Subject: MAX Digest - 24 Jul 1999 to 25 Jul 1999 (#1999-222)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:00:24 -0400
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There are 5 messages totalling 258 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Floppyless Copying of Max/MSP
  2. help! my toolbar disappeared (2)
  3. OT: floppy-less copying of Max/MSP?
  4. my toolbar has reappeared!

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Date:Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:59:58 -0400
From:"Mr. Jester" <mrjester@FLEDGE.WATSON.ORG>
Subject: Floppyless Copying of Max/MSP

Hi All -

So far as I have been able to find so far, Opcode on their website only
has an "updater" version of 3.5.9-9 with C/R copy protection. So yes, you
do need the 3.5 CD in my experience.

Here is how it goes:
Install from the 3.5 CD - simply install, do not run the program, or
attempt to authorize yet. Now run the 3.5.9-9 installer from the Opcode
website. Now, run the 3.5.9-9 program. It will tell you that it will run
for 30 days for free and ask you if you wish to authorize, run the
program, or quit. Say authorize. It will ask for the floppy - hit
cancel. It will then give you the challenge code for the disk, which you
can call, or submit via the webpage (there is even a handy "go to webpage"
button in the dialog). When you get your response, simply run the
program, say authorize again, and plug it in the appropriate field. Until
then (for 30 days) you can run Max unencumbered. The Response code that
opcode gives you will be specific to the drive you authorize.

For MSP, once you run the downloadable MSP installer, you will also be
asked for a Key Code. For MSP, it is not hard disk specific, so you do
not have to contact Cycling 74 for a new one. Rather, it is keyed to the
serial number, and expires every 6 months (whereupon C74 sends you a new
one - so far I have never received one late).

I do not have a copy of the MSP license readily available - there may be a
provision in it which allows installation on a desktop and a laptop from
one license - but I would not bet on it. CHeck the license to be sure you
dont need to buy another copy.

Jer

####Mr. Jester|mrjester@fledge.watson.org
##########Jer Welter|jwelter@peabody.jhu.edu
#| ** |#"this might just be the sit down
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Date:Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:19:59 +0200
From:Georg Hajdu <hajdu@UNI-MUENSTER.DE>
Subject: Re: help! my toolbar disappeared

I had these symptoms myself for a long time.


It actually didn't hurt MAX's performance but it was a nuisance when I had
to select objects from the palette.

I tried everything to fix; nothing worked until I played around with ResEdit
looking at (I don't exactly remember) either at the MAX resources or the
resources of the MAX start-up objects in question.

This seemed to have fixed it.

Hope this helps,

Georg Hajdu

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> Date:Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:22:51 -0400
> From:
Dafna Naphtali <dln1@acf2.nyu.edu>
> Subject: help! my toolbar disappeared
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> A plea for technical help from a normally quiet lurker on the list..
>
> First the symptoms/facts:
>
> 1. Half of the toolbar has suddenly and inexplicably disappeared on my
> computer when running either MaxFAT or Max68K (versions 3.5.8). The
> objects are *still* actually there and usable (if assistance is on you can
> see where they are and pull them down and use them), but most of the tools
> are simply not visible any more. All of my patches seem to be working fine.
>
> 2. When launching Max68K, I get a whole pile of errors like:
> * error: rescopy: failed to add DLOG 3146, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add DITL 3146, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add STR# 3146, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add ics# 3146, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add ics4 3146, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add ics8 3146, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add DITL 3160, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add DLOG 3160, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add DLOG 3107, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add DITL 3107, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add DITL 3108, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add DLOG 3108, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add STR# 3048, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add ics# 3048, error -61
> * error: rescopy: failed to add ics4 3048, error -61
>
> 3. There does not appear to be problems with any other software package
> installed on my machine, (although I have had some seemingly unrelated
> mysteriously shrinking text on title bars..)
>
> 4. The machine is a Powerbook G3/233 running OS 8.1
>
>
> What I have already done/checked out:
>
>
1. Ran Norton Utilities
>
2. Tried reinstalling Max (but did not throw out the old copy, does


> this matter ?)
>
3. Of course, checked for viruses.
>
4. Tried getting rid of extensions (even all extensions but OMS)
>
>
> Does anyone have any other ideas for me?

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Date:Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:47:21 -0400
From:David Zicarelli <zicarell@CYCLING74.COM>
Subject: Re: OT: floppy-less copying of Max/MSP?

John Phillips <jpch@TERRAGIZMO.NET> writes:

>Sorry everyone- I think I looked through all there was on the archive and
>couldn't answer my quandary: I am fortunate to have bought me-self a Lombard
>(333Mhz) PowerBook as an additional computer and an really corn-fused about
>how to copy Max and MAP onto it...I need to get it running ASAP.

If John can connect his new Powerbook to the internet,
he could download the challenge/response Max from the Opcode site
and MSP from the C74 site. The 3.5.9-9 version of Max runs in
a demo mode for 30 days while he waits for Opcode to respond
to his challenge. If he has purchased the downloadable
version of MSP, his authorization code will work on the
new machine. If he has the challenge/response version, he
can submit a challenge using the C74 web site's challenge
submission page. You can get there by clicking the Web Page
button when the challenge dialog appears.

The MSP license agreement allows for installation on several
computers, but requires a license for every copy that runs
simultaneously. So for instance, if you are an artist and
you sell your Max/MSP-based installation to a large and
successful art museum, you'll probably need to take that
big fat check they wrote you and buy another copy of MSP
for yourself if you plan to use it to develop another
installation.

I hope John's Lombard powerbook does not emit a high-pitched
whine related to the screen brightness. Mine does, and will require
a trip back to Apple to be fixed At the moment I find the noise so
obnoxious that it's almost unusable without wearing some
kind of hearing protection. And wouldn't you know it, Apple
is currently out of the parts to fix the problem and they
don't really know when they'll come in.

And speaking of hearing loss, I was rather disappointed to
learn that a) the new iBook has NO AUDIO IN and b) the use of
USB devices for audio I/O on the Mac is still a long ways off.
Apparently it may not even make it into the recently announced
System 9.

David Z.

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Date:Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:39:23 -0400
From:Dafna Naphtali <dln1@ACF2.NYU.EDU>
Subject: Re: help! my toolbar disappeared

Thanks to Roby, Steven Kay and George Hadju for the help, but my toolbar is
still 1/2 missing (not working)I am flipped out because I have a show in
2 days!


>1. Half of the toolbar has suddenly and inexplicably disappeared on
>my computer when running either MaxFAT or Max68K (versions 3.5.8).
>The objects are *still* actually there and usable (if assistance is
>on you can see where they are and pull them down and use them), but
>most of the tools are simply not visible any more. All of my patches
>seem to be working fine.
>

Roby said:

>Replace the Max Audio Library

Did that, but the problem is apparently originating in the Max startup
folder(launch errors disappear if the folder is emptyor has a different
name). Many of the objects that are missing are not even audio objects
(like Dial)

>2. When launching Max68K, I get a whole pile of errors like:
>* error: rescopy: failed to add DLOG 3146, error -61
>
>Give more memory to Max68k

I doubled it (to 10000K) still no better.

>

Stephen suggested I need more disk space.. I have 1.4GB free so this is not
the problem either.


George said he did some stuff in ResEdit.. I looked in there but was only
able to identify that the resources that are missing are those for the
graphics from the toolbar (which I already knew). Any suggestions on what
to correct ?

Another thing to mention is if I try to "get info" on any of the "missing
objects" that are in my working patches, either version of Max crashes
instantly.

Still frustrated..

Dafna Naphtali

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Date:Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:09:00 -0400
From:Dafna Naphtali <dln1@ACF2.NYU.EDU>
Subject: my toolbar has reappeared!

Don't bother responding to the last message about my disappearing toolbar.
The suggestions you all gave seemed to all indicate that there are problems
writing to my hard drive and not problems with Max. When I ran Norton
Utilities again, I found major errors. After correcting the errors (with
the Volume Header Block and Allocation Table), all of the problems
disappeared..

Guess I can go back to lurking again..


Thanks for the help!

Dafna Naphtali

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