Subject: MAX Digest - 10 Jun 1999 (#1999-175)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:00:00 -0400
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Topics of the day:

  1. Karplus-Strong (2)
  2. Graphics- quasi Present Movie
  3. zum ersten mal
  4. MIDI to Text
  5. AMIII


Date:Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:47:18 -0700
From:Stefania Serafin <serafin@CCRMA.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Karplus-Strong

Neal asked:

> >
> >How would I make a classic Karplus-Strong resonator in MSP (short delay
> >line, feeding back via a low-pass filter)? Tapin/tapout works but has a
> >maximum fundamental of 689 Hz (at 44100 sampling, vectors size 64).

> There is one comprehensive Karplus-Strong application in the IRCAM Forum
> MSP application pack called MEKS.

MEKS implements a Karplus Strong, but the problem of the maximum
fundamental of 689Hz still exists.
The only way to avoid it is building an external that contains
all the elements of the Karplus
Strong algorithm (delay line + low pass filter) inside.
If you want I can send you a simple external that does it.



Date:Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:59:39 +0200
From:Maurizio Giri <m.giri@AGORA.STM.IT>
Subject: Re: Karplus-Strong

Stefania wrote:

>The only way to avoid it is building an external that contains
>all the elements of the Karplus
>Strong algorithm (delay line + low pass filter) inside.
>If you want I can send you a simple external that does it.

Yes Please!!!!



Date:Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:18:20 +0100
From:Adam Green <greena@TCD.IE>
Subject: Graphics- quasi Present Movie

Greetings Maxin folk,

I followed this thread with interest and have a couple of more queries to
add for anyone else trying simple quicktime stuff with Max.

Sending the 'fullscreen 1' message to 'thispatcher' is a way to 'quasi
Present Movie' (cmd-M in Quicktime) - it removes the menubar and allows for
good full screen projection.

I'm running the MAX/MSP bundle on a 8600/250 AV (OS 8.5.1), and want to
project the fullscreen quicktime from MAX on the 2nd Monitor/projector of a
dual video display (using one of the composite or S-video outputs). It
appears only to project fullscreen on RGB Monitor output, whereas in
Quicktime you have the option to 'Present Movie' on the 2nd Monitor.
Anyone else with a similar setup know if this is possible in MAX?

I've also noticed that a 384*286 movie (with audio) that plays fine in
Quicktime will crawl in MAX, even with loads of RAM assigned to MAX (i.e.
much more than the size of the movie itself).

Are there ways to improve MAXs' quicktime playback performance?
- Recommended codecs?
- Is it worth looking into video hardware acceleration such as a Miro card?
- Is there a more robust or up to date movie object (mine's dated 1/11/97)?
- Is Rokeby's movieplus object more robust? If so, where might I find it?
- Is it perhaps best to play back the audio and video separately?

Adam Green
Music and Media Technologies lab
Aras an Phiarsaigh
Trinity College Dublin
Dublin 2


Date:Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:00:14 -0800
From:Peter Nyboer <pnyboer@SIRIUS.COM>
Subject: Re: zum ersten mal


Yes, antiorp is back surprise, surprise--please, let's not get into all
that shit again. PLEASE resist the need to respond, or do so privately,
but YOU KNOW DAMN WELL if you try to come up with some clever or
intelligent response, you will get one back, and it will fill up the digest
with lots of mysterious ascii manifestoes (sp?) and controversies. We all
know that he's a hotmail account away from posting on the list, so
"filtering" him out really can't work for long.
Personally, I don't mind his posts,and I'm excited about the new object he
described. However, it is clear that the members of the list don't really
like him, and it is clear he won't go away. Just don't add fuel to the
fire, and let's talk about the capabilities of what sounds like a really
great Quicktime object, rather than try to defend
draconian-nazi-NATO-technowest evil.



Peter Nyboer
"Where the land meets the hand"


Date:Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:36:22 EDT
Subject: Re: MIDI to Text

In a message dated 6/8/99 20:04:33, Alex Noyes wrote:

>Anyone know of a easy (or perhaps not so easy) way to convert a MIDIfile
type 1
>(multitrack format) with 32 tracks into a text file so it can be edited and
>by the mtr object? Or even better an object that plays multitrack midi files
>the ability to mute individual tracks (not just channels)...

Use Filein to open the MIDI file and clock all the data out into a Text
object. You can use sprintf %X to print it all as Hex. It is a good idea to
cut and paste from the MAX text file into a text editor. At least then you'd
have simple stuff like "undo", woefully lacking in the MAX text window.


Date:Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:59:30 -0700
From:Peter Elsea <elsea@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject: AMIII

>Someone mentioned this combo had worked well for well? I'm not
>sure whether I want to go for the whole PTIII deal or just AMIII and I
>could use some many oscillators, etc...

Ona 350 Mhz G3 (blue) the AMIII has a latency of 2073 samples or 47 ms.
64 cycle~ objects take up 40% of the CPU- but that's not a function of the

It's a nice sounding card when you use its converters, and it has SPDIF
either way.
The Pro Tools Mac Tools package is a good buy, giving you the AMIII, PT and
Peak with some useful plugins for about what the AMIII sells for alone.

Some of the other cards may be cheaper and just as good.
Peter Elsea
Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz


End of MAX Digest - 10 Jun 1999 (#1999-175)