Subject: MAX Digest - 18 Jul 1999 to 19 Jul 1999 - Special issue (#1999-215)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:48:13 -0400
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Topics in this special issue:

  1. <No subject given> (2)

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Date:Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:48:39 -0600
From:Jonah Prior <jonahp@5.CO.NZ>
Subject: <No subject given>

\+\ konzp!rass!_ov-ekualz +_ zlouch!ng 2uardz gomorrah


k=10ntent !d :

perl.init _ http://www.m9ndfukc.org/mcgill-lizt_ounr/konzp!rass!_ov-ekualz.c=
gi
java_ http://www.m9ndfukc.org/kode/mmf0+99.sit.bin
c--\max_ http://www.m9ndfukc.org/kode/!=3Dz2c!ja.sit.bin
parallel_ http://www.m9ndfukc.com/b47c99
parallel_ http://www.m9ndfukc.org/data/noisz/du3t.mp2
natlang_ http://www.m9ndfukc.org/mcgill-lizt_ounr/++protezt.hTmL


3ntrk=10d3rez=10rsz.!=3Dz2c!ja
_________ ________ ______

v knj!g! k! zem jo objav!la leta 0+1997 z
nazlovom rekonztru!rana f!kc!ja: nov! med!j!.
[v!deo] umetnozt. poztsoz!al!zem !n
retroavantgarda
!n podnazlovom teor!ja. pol!t!ka. eztet!ka: 0+1985-97
zem na kratko razv!la pojmovanje da je danez ob koncu
t!socletja mogoce opredel!t! dve matr!c! akt!vn!h
dejavn!kov v razmerju do vzhodne !n zahodne evrope
ter realnozt! nov!h med!jev: namrec zahodnoevropzko
matr!co druzbenega !zmecka !n vzhodnoevropzko matr!co posast!
m.grz!n!c _//


|| m9ndfukc.macht.fre!

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;20


dze benef!z!ar!ez ov dze elekz!on prozezsz
az!de 4rom dze w!nn!ng kand!datez =3D dze polzterz.
dze advert!z!ng agensz!ez wh!ch =3D dez!gn dze attak adz
dze netverk konglomeratz wh!ch =3D broadkazt dze attak adz
dze korporatz!onz dzat =3D hav zpent hundrdz ov m!ll!onz ov amerkan dolarz
2 f!nansz dze kand!datez' attak.

dze elektorl prozesz !=3D prov!d 1 forum 4 dze d!zkusz!on ov dze pol!t!kl +
zoz!al agenda.
dze elektorl prozesz =3D 1 !ntelekzual! + moral! bankrupt fasch!on galla zpe=
ktakl.


!t =3D 1 z!ztm sansz !ssuez. zansz !deaz. sansz programz.
dze elktorl prozesz =3D ztr!pd ov all demokrat!k kontent.

dze pr!nz!pl wh!ch =3D governsz dze elektorl prosesz =3D dzat ov eczluz!on
radzr dzn !nkluz!on.
!tz zkope =3D 2 l!m!t dze posz!bl range ov !deaz wh!ch =3D kan b plaszd b4 d=
ze
publ!k.

!tz abzurd!t! =3D appal!ng 2 an! funkz!on!ng m9nd konta!nr.


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=46rom: McGill University Max List Owner

"The FINAL word"

heaven listen: earth lend an ear: the lord has spoken:

thus cried the prophets when their eyes gleaming and mouths foaming
they proclaimed punishment to liars and apostates for their sins.
thus spoke the church in the middle ages and mankind prostrate with fear
crossed itself at the voice of the pontiff and the injunctions of his bishop=
s.

_ ignorance or impotence _


we are driven to this. we are determined to go on with this agitation.
it is our duty to make this a better place for women. - emmeline pankhurst

the new ideologists of inequality may wish to komprehend
the fruits of the planet belong to all + the planet belongs to no one

patternz emerge out of low level randomness
the study of self organizing systems
=3D in a sense the related opposite of the study of chaos.

in self organizing systems orderly patterns
emerge out of low level randomness.
in chaotic systems unpredictable behaviour
emerges out of lower level deterministic rules.

inequality =3D conducive to chaos


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The music of the century we will soon be leaving is certainly not ivory
tower music.
=46ree from ideology and dogma and free from the iron grip of the market
(which has rendered most pop music harmless), it displays the same moving
laceration,
blinding playfulness,

calm beauty, deep despair,

shocking ugliness,
disturbing mysteriousness,
hilarious joyfulness


and

transporting
vitality,

in short the same maddening diversity as the

general history

of this century.'

noztalg!a 4 1 akadem!e : perm!t 1 rever!e

detektion of onset + offset asynchrony in multikomponent komplexes.
diskriminating standard stimulus from signal stimulus
audibility as crisis and kommodification in 8'|sin.x(2^n)

everdz!ng wh!ch =3D permeatez human zoz!et! =3D !nkurz kompresz!on + abrev!a=
z!on

data =3D korekt : humanz =3D !nkorekt

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allo. allo. allo.

dze kurta!n dezcendz. ever!dz!ng endz.


;20

k(!)k

__ o __.__ o __

m=10rt :: b!t/[=AE]ev=10luz!=10n

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Date:Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:48:51 -0600
From:Jonah Prior <jonahp@5.CO.NZ>
Subject: <No subject given>

sch

sch

sch

me!nen dammen und herren :::: m!me verz!on : opera

\+\ konzp!rass!_ov-ekualz +_ b!t.ztream.t=10ks!n :: b!t/[=AE]ev=10luz!=10n


k=10ntent !d : eaztern european monzter matr!x
kontra veztrn zkum ov zoz!et! matr!x.


>Date:Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:38:49 -0700
>From:
dudas <dudas@CNMAT.BERKELEY.EDU>
>Subject: Re: nato.o+55+3d \/\ quickdraw 3d pour ircam max (fwd)
>
>I must admit that I am quite shocked to find out that Guy Van Belle has
>been removed from the max list for forwarding =3Dcw4t7abs' mail about her
>developments of max multimedia externals and patches/applications.
>=3Dcw4t7abs also asked me to forward the message, which I also thought was
>worthy of posting to the max list. Because I saw that Guy had already
>forwarded the message, I didn't bother to send it a second time, so I have
>not suffered the same (one would hope temporary?) fate as he.
>
>are we max-listers not allowed to mention =3Dcw4t7abs just because she has
>been removed from the list??


>
>
>>hallo
>>
>>m9nd fwd!ng dze b.lo 2 max-l +?
>>tzor! 2 azk ma!z d!sz =3D unbel!evabl.
>>
>>bzzp.
>
>no, I don't mind forwarding this information at all.
>you don't need to be sorry to ask - it is rather unbelievable (although
>Chris Murtagh probably has his reasons)
>
>
>>one is removed and discriminated against
>>simply for mentioning =3Dcw4t7abs +?
>>
>>=3D reminds of +?
>
>yes, indeed, but this sadly seems to be a recurring theme throughout human
>history, and I don't forsee that it will ever change.
>
>On a less Dostoyevskian note,


would u w!pe dze gl!zten!ng tear 4rm m! e!e
zm!l!ng gentl! at u
mak!ng e!ez at u
!f du =3D would leav ur f!ngerz on m! fasz tzo =3D ma! feel ur warmth
=3D 1 z!lnt konverzat!on

sch

sch

sch

im wild again
beguild again
a whimpering
simpering
child again
bewitchd
botherd and bw!lderd
am i
i couldnt sleep
i wouldnt sleep
when love came and told me i shouldnt sleep
bwitchd
botherd
and
bewilderd
am
i
lost my heart
but what of it
she is cold i agree =3D she can laugh but i love it
because the laugh's on me
i'll sing to her
in spring to her
and long for the day i can cling to her
bwitchd
botherd and bewildrd
am i
m! f!ngerz sa! mor dzn luv u


dze emot!v kontent =3D dze magn!tude
!t =3D dze natur ov
vn ! =3D zleep ! feel ur luv
vn ! =3D awak ! feel ur luv
d!ztansz =3D def!ned b! zpeed ovr t!me
prznt =3D b!ond
we =3D not zeparated
due 2 knou ur tearz tazte az m!ne
klosz ur e!ez
! =3D dzere
du =3D t!ngl
ekzplor!ng
z!napt!k embrasz
hover!ng
evn !f our zk!n kould touch =3D !t kan nvr b kloszr dzn ds!z
du =3D !n m! ver! be!ng
1 log!k d!zkrepansz!
zt!mulatd b!
aktuatd b!
dze beaut! !nherent !n !llog!k
zurpaz!ng m! vernakulr
!nztl!ng =3D 1 null rout!n.

bl!ndd
dze kozt =3D temporal
1 galla \ zpektakl
dze katal!zt 4
dze pa!n =3D d!sz!pates
our perspekt!v =3D unl!m!td
=3D 1 athe!zt mass
=3D 1 kr! rout!n
du =3D rez!evd +?

procesz ov reprocesz!ng
prezupposd b!
log!k
reflekt!on ov
reflektd b!
=3D 1 ekzponent!al m!rror
at: 12.7.99 1:59:21 am


! =3D apolog!sz ma!z. muss jetzt gehen


m9nd =3D z!l!kon. m9ndfukc.macht.fre!.


dze pa!r!ng ov homologouz kromozomez one 4rom each odr prnt dur!ng me!os!z


>it will be nice to finally meet some of you
>at CNMAT's Max/MSP NightSchool which starts tomorrow (Monday) evening, so I
>will finally have some faces to match up with the names!!

On a less Dostoyevskian note, mak!ng e!ez at u

bzzzt


>http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/Calendar/Max_MSP.html
>
>
>-Richard (a.k.a. Xoaz)
>


>dudas@cnmat.berkeley.edu
>dudas@ircam.fr
>chong@cycling74.com
>
>
>bzzzt.


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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:18:14 +0200 (MET DST)
=46rom: Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@rug.ac.be>

Hi,

After Richard Dudas' intervention I was subscribed again on the max list!
Maybe more people complained! Hope so...


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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 15:57:59 -0400 (EDT)
=46rom: Christopher Murtagh <chris@music.mcgill.ca>
To: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com

I'm sorry, but I can no longer trust you enough for me to recommend
others to download anything from your www pages. I really wish this wasn't
so, but that's just how I feel. I've just been stabbed in the back by you
one too many times. This combined with the fact that you are someone who
refuses to reveal your true identity (for what ever reasons which I don't
care about), gives me ample reason to recommend that people avoid trusting
any software on your site. You will have to find someone else to recommend
this to the MAX list.

Chris


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=46rom: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com
To:Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@rug.ac.be>


hallo.

would m9nd 4uard!ng dze b.lo 2 max-l svp +?
....


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Date:Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:23:49 +0200
=46rom:Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@RUG.AC.BE>
Subject: msg from f1f0@m9ndfukc.com

(hope I am not breaking any rules here but it seems interesting for lots
of people on the list I think, anybody doing similar things? gz)


from f1f0@m9ndfukc.com

>Jeremy Yuille <overt@OVERLOBE.COM>
>in fact i have thought this would be a great way to control an MSP app on
>remote machine, say, using note information to trigger and tweak etc, a
>way would be GREAT though..


=3D kurntl! kontroll!ng max.msp v!a 0+1 web brouzr - netzkajp
=3D ma! majk !t publ!k depend!ng on zelekt data. z b.lo


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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:09:02 +0200 (MET DST)
=46rom: Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@rug.ac.be>
To: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com
Subject: Re: msg from f1f0@m9ndfukc.com (fwd)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-UIDL: b3f70070b214a15e2bcc3704079b999d


sorry!
boohooo!


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:35:50 -0400 (EDT)
=46rom: Christopher Murtagh <chris@music.mcgill.ca>
To: Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@RUG.AC.BE>
Subject: Re: msg from f1f0@m9ndfukc.com

Hi Guy,

Please don't do this sort of thing anymore. Antiorp was removed from this
list for a reason, and I really don't want to dig this all up again. If
you really feel that people need to hear antiorp's messages, post them up
in your living room and invite people there. Please don't bring it up
here. Thanks for your understanding.

Sincerely,

Christopher Murtagh


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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:09:02 +0200 (MET DST)
=46rom: Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@rug.ac.be>
To: max @ mcgill university
Subject: nato.o+55+3d \/\ quickdraw 3d pour ircam max


minutes later

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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:56:46 +0200 (MET DST)
=46rom: Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@rug.ac.be>
To: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com, tre@shoko.calarts.edu
Subject: Your removal from the MAX list (fwd)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-UIDL: 250f5f068c4beda1351bba7b0e26c188


aahh not again!


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:22:59 -0400
=46rom: "L-Soft list server at McGill University Computing Centre (1.8d)"
<LISTSERV@LISTS.MCGILL.CA>
Reply-To: MAX-request@LISTS.MCGILL.CA
To: Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@RUG.AC.BE>
Cc: Chris Murtagh <Chris.murtagh@HRDC-DRHC.GC.CA>,
Christopher Murtagh <chris@MUSIC.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Your removal from the MAX list

Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:22:59

YouhavebeenremovedfromtheMAXlist(MAX-Interactive
Music/MultimediaStandardEnvironments)byChristopherMurtagh
<chris@MUSIC.MCGILL.CA>.


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To: Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@rug.ac.be>
=46rom: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com
Subject: v97p979p7
Cc:
Bcc:
X-Attachments:


>how much stupidity can one swallow before one breaks?


1 terr0r ov dz!re =3D bkom!ng null!f!ed b!
repeatd ep!zodz ov !nart!kulatz!on ov eventz

z!m!lr 2 1 laborator! rat
hou man! t!mez kan 1 touch 1 elektr!f!ed gate

vakuoz z!lansz


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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:07:23 -0400
=46rom: Beatrice Beaubien
To: MAX@LISTS.MCGILL.CA


Subject: zum ersten mal
Status:

In reference to MAX tools and their development:
__________________________________________________________


minutes later

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=46rom: Beatrice Beaubien
To:f1f0@m9ndfukc.com


Chris Murtagh is poking around the web site
......


=46rom: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com
To:Beatrice Beaubien

>hav u b!n unzubzkr!bd 4rom max-l +?

Yes.

>!f tzo were u not!f!ed +?

No.


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>From:Christopher Murtagh chris@MUSIC.MCGILL.CA
>To:
MAX@LISTS.MCGILL.CA['Error is the mark of the higher organism."]
>
>I'm going to boot
>everyone of these assholes who reposts anti-krapmatter.
>
>From: "L-Soft list server at McGill University Computing Centre (1.8d)"
><LISTSERV@LISTS.MCGILL.CA>
>> quiet del max implode@WELL.COM
>implode@WELL.COM has been removed from the MAX list.
>No notification has been sent.
>


and

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To: =3Dcw4t7abs
=46rom: Gene Schwartz <implode@well.com>
Subject: digital death


>YouhavebeenremovedfromtheMAXlist(MAX-Interactive
>Music/Multimedia
StandardEnvironments)byChrisMurtagh


><chris.murtagh@HRDC-DRHC.GC.CA>.


and

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To: =3Dcw4t7abs
=46rom: !22
Subject: Your removal from the MAX list (fwd)

>YouhavebeenremovedfromtheMAXlist(MAX-Interactive
>Music/Multimedia
StandardEnvironments)byChrisMurtagh
><chris.murtagh@HRDC-DRHC.GC.CA>.


and

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To: =3Dcw4t7abs
=46rom: h3o
Subject:Your removal from the MAX list (fwd)

>YouhavebeenremovedfromtheMAXlist(MAX-Interactive
>Music/Multimedia
StandardEnvironments)byChrisMurtagh
><chris.murtagh@HRDC-DRHC.GC.CA>.


and

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To:=3Dcw4t7abs
=46rom: m

i have attempted to subscribe
but received: "your message has been forwarded to the list-owner 4 approval"
early this morning

since then; nothing


and

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=46rom: Nina Grandpre <@betterthanchange.com>
To:LISTSERV@lists.McGill.CA


SubscribeMAX


minutes later:betterthanchange.comvisited by Chris Murtagh


minutes later:

To: Nina Grandpre <@betterthanchange.com>

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and

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>From:Christopher Murtagh chris@MUSIC.MCGILL.CA
>To:
=3Dcw4t7abs
>Subject: Any more?
>
>
and now you can add one38 to that list.
>
>
Have fun.
>
>
Your friendly digital murderer,
>
>
Chris


and

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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh <chris@music.mcgill.ca>
To: "438, 538" <one38@one38.org>


Subject: Re: Any more?

Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9902241613250.8998-100000@sound.music.mcgill.ca>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII

On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, 438, 538 wrote:
> May I please enquire as to why I was not allowed to subscribe to your
> mailing list, max-l? I had merely sent a subscription request and appear
> to have been rejected.
> More details would be appreciated.

Greetings Mr. Salvaggio,

Due to circumstances that you are probably aware of, there have been a
few temporary changes as to who is permitted to join the MAX list. This is
quite unfortunate as I would much rather have an open list, without any
restrictions at all. However, to prevent any attacks to the MAX list like
other lists have been getting lately, I am blocking subscription from
anonymous subscribers, especially those that have domains that are related
to antiorp (=3Dc4ta7bs). If you wish to subscribe as Eryk Salvaggio, and not
'438, 538' then perhaps this can be arranged.

I apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused, but I really
want there to be peace on the MAX list, even at the unfortunate cost of
excluding some.

Sincerely,

Christopher Murtagh


and

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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 17:38:27 -0400 (EDT)
=46rom: Christopher Murtagh <chris@music.mcgill.ca>
To: f1f0@M9NDFUKC.COM
Subject: Re: MAX: f1f0@M9NDFUKC.COM requested to join
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-UIDL: bcc0b6dd2338253e8918c898995400a0


Sorry, but no.


On Sat, 22 May 1999, L-Soft wrote:

> Sat, 22 May 1999 10:32:59
>
> A
requestforsubscriptiontotheMAXlist(MAX-Interactive
> Music/Multimedia Standard
Environments) has been receivedfrom Netochka
> Nezvanova <f1f0@M9NDFUKC.COM>.
>
> You
can,atyourdiscretion,sendthefollowingcommandto
> LISTSERV@LISTS.MCGILL.CA to add this person to the list:
>
>
ADD MAX f1f0@M9NDFUKC.COM Netochka Nezvanova
>


=46rom: Netochka Nezvanova
To: Christopher Murtagh <chris@music.mcgill.ca> __+ and addtl life forms at
mcgill university


hello
as you may recall even the "vote" you prescribed
provided i be able to receive email.

you are once again involved in one lie.


minutes later:
=46rom: Christopher Murtagh <chris@music.mcgill.ca>
To:Netochka Nezvanova


You are absolutely correct.
I will subscribe you immediately


---------- and repetition teaches humans ___... quo! +?


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http://www.music.mcgill.ca/max/listpolicy.html

"The MAX listserv is an uncensored, open mailing list"


----------
Christopher Murtagh chris@MUSIC.MCGILL.CA

there have been a few temporary changes as to who is permitted to join the
MAX list.
This is quite unfortunate as I would much rather have an open list,


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Chris Murtagh on oct5:
I don't want this to become a censored list,


Chris Murtagh on oct11:
I really don't
give a shit what they say about free speech. Before I go, I'm going to boot
everyone of these assholes who reposts anti-krapmatter.


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http://www.music.mcgill.ca/max/listpolicy.html


"The MAX listserv is an uncensored, open mailing list"


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=46rom: "L-Soft list server at McGill University Computing Centre (1.8d)"
<LISTSERV@LISTS.MCGILL.CA>
quiet del max implode@WELL.COM
implode@WELL.COM has been removed from the MAX list. No notification has
been sent.


----------
>From: Christopher Murtagh <chris@music.mcgill.ca>
>Well antiorp, you have succeeded in turning me into the kind of monster
>I despise.


a large bird with mournful eyes has perched outside mywindow.
a large bird with mournful eyes has perched outside the window.

the rain programmed for this afternoon has been a washout
the life forms who konstrukt something real a vanishing breed are
life forms who konstrukt the something real are vanishing a breed
composers accept their fees. pay their patrons kikbacks and
to the public that arrives to the philharmonium at hear the
commissioned work performed they slip little a polysymphonical
kontrapuntal!n.


0+1 karesz

obzkur!t! =3D zurpaszd onl! b! dze kompl!kaz!on

1 unpred!ktabl verd!kt

dze ex!gensz ov dez!r.


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oke. Christopher Murtagh <chris@music.mcgill.ca> zupr zlalom mond!al


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Christopher Murtagh:

http://www.music.mcgill.ca/max/listpolicy.html

The MAX listserv is an uncensored, open mailing list


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Christopher Murtagh:

Due to circumstances that you are probably aware of, there have been a
few temporary changes


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Christopher Murtagh:

I really don't
give a shit what they say about free speech.

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Christopher Murtagh:

Before I go, I'm going to boot
everyone of these assholes who reposts anti-krapmatter.

quiet del max implode@WELL.COM
implode@WELL.COM has been removed from the MAX list. No notification has
been sent.


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Christopher Murtagh:

and now you can add one38 to that list.
Have fun.
Your friendly digital murderer,

Chris


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Christopher Murtagh:


Sorry, but no.


> ArequestforsubscriptiontotheMAXlist(MAX-Interactive
> Music/Multimedia Standard
Environments) has been receivedfrom Netochka
> Nezvanova <f1f0@M9NDFUKC.COM>.


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Christopher Murtagh:

Your email address:@betterthanchange.com
has been entered into a form on an adult website asking for
free passwords. If you did not request this information we
apologise, you may be a victimof aprank.


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Christopher Murtagh:

YouhavebeenremovedfromtheMAXlist(MAX-Interactive
Music/MultimediaStandardEnvironments)byChrisMurtagh
<chris.murtagh@HRDC-DRHC.GC.CA>.


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Christopher Murtagh:

YouhavebeenremovedfromtheMAXlist(MAX-Interactive
Music/MultimediaStandardEnvironments)byChrisMurtagh
<chris.murtagh@HRDC-DRHC.GC.CA>.


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Christopher Murtagh:

YouhavebeenremovedfromtheMAXlist(MAX-Interactive
Music/MultimediaStandardEnvironments)byChrisMurtagh
<chris.murtagh@HRDC-DRHC.GC.CA>.


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=46rom: Beatrice Beaubien

Chris Murtagh is poking around the web site

>hav u b!n unzubzkr!bd 4rom max-l +?

Yes.

>!f tzo were u not!f!ed +?

No.


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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh:

Mentioning what antiorp is up to as far as software and MAX goes is
perfectly acceptable.


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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh:
To:Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@rug.ac.be>

If you really feel that people need to hear antiorp's messages, post them up
in your living room and invite people there. Please don't bring it up
here.


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=46rom: Richard [Dudas] (a.k.a. Xoaz)
dudas@cnmat.berkeley.edu
dudas@ircam.fr
chong@cycling74.com

are we max-listers not allowed to mention =3Dcw4t7abs just because she has
been removed from the list??


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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh:


Reposting his messages or pseudo antiorp messages is not. [permitted]
(I'm very reasonable).


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=46rom: Adolf Hitler:

"final solution"


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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh:

The FINAL word. (I'm very reasonable).


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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh:

There is NO campaign period,(I'm very
reasonable).
the vote question is NOT to be debated on the list. (I'm very
reasonable).
Anyone posting propaganda one way or another[reasonable]
regarding this vote will be removed from the list immediately. (I'm very
reasonable).

.....

Christopher Murtagh
MAX listserv owner(I'm very reasonable).


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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh:

I really don't
give a shit what they say about free speech.

(I'm very reasonable).


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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh:

Your friendly digital murderer,(I'm very reasonable).

Chris


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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh:


I am not going to send you a written explanation for your permanent removal
from the max list.
It isn't worth the 10 cents [n]or my time. (I'm very reasonable).


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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh:

Anyone wanting details [about the "vote"] can email me
Christopher Murtagh <chris@MUSIC.MCGILL.CA>(I'm very reasonable).


**all requests to obtain the information have been ignored.

**all requests to obtain contact information of humane persons
at McGill University
have been ignored.


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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh:

=46or yourinfo, Guy is back on the list after ....


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=46rom: Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@rug.ac.be>

Hi,

After Richard Dudas' intervention I was subscribed again on the max list!
Maybe more people complained! Hope so...


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a. ver! ver! luvl!

ver! ver! luvl! Richard Dudas @cnmat.berkeley.eduircam.frcycling74.com
=3D tzo ver! ver! luvl!

ver! ver! unluvl! one chris@MUSIC.MCGILL.CA
=3D onl! komprehendzcnmat.berkeley.eduircam.frcycling74.com

1 @ 2
1 < 2
1 =3D 2


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united states of america - 1956

the u.s supreme court rules that bus segregation is unconstitutional


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united states of america - 1920

women win the right to vote


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britain - 1928

universal suffrage granted


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britain - 1952

alan turing is tried and convicted of gross indecency
`crime` - a homosexual relationship - a felony.
he was subjected to female hormones intended to dampen his lust.
"i.m growing breasts he told a friend"
on 06.1954 at 41 alan turing committed suicide by
consuming one apple laced with cyanide.


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united states of america - 1974

elaine noble becomes the first open lesbian to win state office


progresz =3D !nev!tabl

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Date:Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:59:54 -0400
=46rom:Jon Witte <jonwitte@CYBERNEX.NET>
Subject: Re: Antiorp, since you brought it up
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Antiorpes idiotic language alone should be enough
to get him kicked from this list,
...


I also believe that it is useless to write
in your own made up language that know can understand,
not to mention that it makes the search utility quite useless.


!nzert :a. one very literary missive.
the interminable elephantine bit stream of
artificial intelligence on the mcgill max forum

permit one one sentiment of unabridged and equally elephantine ine=

rtia

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http://m9ndfukc.com/kinematek

the relatively invariant unit is the social institution.


institutions are the commonly held patterns of behavior and habits of
thought of a routinised and durable nature that are associated with humans
interacting in a group or larger collectives. institutions enable ordered
thought and action by


imposing form and consistency on the activities of human beings


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Date:Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:59:43 -0500
=46rom:Bob Falesch <raf@INTERACCESS.COM>
Subject: Re: The inevitable has happened.

Why inevitable? Have you considered unsubscribing certain Opcode
personnel who have posted to this list? What's inevitable is that
those people are judged by different standards


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mcgill Max list -

On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, =3Dcw4t7abs wrote:
> > IMPORTANT: This list [mcgill Max list] is confidential.
> > You should not publicly mention its
> > existence, or forward copies of information
you have obtained from it t=
o
> > third parties.
>
>
> kould 1 plz klar!f! dze mean!ng ov abov +?


This is a good question, and actually I don't have the answer.
. . . . .

Christopher Murtagh


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Christopher Murtagh:

http://www.music.mcgill.ca/max/listpolicy.html

"There are a few rules that will be enforced.
Anyone breaking the following rules will receive a warning the first time,
and then be removed from the list for the second infraction:

....
references to Nazis, and/or other sickos (this is a long story).
offensive, pornographic, racist or bigoted postings"


"references to Nazis, and/or other sickos"banned

o the referenced paradox. the ironizing reference. the banned blasphemy.


Christopher Murtagh's"FINAL word"vsAdolf Hitler's"final solution=
"

o the referenced paradox. the ironizing reference. the portly blasphemy.


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Richard Dudas:
are we max-listers not allowed to mention =3Dcw4t7abs just because she has
been removed from the list??


"references to Nazis, and/or other sickos (this is a long story)"

perhaps Chris Murtagh has designated Netochka Nezvanova a Nazi and a sicko

dzn aga!n - Error is the mark of the higher organism. (this is a very long
story)"


The theory of computerization has provided a model for the system control
that equates contingency with noise. The ideal: to eliminate contingency
and maximize control by the system. The elimination of contingency here
points to the reprezentationality in KROP3ROM||A9FF of social currency.
Perhaps most relevant is the appearance
an outside 'democratic' society. Like the
multiplication of sites of power and resistance on the .net and currents in
modern politics and economic management, there seems an effort to
complicate the social and extricate it from the theoretical clutches of
analytic and dialectic reason. KROP3ROM||A9FF redefines noise structure as
a locus of contingency, absence of subject and linguistic uncertainty.


This work exemplifies certain issues brought about due to the emergence of
computerization. A powerful discourse in systems management, as complicated
and formulaic as Hesse's Glass Bead Game, and probably as vague.
......
it challenges the instability of digitization while remaining within the set


To: Guy Van Belle <Guy.VanBelle@rug.ac.be>
=46rom: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com

>how much stupidity can one swallow before one breaks?


1 terr0r ov dz!re =3D bkom!ng null!f!ed b!
repeatd ep!zodz ov !nart!kulatz!on ov eventz

z!m!lr 2 1 laborator! rat
hou man! t!mez kan 1 touch 1 elektr!f!ed gate

vakuoz z!lansz


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=46orwarded by:
Beatrice de Gasp=E9 Beaubien, PhD, DIC

'Error is the mark of the higher organism."


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=46rom: Christopher Murtagh:


The FINAL word. (I'm very reasonable).


heaven listen: earth lend an ear: the lord has spoken:

thus cried the prophets when their eyes gleaming and mouths foaming
they proclaimed punishment to liars and apostates for their sins.
thus spoke the church in the middle ages and mankind prostrate with fear
crossed itself at the voice of the pontiff and the injunctions of his bishop=
s.

_ ignorance or impotence _


we are driven to this. we are determined to go on with this agitation.
it is our duty to make this a better place for women. - emmeline pankhurst

the new ideologists of inequality may wish to komprehend
the fruits of the planet belong to all + the planet belongs to no one

patternz emerge out of low level randomness
the study of self organizing systems
=3D in a sense the related opposite of the study of chaos.

in self organizing systems orderly patterns
emerge out of low level randomness.
in chaotic systems unpredictable behaviour
emerges out of lower level deterministic rules.

inequality =3D conducive to chaos


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The music of the century we will soon be leaving is certainly not ivory
tower music.
=46ree from ideology and dogma and free from the iron grip of the market
(which has rendered most pop music harmless), it displays the same moving
laceration,
blinding playfulness,

calm beauty, deep despair,

shocking ugliness,
disturbing mysteriousness,
hilarious joyfulness
and
transporting
vitality,

in short the same maddening diversity as the

general history

of this century.'

noztalg!a 4 1 akadem!e : perm!t 1 rever!e

detektion of onset + offset asynchrony in multikomponent komplexes.
diskriminating standard stimulus from signal stimulus
audibility as crisis and kommodification in 8'|sin.x(2^n)

everdz!ng wh!ch =3D permeatez human zoz!et! =3D !nkurz kompresz!on + abrev!a=


z!on

data =3D korekt : humanz =3D !nkorekt

3 n k o u n t 3 r ! n g . 0 p 3 n. z p a s e z


k 0 n z ! d 3 r . w a ! t ! n g _____...... + ?


m9ndzkape - all thoughtz =3D=3D alread! prezent

;500


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l.amour. la ver!te. les nu!tz en lum!ere
and - closing the synaptic gap [synapse - greek for juncture
!n dze mathemat!kl 4mula a =3D b should not take dze s!gn =3D az dze kopula
- hence the juncture gap - protoplasmic kisses which seem to
+ b az pred!kat!v abr !nzrt dze kopula !z b4 dze pred!kat!v ekual 2 b.
constitute the final ecstasy of an epic love story
+ dzus read !t az mean!ng a =3D kompr!szd among dze poz!bl! zeverl objktz
- the ethereal kiss which involves no contact]
dzat =3D ekual 2 b whether ekual kannotez onl! kuant!tat!v ekual!t! odr

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ecztreme konz!l!at!on betw!n dze 2 termz dzat
tend 2 oppoze all verk!ng 2 dze benef!t ov 1 konfuz!ng
f!lozof! dze veLt ov real!t! - dze veLt ov dream


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