Subject: MAX Digest - 10 Aug 1999 to 11 Aug 1999 (#1999-239)
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There are 11 messages totalling 385 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. bug in coll ? (2)
  2. groove~ loop points
  3. max timing info
  4. b/w G3s and korg 1212 cards
  5. Eliminating Mac boot-up sound? (3)
  6. File out, otudp and more serial ports
  7. MAX Digest - 9 Aug 1999 to 10 Aug 1999 (#1999-238)
  8. LorenzAttractor

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Date:Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:30:28 -0400
From:Alejandro Cremaschi <cremasch@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU>
Subject: bug in coll ?

I've been experiencing some problems with the 'write' command in coll.

1) I ask coll to write its content to a file whose name contains spaces
(e.g [write 'Hard Drive:my file'] ). I enclose the name with single smart
quotes

2) I send coll a read command.

3) The Max window shows:
* error: PowerPC version can't read old format files
* error: coll: error reading [filename]

I've tried using "hard spaces" instead of smartquotes. Same problem.

This bug is especially annoying when you want to supply a pathname:file to
coll, and some of the directory names contain spaces.

Has anyone experienced this problem? Am I doing something wrong? Any help
will be appreciated.

Thank you.

Alejandro

PS: I'm using Max 3.5.8 in a Performa 6300

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Date:Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:28:35 +0100
From:Benjamin Thigpen <Benjamin.Thigpen@IRCAM.FR>
Subject: groove~ loop points

Hello Maxperts,

I'm having problems setting groove~'s loop points with a signal. First, it
takes the signal values received as sample numbers rather than milliseconds
(so to loop the first second you send 0 and 441000 rather than 0 and 1000).
Second, its sync does not ramp correctly:it starts out slowly and then
suddenly jumps to 1 (as if it were heading for 44100 ms and then suddenly
realized that it was already there...).


Has anyone else had this problem? I don't recall it being discussed here.
Looks like a bug to me, but maybe my copy is just somehow corrupted.

Test patch below.

Ben

> !nfo data z!kld !n komplecz z!klz.

-----------------

max v2;
#N vpatcher 50 40 430 328;
#P comment 115 22 246 196617 If groove~'s loop points are set with signals
\, they must be set in samples rather than in milliseconds ...;
#P message 7 226 41 196617 replace;
#P newex 7 252 61 196617 buffer~ hey;
#P number 272 112 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P user scope~ 152 143 357 249 221 3 221 -1. 1. 0 0. 0 0.;
#P message 151 53 32 196617 1000;
#P message 235 53 38 196617 44100;
#P number 185 53 43 9 0 0 0 3;
#P newex 107 79 35 196617 sig~ 0;
#P newex 235 81 60 196617 sig~ 44100;
#P user number~ 88 138 149 153 9 3 3 2 0. 0. 0 0. 250 0.;
#P toggle 3 46 15 0;
#P message 3 71 41 196617 loop \$1;
#P flonum 63 23 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P newex 63 45 35 196617 sig~ 1;
#P user gain~ 62 137 24 41 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.;
#P user ezdac~ 62 209 106 242 1030251897;
#P number 107 52 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P message 47 71 14 196617 0;
#P newex 63 110 99 196617 groove~ hey;
#P number 277 53 43 9 0 0 0 3;
#P comment 115 254 245 196617 ... and the loop sync output does not ramp
correctly.;
#P connect 13 0 2 1;
#P connect 12 0 2 2;
#P connect 7 0 2 0;
#P connect 14 0 2 2;
#P connect 2 0 11 0;
#P connect 2 1 17 0;
#P connect 16 0 2 2;
#P connect 15 0 12 0;
#P connect 9 0 2 0;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 20 0 19 0;
#P connect 18 0 17 0;
#P connect 18 0 17 1;
#P connect 10 0 9 0;
#P connect 8 0 7 0;
#P connect 6 0 5 0;
#P connect 2 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 5 1;
#P connect 4 0 13 0;
#P connect 1 0 12 0;
#P pop;

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Date:Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:53:26 -0600
From:Kevin Walker <kwalker@XMISSION.COM>
Subject: Re: bug in coll ?

I've had similar problems writing table objects, or saving them with


the patcher. Occasionally, the patch becomes corrupted and I get
"error: PowerPC version can't read old format files" messages. (I'm
using MaxFAT 3.5.9.)

>I've been experiencing some problems with the 'write' command in coll.
>
>1) I ask coll to write its content to a file whose name contains spaces
>(e.g [write 'Hard Drive:my file'] ). I enclose the name with single smart
>quotes
>
>2) I send coll a read command.
>
>3) The Max window shows:
>* error: PowerPC version can't read old format files
>* error: coll: error reading [filename]

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Date:Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:26:25 -0800
From:Peter Nyboer <pnyboer@SIRIUS.COM>
Subject: Re: max timing info

Peter Elsea wrote:
>Deciphering MTC in Max is
>a trick- I've described some strategies in a tutorial posted at
>ftp://arts.ucsc.edu/pub/ems.

These strategies are indeed helpful. I used the MTC tutorial to decode MTC
coming from a computer running Logic. I am using it to start QT movie
playback on different machines at a particular h:m:s:f. All the movies
start at the same time, and there is no drift.
I did have a problem of Max reporting that it was getting overwhelmed by
the amount of MIDI coming in, and I would get a dialog box asking me to
quit or reset the port. I had a continuous display of the timecode on the
screen, with the timecode going into a past object, plus I am continually
polling the movie object to get frame info, so I wasn't *too* surprised
that Max had too much too quick. I am a bit surprised, since it's an ugly
ol' BlueG3 with gobs o' memory. This was an occasional problem that I am
hoping is solved by detatching the patch cord (via a switch) from midiin
once the movie has started. Further tests will let me know, I imagine.

Peter


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stuff on dry land"

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Date:Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:53:54 +0200
From:jasch <jasch@KAT.CH>
Subject: b/w G3s and korg 1212 cards

does anyone have any experience with the new b/w-G3s and korg cards?

is the 1212 I/O MSP Audiodriver dating from july 1998 compatible with
the korg extension 1212 I/O 1.3 (latest version ->mai 1999 compatible
with b/w G3s and OS 8.6)

for some reason my MAX/MSP doesn't see the card at startup.
sound manager apps and cubase do recognize it, meaning that the card
is somehow hooked into the system.


my machine specs: G3 450Mhz OS D1-8.6
(ROM Revision: $77D.44B5 Boot ROM Version: 1.1f4 Mac OS ROM Version:
D1-1.6 Volume-Cache:4 MB VideoRAM:15.96 MB Backside L2 Cache:1 MB)

have I overlooked something blatantly simple.....?

any ideas, hacks, experiences and comments are welcome!!

gruss
_j

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

jan schacher | luzern | switzerland

jasch@kat.ch | www.kat.ch/jasch

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Date:Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:15:00 -0700
From:Matt Wright <matt@CNMAT.CNMAT.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject: Eliminating Mac boot-up sound?

From: Matt Wright (matt@cnmat.berkeley.edu)

I'm using Max for an installation that will run for many years, and budget and
other constraints force me to use Sound Manager and the Mac's built-in audio
output.

My problem is that I have to assume the Mac will restart some time (like after
a power failure), and it would be pretty bad to hear that luscious boot-up
chord come blasting through the speakers.

Anybody know how to make a Mac not make this sound when it boots?

Thanks!

-Matt

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Date:Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:38:42 -0700
From:Matt Wright <matt@CNMAT.CNMAT.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject: Re: File out, otudp and more serial ports

Georg Hajdu wondered:

> I was wondering whether it would be possible to change the IP address on the
> fly using a message instead of having to type in the IP number as an argument
> each time I want to communicate with a different computer. I know a workaround
> with bpatcher but it would be nice to have this feature built into your
> object.

Yes, I just added this feature to OTUDP in version 1.6. Send it the message
"host" with 2 arguments: the desired host name and the desired port number.
It will switch on the fly to the new host.

Get it from somewhere under http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/Max

-Matt

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Date:Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:28:32 -0400
From:Jeff Brown <jeffb@AMNH.ORG>


Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 9 Aug 1999 to 10 Aug 1999 (#1999-238)

> The KAOSS Pad from Korg is only 2-D but loads of fun. It has
> semi
> usable
> sampling and the usual filter sweeps, along with midi output. > I paid $300.
> It is a surface pad that does realtime DSP control (presets
> only).

Hah! Two years ago I saw a Korg keyboard with a 2-D controller like
that built in. I sent them an email suggesting they sell that pad as a
controller by itself. It was a shot in the dark, but they actually
listened! I never would have guessed.

--Jeff

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Date:Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:48:52 +1000
From:Garth Paine <garth@ACTIVATEDSPACE.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Eliminating Mac boot-up sound?

Hi Matt

>Anybody know how to make a Mac not make this sound when it boots?

I have had this problem in permanent installations as well. The only
solution I have come up with is two apple scripts.

Place one in the shutdown folder which terns the volume down to "0".
Place on in the startup folder that terns the volume up to full "7".

The problem with this is of course if the machine gets confused for
some reason and the script does not execute properly. I decided that
hearing the MAC sound was the safest option.

Cheers,

Garth

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Date:Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:37:01 -0400
From:David Crandall <dcrand1@GL.UMBC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Eliminating Mac boot-up sound?

I'm not home at the moment and may have thrown this out because I never
got it to work quite right, but there *is* an extension or control panel
that's supposed to do this basically by muting the sound before shutdown
and unmuting it during startup (but this wouldn't always work if you
crashed[?]). For some reason "MacHush" rings a bell but could be the wrong
name entirely.

dc

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Date:Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:28:05 -0400
From:j robert <avatar@MEDUSE.ORG>
Subject: LorenzAttractor

Hi all

is ther a new version of LorenzAttractor that will work with 3.5.9 ? I
can't open the old one now and of course, i use it a lot and have a show on
Saturday...

Jocelyn Robert


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