Subject: MAX Digest - 4 Aug 1999 to 5 Aug 1999 (#1999-233)
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There are 14 messages totalling 488 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. MIDI and movie
  2. performance safety!
  3. controllers
  4. serial port went blotto
  5. Sound Box 2.0 (FWD)
  6. Midifile locate
  7. emulate key strokes down/up cursor.
  8. Controllers... (3)
  9. Whats happened to "Rect" in graphic object?
  10. 2408 & ADAT input
  11. Pitch change through continuous controller
  12. OMS and Quicktime

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:44:07 +0200
From:Jeffrey Burns <jeff@BERLIN.SNAFU.DE>
Subject: MIDI and movie

>That might be an option. How does one put a MIDI file into a movie?

Just open the midi file in Movie Player and save. BTW I've improved a patch
that I posted some weeks ago, which records midi and plays it back from
whatever starting point you want. Enjoy:

Jeff Burns

max v2;
#N vpatcher 50 40 442 412;
#P message 271 193 81 196617 \; max interval 1 \; max preempt 1;
#P newex 183 73 56 196617 t b i b;
#P newex 183 116 25 196617 128;
#P newex 158 73 23 196617 0;
#P newex 32 73 69 196617 split 0 128;
#P newex 32 95 20 196617 b 1;
#P newex 271 95 24 196617 b 1;
#P newex 206 95 26 196617 >> 4;
#P newex 315 95 24 196617 1;
#P newex 315 73 46 196617 loadbang;
#P number 183 48 55 9 0 0 65 3;
#P newex 271 141 39 196617 * 16.;
#P newex 271 119 39 196617 / 0.;
#P flonum 300 48 35 9 0 4 3 3;
#P newex 11 238 90 196617 noteout 1;
#P newex 11 216 50 196617 flush;
#P newex 158 164 109 196617 counter;
#P newex 158 141 50 196617 metro 16;
#P message 120 164 29 196617 clear;
#P newex 11 141 34 196617 >> 4;
#P newex 11 164 105 196617 pack 0 0 0;
#P newex 11 119 31 196617 timer;
#P button 11 48 15 0;
#N coll ;
#P newobj 11 193 50 196617 coll;
#P newex 58 141 57 196617 notein 1;


#P comment 2 30 46 196617 record:;
#P comment 300 30 38 196617 speed:;
#P comment 184 30 54 196617 play from:;
#P comment 239 49 24 196617 ms.;
#P comment 26 266 130 196617 Variable Start Sequencer: 1. Record some MIDI
music. 2. Drag on "play from" box for immediate start from anywhere in the
sequence. 3. Drag on "speed" box to change speed \, if desired.;
#P comment 271 324 76 196617 by Jeff Burns;
#P connect 29 0 13 0;
#P fasten 29 2 15 0 234 213 16 213;
#P connect 29 0 28 0;
#P connect 29 1 23 0;
#P fasten 28 0 26 1 188 136 171 136 136 70 66 70;
#P fasten 27 0 26 1 163 95 154 95 137 70 66 70;
#P connect 27 0 13 0;
#P connect 26 0 25 0;
#P connect 25 0 9 1;
#P connect 23 0 14 2;
#P connect 24 0 18 0;
#P fasten 22 0 18 0 320 115 276 115;
#P fasten 22 0 17 0 320 115 364 115 364 46 305 46;
#P fasten 21 0 30 0 320 92 312 92 312 185 276 185;
#P connect 21 0 22 0;
#P connect 20 0 29 0;
#P fasten 19 0 13 1 276 160 228 160 228 138 203 138;
#P connect 18 0 19 0;
#P connect 17 0 18 1;
#P fasten 17 0 24 0 305 91 276 91;
#P connect 15 0 16 0;
#P connect 15 1 16 1;
#P fasten 14 0 7 0 163 189 16 189;
#P connect 13 0 14 0;
#P fasten 12 0 7 0 125 185 16 185;
#P connect 11 0 10 0;
#P connect 10 0 7 0;
#P connect 9 0 11 0;
#P connect 8 0 9 0;
#P fasten 8 0 12 0 16 66 125 66;
#P fasten 8 0 27 0 16 66 163 66;
#P connect 7 0 15 0;
#P fasten 6 0 26 0 63 160 55 160 55 70 37 70;
#P connect 6 0 10 1;
#P connect 6 1 10 2;
#P pop;


http://www.snafu.de/~jeff

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:28:03 +0100
From:david stevens <david@RESONANT.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: performance safety!

hi all,

i'm doing my first public performance with max/msp next week, using my Powerbook
G3, and i wanted to check to see if there was anything else i ought to take with
me besides:

Mac OS cds; Max & MSP cds & floppies; Norton Utilities; backup copies of the
patch on cd & zip.

is there anything that i've forgotten? and any other essential bits & pieces
that i ought to take with me?


thanks

david

(PS. I'll be at Colourscape in York, Museum Gardens from 12-2 & 4-6 pm on 13/8
if anyone's in that area! come & say hi)

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:48:28 +0200
From:krl <kliem@MESO.NET>
Subject: controllers

the fader box jhno mentioned is made by ibk. they also did that korg faderbox.
they are looking for people that implement midi control for specific
instruments.
www.ibk-midi.de

krl

www.meso.net
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boom--tish----boomtish--boom--tish----boomtish--

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:01:02 -0400
From:Teri Rueb <rueb@UMBC.EDU>
Subject: serial port went blotto

Dear Max List,

I have a version of Max 3.5 running on a laptop G3 and somewhere along the
way it really messed with my serial connection such that no serial
communications software can see the serial port (no matter how it's
configured or what it's connected to---in this case a global positioning
satellite receiver).

I decided to reinstall the system software but unfortunately, I forgot to
de-authorize the copy of Max first (this, I hope, is just a side issue to
the primary tragedy).

The fresh install did not fix the serial problem.

Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks for your kind attention.

Best,
Teri

_________________________________
Teri Rueb
Assistant Professor of Visual Art
University of Maryland, Baltimore County
1000 Hilltop Circle
Baltimore, MD21250
Office: FA519, 410-455-3322
Email:rueb@umbc.edu
www:http://www.umbc.edu/~rueb

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:56:11 -0400
From:Christopher Murtagh <chris@MUSIC.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Sound Box 2.0 (FWD)


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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:09:47 -0400
From:sean paul zitello <spazello@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Re: Midifile locate

I don't recall if I replied to this question before so if so apologies in advance.

The way I have found to do this fairly well is with Text objects.
start with a .midi file (type 0) read into "Seq" and "Write"
Read the "seq'd" file into a Text and write some simple code to process the
delays.
I convert the "seq'd into 'mtr ish ' format, with deltas from previousrather
than delta from 0).
I then write a -1 to the end so that Text knows when its done.
The reason I dont use QT movies is that I want tochange
instruments/pitch/velocity.
You locate to Line numbers rather than millisecond counts. But the total line
count is easily derived with "uzi". If that bugs you then this is not a good
solution.


I have done this only with Note ON/Offs as controllers take up too much space and
Text is just 32000 bytes though I'm pretty sure I could use the last line to Point
to the text Text file.


sean paul zitello


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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:15:42 -0400
From:sean paul zitello <spazello@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Re: emulate key strokes down/up cursor.

I keep waiting for a MIDI based solution to controlling VR and well nice try
Vidvox but not there yet.
So the simpler question is two:
A. Can MAX orcreate keystrokes so that a QTVR running outside MAX can be
controlled thru MAX via MIDI.

  1. Has anyone used the 'nato ....' externals and do they work (by that I mean
    control, not simply display) with QTVR?

sean paul zitello

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:56:38 -0400
From:Stephen Kay <sk@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Controllers...

>Peavey1600 (or other
>reccomendations?).
>Anyone had direct experience with either & a good or bad feeling about
>it? Do either support double-precsion (Xbend) values?

I'm not sure about the double-precision Xbend values, but I have a
Peavey PC-1600, and like it very much. Easy to program, lots and
lots of buttons and sliders, several flexible options...
While I do not specifically have experience with the FaderMaster,
some other JLCooper stuff I've owned in the past did not impress me.

I find the PC-1600 a great companion to experimenting with real-time
control in Max.

Stephen Kay

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:56:42 -0400
From:Stephen Kay <sk@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Whats happened to "Rect" in graphic object?

>There sems to be a bug in that latest version of Max
>(3.5.9-9) doesnt include "rect" object used with
>"graphic", like "oval" which does seem to
work!!)
>or at least doesnt recognise it, it does work in my
>Max set-up. Nothing comes up and Max gives that
>message "rect not an object.

I believe that rect is an "alias" of oval - this kind
of Max object programming I used at one time, but it
has too many problems, and it's better to just program
2 or 3 different versions of the object with a different
name -- but anyway, you should be able to fix your problem
by making an alias of oval, rename it "rect", and put it
in the system folder.

Stephen Kay

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:38:48 +0200
From:Robert Henke <imbalance@BERLIN.SNAFU.DE>


Subject: Re: Controllers...

Stephen Kay said in Controllers... at 05/Aug/1999, Thu 18:56:38.

> I'm not sure about the double-precision Xbend values, but I have a
> Peavey PC-1600, and like it very much.

No Stephen! no ! no !!!!! It`s bad ugly and evil. Yes. It has the most
horrible user interface i have ever seen im my whole live ( and i own a =
pcm
80...) How can so many arrow buttons, page, exit,enter buttons be so
unintuitive. If hell exists , than it looks like this.

/ end of personal opinion /

rob.

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:43:51 -0700
From:Alex Stahl <alex@PIXAR.COM>
Subject: 2408 & ADAT input

>>Is anyone out there using ADAT digital input through a MOTU 2408 into
>>Max/MSP?

Yes, with 8 channels from a Yamaha 03D console, 8 back out to a Paris
MEC>and to the console, everything routed through a midiman Digipatch and a
bunch of 16.5-foot long fiber patch cords.

>>On more than 8 channels?
>
Not yet, but I'll probably try it soon. Is it not working for you?

-Alex Stahl

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:30:12 +0200
From:Thomas Seelig <seelig@GIGANT.KGW.TU-BERLIN.DE>
Subject: Pitch change through continuous controller

Just a little change in the patch:

max v2;
#N vpatcher 159 203 610 562;
#P message 230 213 41 196617 \$1 200;
#P user number~ 235 265 274 280 9 3 3 2 0. 0. 0 0. 250 0.;
#P newex 230 233 30 196617 line~;
#P flonum 230 192 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P flonum 230 125 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P newex 230 102 44 196617 / 127.;
#P newex 230 81 43 196617 ctlin 64;
#P newex 230 170 32 196617 + 1.;
#P newex 230 148 39 196617 * 198.;
#P user ezdac~ 53 262 97 295 0;
#P newex 53 217 42 196617 tapout~;
#P newex 53 189 55 196617 tapin~ 200;
#P message 113 111 14 196617 1;
#P toggle 99 87 15 0;
#P message 53 88 28 196617 open;
#N sfplay~2 16384;
#P newobj 53 136 51 196617 sfplay~ 2;
#P comment 123 83 100 196617 loop a soundfile;
#P comment 50 34 259 196622 Pitch change through "continuous = controller".;
#P comment 275 214 94 196617 -> smooth changes;
#P comment 275 187 100 196617 sig~ gives discontinuous values.;


#P fasten 7 0 4 0 118 130 58 130;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P fasten 6 0 4 0 104 113 58 113;
#P connect 4 0 8 0;
#P fasten 17 0 9 0 235 259 171 259 171 213 58 213;
#P connect 8 0 9 0;
#P connect 9 0 10 0;
#P fasten 9 0 10 1 58 244 92 244;
#P fasten 4 2 7 0 98 158 141 158 141 99 118 99;
#P connect 13 0 14 0;
#P connect 14 0 15 0;
#P connect 15 0 11 0;
#P connect 11 0 12 0;
#P connect 12 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 19 0;
#P connect 19 0 17 0;
#P fasten 17 0 18 0 235 259 240 259;
#P pop;

Regards

Thomas Seelig

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seelig@gigant.kgw.tu-berlin.de
Fax: +49 30 325 81 66

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:34:54 -0500
From:Todd Welbourne <tgwelbou@FACSTAFF.WISC.EDU>
Subject: OMS and Quicktime

Dear Maxers,
My PB1400 had been running very slowly for weeks-couldn't find the
culprit untill I finally broke down and bought ConflictCatcher8 which
immediately pointed to a conflict between OMS (2.3.7) and the Quicktime
(4.0.2) group. Sure enough when one or the other is off my machine goes
back to normal. I really don't want to have to chose between these two
extensions! Does anyone else know anything about this problem?? TW


Todd Welbourne
University of Wisconsin-Madison
School of Music
455 N. Park Street
Madison, WI 53706
ph. (608) 263-1914
email: tgwelbou@facstaff.wisc.edu
web: http://hum.lss.wisc.edu/welbourne

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Date:Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:16:13 -0400
From:Stephen Kay <sk@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Re: Controllers...

>No Stephen! no ! no !!!!! It`s bad ugly and evil. Yes. It has the most
>horrible user interface i have ever seen im my whole live ( and i own a
pcm
>80...) How can so many arrow buttons, page, exit,enter buttons be so
>unintuitive. If hell exists , than it looks like this.

>/ end of personal opinion /

>
>rob.

You're entitled to your opinion. Mine still stands - I like it.

If you want to really see hell, buy a Yamaha keyboard :-)

Stephen Kay

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