Subject: MAX Digest - 3 Jun 1999 (#1999-167)
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There are 8 messages totalling 285 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. bgate,lgate etc. bug fix
  2. listToSymbol bug fix
  3. Some light
  4. bluG3 (2)
  5. pace=crap, but there is hope.. (2)
  6. Playback skip and the music of failure

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Date:Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:47:27 -0400
From:Stephen Kay <sk@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: bgate,lgate etc. bug fix

Hello Maxers,

The stack overflow problems have been fixed in the optimized
gates collection. The latest version can be downloaded at:

http://www.musikinetix.com/Download/Download.html

If someone at IRCAM wishes to put this version on their site,
please do so.

Please note that this has been stuffed with version 5.0 of
Stuff-it. I believe that there has been a format change, so
you may need the latest (free) version of Stuff-it Expander
(and why not get it anyway?) version 5.1.2 is available at:

http://www.aladdinsys.com/expander/index.html

--------------- the bug, for inquiring minds:
bgate, lgate, and sgate use a proxy for the second inlet,
since they receive messages other than ints and floats.
Proxies do not know when messages come in the leftmost
inlet, so if a message coming in the second inlet sends
out a message which causes immediate input at the first
inlet, the object thinks that the message came in the
second inlet (since the proxy has not yet finished
executing the first instruction), and you get an infinite
loop. Bug fix: set your inletnum locator to "0" manually
before sending out any messages which may cause input
at the first inlet.

Stephen Kay
The MegaMAX Collection of professional, development oriented Max objects:=

http://www.musikinetix.com

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Date:Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:47:30 -0400
From:Stephen Kay <sk@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: listToSymbol bug fix

Hello Maxers,


A new version of listToSymbol is available, which fixes a
problem with multiple instances of the same symbol. The
latest version can be downloaded at:

http://www.musikinetix.com/Download/Download.html

If someone at IRCAM wishes to put this version on their site,
please do so.

Please note that this has been stuffed with version 5.0 of
Stuff-it. I believe that there has been a format change, so
you may need the latest (free) version of Stuff-it Expander
(and why not get it anyway?) version 5.1.2 is available at:

http://www.aladdinsys.com/expander/index.html

--------------------What is listTosymbol?

Convert lists of many items into a single symbol. Remove
spaces between items, or substitute another character or
symbol as separators. It will take a list of items (ints,
floats, symbols, or any mixture) and spit it back out as
a single symbol. You can have it remove spaces
(i.e. so "I'm Not An Animal" becomes "I'mNotAnAnimal"). You
can change the separator (default =3D space) to any other
character or symbol (i.e. so "link these words" becomes
"link_these_words"). Furthermore, listToSymbol is interrupt
level safe and will not cause any memory allocation, unlike
sprintf. Uses include creating pathnames from many symbols,
or formatting text for objects which require single symbol
input. =


Stephen Kay
The MegaMAX Collection of professional, development oriented Max objects:=

http://www.musikinetix.com

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Date:Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:00:19 -0700
From:Peter Elsea <elsea@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject: Some light

>Do not panic. Load Max/MSP and power-on your DAT
>after, it will solve it. My Sony 57ES also looses S/P-DIF matching
>every time MSP loads.
>Can someone put some light on this subject?

The settings for the AMiii card are kept in a preferences file called
digisetup. You can't access this file directly, but it is modified by
Degidesign applications when you change hardware setups, and by MSP in a
sort of indirect manner.
It's important to remember that two applications can't both use the card at
once- if you have MSP running and try to launch Pro Tools, it will tell you
that the AMIII is in use. MSP has marked the digisetup file...

If you try to launch Sound Designer when MSP is up, SD may forget the AMIII
exists at all, and never use it again until you hunt through the hardware
slot options.
If you attempt to launch MSP when Pro Tools is running, there will be an
msp error -1600. This one may necessitate reinstalling the digiINIT to get
output back.

If MSP crashes (what! never!) the digisetup file will be corrupted- the
usual symptom of this is loss of digital input or output. The cure is to


routinely toss digisetup (and empty trash, for other reasons) after every
crash.
You can't switch AMIII to digital input from MSP (at least I haven't
figured out how) but if you switch using Pro Tools MSP will use that input
next time up.

Another vital setting in PT is sync source. If you are using a digital
input, then sync should also be digital, or you may hear pops in the input
audio.
Normally, if the snyc is set to digital and there is no digital input,
there should be no output (in PT you get a DAE eror), but there is, so
aparently MSP is switching sync to internal. (The SPDIF waveform definitely
hiccups when MSP comes up) That means if you have devices connected to the
output that are synced to a studio wordclock master, they may not read the
SPDIF from the AMIII when using MSP. (Are there enough acronyms in this
paragraph?) David can shed a brighter light on this.
Some devices are very fussy about their SPDIF. In particular, some consumer
DATs won't recognize SPDIF at 44.1. If msp is setting the data rate at
44.1, even briefly, a deck may refuse to lock on.
Peter Elsea
Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz
http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/index.html
elsea@cats.ucsc.edu

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Date:Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:23:43 -0700
From:Peter Elsea <elsea@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject: bluG3

>After combing through old Max digests and not finding the answer...Is it
>possible to authorize Max on a BluG3 without buying the new bundle? I
>currently have Max on a 7300, but want to transfer it to a BluG3 in order
>to get the most out of a soon to be purchased MSP. Is there any hope?

To authorize Max on a BluG3 you need:

An Imation superdrive
USBSuperDiskDriver1_31 from the Imation web site
USB Floppy Enabler Installer from the Pace web site
Probably a post system 8 version of MAX installer (but maybe not, it seems
to be a matter of luck)

To get MIDI out you need
a GeeThree Stealth Modem to serial adaptor (finally showing up in stores)
OMS 2.3.6

To make AMIII work with msp you need
Msp updater 6.1
DigiINIT 3.4.2
Maybe G3 Firmware update 1.1 from Apple (may be included in System 8.6,
which is not required but a good idea)

Toss together and stir for about two hours under a medium flame.
Peter Elsea
Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz
http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/index.html
elsea@cats.ucsc.edu

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Date:Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:05:32 PDT
From:v a u g h n <inspireveryone@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: pace=crap, but there is hope..


>>was that authorizing thing ever sorted out?


ok, here's the fix for the blue G3 after many hours of toiling and product
returning. until opcode implements a challenge/response scheme, you need to
buy a nevertechnologies, uDrive. the superdisk that opcode recomends
doesn't work (even with updates). then proceed to pace's site and get a
copy of the usb floppy updater extension. not the one that is on opcode's
site. that version didn't work for me.

good luck,
vaughn


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Date:Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:06:13 PDT
From:v a u g h n <inspireveryone@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: pace=crap, but there is hope..

>>was that authorizing thing ever sorted out?


ok, here's the fix for the blue G3 after many hours of toiling and product
returning. until opcode implements a challenge/response scheme, you need to
buy a nevertechnologies, uDrive. the superdisk that opcode recommends
doesn't work (even with updates). then proceed to pace's site and get a
copy of the usb floppy updater extension. not the one that is on opcode's
site. that version didn't work for me.

good luck,
vaughn


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Date:Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:55:42 -0700
From:Alex Stahl <alex@PIXAR.COM>
Subject: Re: bluG3

>you need to
>buy a nevertechnologies, uDrive. the superdisk that opcode recomends
>doesn't work (even with updates). then proceed to pace's site and get a
>copy of the usb floppy updater extension

The Imation superdisk works for me with its 1.31 driver and the floppy
enabler from Pace.
The geethree Stealth Serial Port works too, with the serial object as well
as MIDI (of course not at the same time).

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Date:Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:03:08 -0700
From:Taylor Brady <cartograffiti@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Playback skip and the music of failure

Apologies for the somewhat off-topic post, but I couldn't think of a better
place to send this novice digital recording question:

On my aging Performa 6320, when I back large soundfiles in one of the common
graphic editor window / playback apps (SoundEdit, usually, but it happens


with all of 'em), there's a noticeable skipping in the playback which
increases in both frequency and magnitude as the file size increases.
Leaving the graphic window visible in a processor-intensive "detailed"
representation of the wave tends to increase this "problem."

So my question is this: How would I go about recording/saving the fortuitous
results of this skipping, short of making an analog recording from my
speakers, as my analog recording equipment is limited at present to a pocket
cassette recorder? Some of the skips make quite lovely percussive sounds,
whose timbre depends on a combination of the original soundfile's timbral /
rhythmic characteristics and the severity of the skip. I'm guessing that
since playback alone is already overtaxing my poor 112MHz processor,
recording direct from internal AV isn't really an option. Any help with this
would be greatly appreciated.

Taylor Brady

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