Subject: MAX Digest - 27 Apr 1999 to 28 Apr 1999 (#1999-129)
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There are 9 messages totalling 319 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. G3 upgrades (2)
  2. better lcd object (3)
  3. Rename item in menubar object (2)
  4. multiple KORG 1212 ?
  5. sfinfo~ & stereo aiff

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Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:25:58 -0800
From:    anechoic audio engine 
Subject: Re: G3 upgrades

Lawrence
I've been running a Power Computing  Power Center 120 with a Powerlogix
Powerforce G3 400 MHz board and Max/MSP runs fine on it...I haven't tested
all of my audio apps but *most* (not all) of them work fine...
KIM

__________________________
kim.cascone
sound.designer...composer

kim@anechoicmedia.com
http://www.anechoicmedia.com

Out Now:
                blueCube( ) (Rastermusic)
                nb2e_Vortex.aiff (Mille Plateaux)
                vortexShedding (Caipirinha Music)

"the medium is no longer the message, the tool has become the message"

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Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:57:24 EDT
From:    Bob Ostertag 
Subject: better lcd object

I too am interested in a better lcd object.  in particular, one with an
adjustable "tail," that is, as you moved the mouse, a trail of definable
length or time would be left on the screen, instead of all drawing movements
staying there until they were cleared...

Bob Ostertag

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Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:59:58 +0100
From:    david stevens 
Subject: Re: G3 upgrades

hi Lawrence,

> Has anyone had any experience with Newer Technology products, and/or
> other upgrade cards?
> Are there any hidden snags I should know about?
>

I had a NewerTech upgrade card in my old 7600 (200mHz card).The only problem
i
appeared to have with it was that HyperEngine from Arboretum didn't work
properly (the cursor tended to disappear over the blue window) - though
there
was some discussion as to whether the problem was due to the card, or the
additional video card i had installed. I would tend to think the latter, but
basically Arboretum wouldn't guarantee that their software would work with
third
party processor boards.
None of my other software had any apparent problems though (vst,peak,
soundmaker
etc); but I should also mention that i didn't run msp on that machine. Can't
see
that there should be any problems though.

david

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Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:14:22 +0200
From:    Peter Swinnen 
Subject: Re: better lcd object

Gordon Adams wrote

>if anyone has developed a more sophisticated
>variation of the lcd (a more comprehensive quickdraw command set, refresh
>options, etc.)  Suggestions?

Sounds as if my object udraw could be helpful here: does all lcd does +
proper refresh, all quickdraw commands, saving to disk (PICT-file) etc.

You can check it out at my website:

http://www.ping.be/peterswinnen/

It is also on the last Ircam Forum CD, but has been updated meanwhiles
(as have a lot of my other objects too), especially for better working in
Overdrive and on 68k machines, apart from several bug fixes.
Documentation has been improved also.

Happy Maxing,

Peter Swinnen
http://www.ping.be/peterswinnen/
mailto:peter.swinnen@ping.be

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Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:38:44 +0000
From:    Steve Smith 
Subject: Rename item in menubar object

Does anyone know how to:
1) underline a particular character of an item in the menubar object?
2) rename an item using a input message to the menubar object
3) send a keyboard commane to open one of the menus?

or

FIND a complete list of commands to the obect.

With thanks

Steve Smith

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Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:14:48 +0100
From:    Hans Tutschku 
Subject: multiple KORG 1212 ?

Dear Maxers,

would it be possible to access multiple Korg 1212 cards in one computer
from MSP.
What would be the dac~ numbers?

Thanks, Hans

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Hans Tutschku
http://www.multimania.com/hanstutschku

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Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:16:53 +0100
From:    david stevens 
Subject: sfinfo~ & stereo aiff

hi all,

here's an assumption that I've made...

if i [open] a stereo aiff file with sfinfo~ it treats it as a 2-track file
and
outputs the integer 2 from its first outlet.

except that it actually outputs [1]. And [sfplay~ 2] only outputs audio from
output no. 1.
so maybe i'm wrong?
if so - how do i get a stereo file to play as such with sfplay~, and get
sfinfo~
to report it as stereo?

thanks

david

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Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:21:36 -0400
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: Rename item in menubar object

>1) underline a particular character of an item in the menubar object?
>2) rename an item using a input message to the menubar object
>3) send a keyboard commane to open one of the menus?
>or
>FIND a complete list of commands to the obect.

Try the 3.5 Manual.

It sounds like you are trying to achieve windoz like menus, with a
character underlined, whereby you can select the menu/menu item.
AFAIK, this will be impossible to do.  You can assign command keys,
though, to individual items (pg. 245).

As far as renaming a menu item, a workaround is to have 2 menubar objects=
,
with some items different, and switch between them.  This does work.

Stephen Kay

The MegaMAX Collection of professional UI objects and others:
http://www.musikinetix.com

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Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:48:40 -0700
From:    Alex Stahl 
Subject: Re: better lcd object

At 11:57 PM -0700 4/27/99, Bob Ostertag wrote:
>I too am interested in a better lcd object.  in particular, one with an
>adjustable "tail," that is, as you moved the mouse, a trail of definable
>length or time would be left on the screen, instead of all drawing
movements
>staying there until they were cleared...

Here's a little patch that tries to coax this behavior out of the existing
lcd object, by storing all drawing commands sent to the lcd and then
resending them after a delay, with the color argument changed to the
background color. It works well enough for a simple x-y path (perhaps a
spatialization control) over a plain background where you want to see a
little history of the path.

It doesn't work so well if the path crosses itself a lot or if the
background is complicated by other graphics. In that case, a better
approach might involve setting the lcd drawing mode to Xor (penMode 2, I
think) and resending the exact same commands after a delay (no color arg).
The effect of eXclusive-OR drawing is to invert the pixel values rather
than replace them with a new solid color. Inverting twice gets you back
where you started, so repeating an xor command should restore whatever was
underneath. You have to avoid overlapping original commands in this mode to
get a clean line, and I can't say I've spent much time trying this in Max
yet, but it's an old trick...the "busy" cursor in Soundhack is one cool
example.

In any case, I too am using a lot of lcd's, and sometimes wonder where all
my CPU cycles are going.

-Alex Stahl

max v2;
#N vpatcher 87 90 563 613;
#P comment 307 395 137 196617 2) then erase it after a delay \, by
redrawing the line in the background color.;
#P message 174 56 26 196617 500;
#P newex 302 310 27 196617 int;
#P newex 343 310 27 196617 int;
#P newex 302 340 66 196617 pack i i i i i;
#P newex 300 280 40 196617 t i b i;
#P newex 344 280 40 196617 t i b i;
#P message 302 363 145 196617 LineSegment \$1 \$2 \$3 \$4 256;
#P newex 170 277 40 196617 t i b i;
#P newex 126 277 40 196617 t i b i;
#P newex 128 337 53 196617 pack i i i i;
#P newex 169 307 27 196617 int;
#P newex 128 307 27 196617 int;
#P newex 230 225 38 196617 unpack;
#P number 317 93 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P newex 344 257 27 196617 pipe;
#P newex 300 257 27 196617 pipe;
#P message 128 361 145 196617 LineSegment \$1 \$2 \$3 \$4 255;
#P message 128 56 38 196617 local 0;
#P newex 128 30 45 196617 loadbang;
#P user LCD 128 84 181 129;
#P comment 325 78 55 196617 trail delay;
#P comment 138 398 111 196617 1) draw a path (this is similar to "local 1"
freehand drawing but the commands are explicit \, so they can be
manipulated);
#P comment 306 439 124 196617 (note LineSegment doesn't seem to draw in
white with color=0 \, but does with color=256 ?);
#P comment 6 84 100 196617 lcd "trails" example;
#P comment 6 120 100 196617 draw in the lcd while saying wow \, man. (it's
all in the pipe object.);
#P connect 5 0 12 0;
#P connect 6 0 7 0;
#P connect 6 0 24 0;
#P connect 7 0 5 0;
#P fasten 8 0 5 0 133 387 116 387 116 75 133 75;
#P connect 9 0 20 0;
#P connect 10 0 19 0;
#P connect 11 0 9 1;
#P fasten 11 0 10 1 322 242 366 242;
#P connect 23 0 21 0;
#P fasten 18 0 5 0 307 387 116 387 116 75 133 75;
#P connect 12 0 16 0;
#P connect 12 1 17 0;
#P connect 12 0 9 0;
#P connect 12 1 10 0;
#P connect 13 0 15 0;
#P connect 14 0 15 1;
#P connect 15 0 8 0;
#P connect 16 1 13 0;
#P connect 16 0 13 1;
#P connect 16 2 15 2;
#P connect 17 1 14 0;
#P fasten 17 2 15 3 205 331 175 331;
#P connect 17 0 14 1;
#P connect 22 0 21 1;
#P connect 21 0 18 0;
#P connect 20 1 23 0;
#P connect 20 0 23 1;
#P connect 20 2 21 2;
#P connect 19 1 22 0;
#P fasten 19 2 21 3 379 334 349 334;
#P connect 19 0 22 1;
#P fasten 24 0 11 0 179 75 322 75;
#P pop;

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