use "Direct I/O MSP Audiodriver" and it works fine, With the
"digidesign output drivers" you only route the sound through the Macintosh
Sound outputs.

One problem we have is with the "Direct I/O MSP Audiodriver" setup:


When we start MSP, the setup always change the I/O on the Interface (888)
on channel 1 &2 to analog, indepent of the setting in Digitsetup prefs (set
to digital)
Has anybody the same problem?


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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:42:42 -0400
From:Neal James Farwell <nfarwell@FAS.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject: Re: MAX startup crash

David -

One time I had an incomprehensible problem that wasn't fixed by
reinstalling, Norton etc (I assume you've used Norton or similar to check
the disk integrity? and checked for viruses?) it turned out to be a
corrupt System file - try downloading TechTool, which checks this.

good luck...

Neal

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:38:59 -0500
From:Todd Welbourne <tgwelbou@FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU>
Subject: Max and Vision

Hi there,
I have been recording Vision (2.0.1) patches into Max (3.5.9) fora
couple of years so I told a friend I'd show him how to do with his Vision
(4.0.1) and Max (3.5). Well, with OMS (2.3.7) I set up an IAC bus in a
new studio setup (IAC shows up in the setup and everything) and then went
to Vision and tried to change the "Thru" instrument to the IACand it does
not show up and a choice of instrument! This is how I always worked my
systme and it was fine..... This is really an OMS/Vision problem I realize
but I have noticed lots of people doing this type of thing on the list and
maybe someone knows of something in the later versions of Vision that I am
not aware of?? TIA, TW


Todd Welbourne
University of Wisconsin-Madison
School of Music
455 N. Park Street
Madison, WI 53706
ph. (608) 263-1914
email: tgwelbou@facstaff.wisc.edu
web: http://hum.lss.wisc.edu/welbourne

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:59:44 +0200
From:Garth <garth@ACTIVATEDSPACE.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Max startup crash


David Crandall wrote:

> All I can offer (working from memory here) is that I think system error
> -39 refers to "unexpected end-of-file" which would indicate some object or
> bit of software has become corrupted at the Finder level. If I'm right
> you must track down which item has lost itself and replace it. It might
> even be something in the System suitcase. Possibly if it's in the
> directory structure a disk repair program could help??

I have had this problem before. I got someone else to open my MAX files on
their machine and then email then back to me - then they were fine - dont ask
why, but it worked fine - have had to do this several times.

Garth

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:18:36 -0700
From:Peter Elsea <elsea@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject: New URL for Lobjects

I have from time to time touted my Lobjects extension set, along with some
tutorials I use in my classes. The powers that administer web sites around
here have chosen to move them.
The new URLs are ftp://arts.ucsc.edu/Webserver/pub/ems/Lobjects
and ftp://arts.ucsc.edu/Webserver/pub/ems/MaxTutors

For those new to the list, the Lobjects add functions for advanced list
management, including vector like math, searching, fuzzy logic and other
set operations, specialized makenote objects, and much more.

The tutorials cover basic to advanced operations, and are organized by
musical application- e.g. there's a chapter on timing, one on building
chords, Midi Machine control, and so forth.
Peter Elsea
Director, Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz
http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/index.html
elsea@cats.ucsc.edu

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:39:46 +0200
From:jvkr <jvkr@KONCON.NL>
Subject: Re: preset

Bob Ostertag wrote:

>Now, I have made a tiny patcher file that routes every variable I want in a
>preset to one page. The only thing on that page are the sends and receives
>from all the instances of those patchers, and a number box for each.
>
>Works great. The only hassle is trying to ensure a particular order of
>execution when a preset it recalled.

This sounds like a great idea. About the order: I found it is possible to
edit your patch textwise to change it. But it would be too stupid to
actually do that (try it and you know why). Yet it gave me an idea about
how preset could work easier. What about if you could attach some kind of
label to all the objects you want its content to be stored. These labels
could be everywhere in the patch, in any subpatch (just like send and
receive work). Next, what about if then you could doubleclick the preset
box, or something, and a field appeared containing all the labels and the
data allready stored with them, offering you the possibility to edit the
content, add or remove, change order, write comments etc. That would take
away many of the disadvantages mentioned untill now in this discussion.


It would become even greater when it would offer the possibility of
interpolating from one set of data, to another.
It's an idea, I am not a programmer, just a dreamer.

Johan

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:23:36 -0700
From:{ brad brace } <bbrace@WIRED.COM>
Subject: pictures -> sound

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:52:09 +0200
From:jose manuel berenguer <jmcoclea@INTERCOM.ES>
Subject: System error #12

Hello again


I'm having Max 3.5.8 crashes. Max quits suddenly giving System error #12.
this happens too much often when some movies object are active.

Apple error guide stands the following for this error code :

"ID=3D12 Unimplemented Core Routine
A programmer might set breakpoints in parts of a program to inspect for
errors. This requires using a debugger. If a debugger isn't installed when
a breakpoint occurs, you see this error code."

how could occur any breakpoint, if I never fixed any?

anybody knows which objects, structures, sequences or anything could force
Max to reach such a breakpoint? is there any way to avoid this behaviour?

best

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:29:23 PDT
From:Julia Christensen <videocamera57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Max startup Crash

David-
I work in a science museum and we have a lot of exhibits running on Max. We
have experienced error #-39 many times. Are you using At Ease? In our
situation At Ease was somehow opening up two versions of the Max application
that we were trying to run, and we had to take the copy that was on the
desktop off of the hard drive and leave only the one in the At Ease file. I
don't know if that is any help to you, but we do think the #-39 thing is
referring to two copies of the app being open or something along those
lines. Sort of mysterious to us, but our solution has always worked.
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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:19:48 +0200
From:Werner Funk <werner.funk@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject: Re: MSP/Digidesign

> Date:Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:00:16 +0100
> From:
Suzan Erkalp <erkalp@RD.GRAME.FR>
> Subject: MSP/Digidesign
>
> Hello, I am sorry if this question has already appeared on this list.
> I would like to use MSP with Digidesign interfaces (888/24/I/O). The output
> works well (with the sound manager and a "digidesign output drivers"
> extension). But there is no input possible with such a hardware.
> Does anyone know if a "digidesign input driver" exists for MSP ? Does
> anyone use MSP with ProTools hardware ?
> Thank you very much for your help !
> Suzan
>

The Direct I/O driver included in the MSP package works fine with my ProTools
882 interface.

Bonne chance!


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toujours a la recherche du son pur:
siempre buscando el sonido ideal:
always working on the pure sound:

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:41:35 -0400
From:Jeff Brown <jeffb@AMNH.ORG>
Subject: pitch shift

If you're interested in learning how pitch shift is done, you might want


to check out
http://www.prosoniq.com/time_pitch_faq.html

--Jeff

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Date:Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:06:22 +0200
From:Sukandar Kartadinata <sk@ZKM.DE>
Subject: Re: pictures -> sound

>Are there any applications that will 'read' images (changes in saturation,
>color, form, etcetera) as sound -- other than SoundHack? TIA

try Metasynth
I think there's a demo available at www.uisoftware.com


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