Subject: MAX Digest - 3 Jun 1999 to 4 Jun 1999 (#1999-168)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 00:00:06 -0400
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Topics of the day:

  1. Off topic: Thanks for your help
  2. Movieplus timing
  3. Autorizing MAX
  4. 3.5.9-8question
  5. bug in fpict (68K)?
  6. Newertech G3 Upgrade
  7. buffer clear not working!
  8. Graphics- quasi Present Movie
  9. <No subject given>


Date:Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:12:23 +0000
From:Pablo Silva <hpsilva@SERVIDOR.UNAM.MX>
Subject: Off topic: Thanks for your help

Hello again

Just wanted to thank all of you who took time to answer to my last post
asking for help. It was all very helpful and enlightening.

Pablo Silva


Date:Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:09:04 +0000
From:dominic robson <dominic_robson@BIGFOOT.COM>
Subject: Movieplus timing

I am presently using David Rokeby's Movieplus object for a small app to cut
up and manipulate small pieces of video in real time.

The object so far has proved very adept at dealing with the clips: looping,
speed changes etc. One problem however is that when looping it doesnt play
the first couple of frames of the beginning. This can be avoided by using
stop and start each time to play a clip but means loosing the convenience
of the looping function, one of the the reasons I moved to using movieplus
in the first place.

Does anybody know of any other 'get round's. Ive allocated the patch enough
memory to be able to load all the clips into i dont think its a
memory thing.

Any insight much appreciated

Dominic Robson


Date:Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:11:58 +0200
From:"Dr. Karlheinz Essl" <essl@EUNET.AT>
Subject: Re: Autorizing MAX

Thanks to Peter Elsea for his report:

> To authorize Max on a BluG3 you need:
> An Imation superdrive
> USBSuperDiskDriver1_31 from the Imation web site
> USB Floppy Enabler Installer from the Pace web site
> Probably a post system 8 version of MAX installer (but maybe not, it seems
> to be a matter of luck)

Do you think that this also works for the new G3 PowerBooks (mocca)? Is it
also possible to use a LaCie USB-Floppy-Drive instead of the Imation

--- Karlheinz

Dr. Karlheinz Essl - Composer
Vienna / Austria
Studio for Advanced Music & Media Technology


Date:Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:14:29 -0400
From:Neal Farwell <nfarwell@FAS.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject: 3.5.9-8question

I just downloaded the Max 3.5.9 - 8 update...

There was a mention on this list of slow-down problems with this update.

Should I install? What is new?

Current Max version "3.5.9 - 9 December 1997", Created "Jan 3 1998",
Modified "Oct 22 1998", (and MSP - just bought it!) under OS 8.1 on an




Date:Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:45:54 -0400
From:Alejandro Cremaschi <cremasch@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU>
Subject: bug in fpict (68K)?

Hello. I've been experiencing a strange problem with the fpict object.

I'm using Max68K 3.5.8.

I create a fpict object and load a .pict file into it. I drag the graphic
to, say, offsets x=1 and y=68 using the Shift-Command and the Mouse.
Everything looks great, just the way I want it. I save the patch and close
the window. Now, when I reopen the patch, voila!, the graphic is magically
placed at offset x=68 y=1 (the coordinates have been swapped!!?). This
never fails... I tried different sizes of fpict objects, different .pict
files. When I reopen the patch, there are new offset values...

I tried the same thing on a PPC using MaxFAT 3.5.8. Everything works OK

Am I doing something wrong? Is there something I'm not aware of? Is this a
bug? I'll appreciate any comment.

Thank you.


Date:Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:34:11 +0100
From:Lawrence Casserley <leo@CHILTERN.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Newertech G3 Upgrade

>Did anyone respond to Lawrence Casserley on the question of the new Newer
>Tech 466MHz
>I would like to buy the card fairly soon so I'd be very interested to know :)
>BTW- If anyone is selling a G3 266MHz,UK only,....please let me know.

Well - I finally installed it last Sunday and it seems to be working OK -
I appear to be getting around 70% increase on average - that is by
comparing CPU usage figures in the status window, which is presumably not
exactly accurate, as there are sytem overheads in there which will not be
increased when you increase the size of the actual MAX program. I will
try to get some better figures together.

The only problem I had was that the first one delivered had a loose
heatsink and had to be sent back - but UK distributors AM Micro were very
helpful - although they were out of stock and had to get another one from
the US specially - otherwise installation is easy (except that getting my
Mac out of its flight case involves undoing 20 screws!!).

I will let you know how I get on, but not immediately as I go on holiday



Lawrence Electronic Operations - Tel +44 1494 481381 - FAX +44 1494 481454
Signal Processing for Contemporary Music - email


Date:Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:58:11 +0100
From:david stevens <david@RESONANT.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: buffer clear not working!

hi all,

for some reason sending [clear] to buffer~ no longer works! I've just run the
msp6.1 updater, so i don't know if that has anything to do with it. Not even the
help files buffer will clear, so it's not something strange in my patch. can
anyone with the latest update confirm this?
is there a fix (David)?




Date:Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:14:30 +0100
From:Rob Godman <rob.godman@VIRGIN.NET>
Subject: Graphics- quasi Present Movie

Dear all,
This is potentially a simple question but having read the relavant bits
of Max manuals and Todd Winklers book I seem to have hit a blank.
As part of a future project, involving evolving acoustic spaces, I'm
planning to allow the listener to control their own acoustic space of a
pre-defined sound source (which will be my own composition). In this
example, I want them to be able to do this by moving a mouse on a
computer screen (the same computer will show a graphic and have Max
running in the background).
The Max programming side of this is all fine but........
The graphics window. It's simple enough to make the window cover the
entire screen (and hence the workings of the Max patch).
Is it possible to cover the menu bar at the top? Making the graphic
window larger makes the graphic go underneath the menu bar. Isn't there
an Apple shortcut to remove this bar and get it back again?
I want the viewer to have control of the co-ordinates via the mouse
only. I don't want want them to see (or get into) anything else- the
keyboard won't be available to them.
Really, what I'm after is the same as the 'present movie' function in
Movie Player. Is there a 'present graphic' somehow within Max?
Perhaps a few steps down the road- has anyone used Max and MSP within
Director or similar? Is it possible?
Following on......
What are the practical implications/possibilities of posting a real time
project on the Web (as a MaxPlay feature). Would the license allow for
this as MaxPlay is 'free'? Are there many such sites around? Addresses
Many thanks,

Rob Godman

4 Mill Close Wotton-under-Edge Gloucestershire GL12 7LP United Kingdom
T. (44) 01453 521895
F. (44) 01453 844447

For more information (if slightly out of date......)


Date:Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:20:14 -0700
From:Peter Elsea <elsea@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject: <No subject given>

>On my aging Performa 6320, ...there's a noticeable skipping in the
>playback ... How would I go about >recording/saving the fortuitous results
>of this skipping, short of making an analog recording from my
>speakers, as my analog recording equipment is limited at present to a pocket
>cassette recorder? Some of the skips make quite lovely percussive sounds...

Analog is the only way to go, since fixing your setup would fix the skips.
Try to patch from the back of your Mac to that cassette thingy.

>I'm guessing that
>since playback alone is already overtaxing my poor 112MHz processor....
It doesn't have to be this way (I have a stack of 60Mhz Quadras that play
just fine) once you've captured the sound, try defragging your hard drive.
Norton speeddisk works nicely (but don't unleash any of that other Norton
stuff on your machine.)
Peter Elsea

Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz


End of MAX Digest - 3 Jun 1999 to 4 Jun 1999 (#1999-168)