Subject: MAX Digest - 4 Apr 1999 to 5 Apr 1999 (#1999-106)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:00:02 -0400
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There are 5 messages totalling 190 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. good ol' Max bug
  2. PowerBooks for Chicago concert - please help!
  3. Bomb and MSP.3
  4. IRCAM: off topic
  5. Bomb and MSP.4

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Date:    Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:09:08 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: good ol' Max bug

Peter Castine  writes:

>I seem to remember having written some optimistic stuff not all so long
>ago about how there was no good reason to expect Max' revision numbers to
>top off at 3.5.something. I still don't see a _good_ reason for Max to
>stagnate where it is--there are no lack of wishes for new/better/more
>robust features.

Ah, industry-specific terms produce a misunderstanding. An "update"
is a free collection of bug fixes.

At some point, one decides there has been enough bug fixing
and it's time to something new, which is called an "upgrade."

The last "upgrade" to Max was in late 1996. It's time to move
on from 3.5, and the only way this will happen is to concentrate
on new development for a few months. Temporary stagnation,
long-term viability.

David Z.

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Date:    Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:26:20 +0200
From:    "Dr. Karlheinz Essl" 
Subject: PowerBooks for Chicago concert - please help!

Dear MAXers!

Please excuse this off topic posting...

On Sunday April 18th I will perform my MAX-based piece "Champ d'Action"
with Ensemble Noamnesia at the Chicago Cultural Center.

        http://www.essl.at/concerts/projects/chicago99.html

For this piece, several Apple PowerBooks are required which serve basically
as a flexible notation media: The musicians do not reproduce parts of a
fixed score. Instead of playing a pre-fabricated text from note sheets,
they are viewing computer monitors which display playing instructions on
the fly. The musicians are improvising those structures according to the
given parameters.

        http://www.essl.at/works/champ.html

Can somebody from the Chicago area help me supplying Apple PowerBooks? It
can also be one of the old models with an 68030/40 CPU like the PowerBook
190 or similar. We would need the computers on Friday April 16th and also
on the day of the concert on Sunday April 18th.

All nice souls who are willing and able to help are requested to contact me
privately at:

        mailto:essl@eunet.at

Thanks in advance and cheers,

   Dr. Karlheinz Essl - Composer
   Vienna / Austria
   Studio for Advanced Music & Media Technology
   http://www.essl.at/

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Date:    Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:37:46 +1000
From:    Garth Paine 
Subject: Re: Bomb and MSP.3

Hi Scott and David,

>David Z sent me a rsrc file to include that he said would fix this.  i
>rebuilt the object and made a new release; you can pick it up on the
>web site (http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~spot/bomb.html).

Excellent, will download straight away.

>>  When Bomb is the front window, all the control mechanisms no longer
>> work in the MAX patch.
>
>i guess this is because bomb takes the keystrokes for its own use.
>i'll look into a way to disable this.

and David Z wrote

>The frontmost window in Max gets keyboard events. If the
>window chooses not to process them, they should be available
>to the "key" object. I will work with Scott to provide a
>way to disable the keyboard input to bomb.

OK, so that should mean when the key commands are diabled in the MAX BOMB
object, that I should be able to send key command to Bomb even when I have
Bomb filling the entire screen and cant see any other windowns from MAX
which would therefore be in the background - I assume this also means that
I can send serial messages to the Machine running the Max Bomb patch and
they will also be dealt with in the background.  It would also be cool if
there was a version of Bomb that would take serial commands so I could run
it one a different machine and therefore devote the entire CPU to
generating the images - this would be particuarly good if I was running MSP
and doing lots of sound generation in Max.

Cheers,

Garth

See information about my new immersive interactive sound installations
http://creativeaccess.com.au/~garth/

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. Composer, Sound Designer
.. Interactives Designer
... Interactive Installation Artist
.... Exhibition Consultant
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Date:    Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:40:17 -0400
From:    Tommy DOG 
Subject: IRCAM: off topic

Anyone able to actually reach IRCAM?
I've been trying to renew my subscription for over a month.
If anyone can contact their sys. admit and tell them that I've been
blacklisted, my guess is by mistake please do do.

If anyone, especially Sylvie sees this note: HELP.

It's very annoying when you just want to renew and you can't.
Another week like this and I'm joing antiorp's forum (yes, it's got it's
own forum) and I bet the software is damn good.

TD

Sorry about the off topic thing.

"Death To The Dumb, Curses Upon The Heads Of The Weird"
 Tommy DOG: Subverting technology in the name of ART
              http://www.tommydog.com/

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Date:    Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:53:15 +1000
From:    Garth Paine 
Subject: Re: Bomb and MSP.4

Further to my last posting,

>i guess this is because bomb takes the keystrokes for its own use.
>i'll look into a way to disable this.

it would also be useful if the mouse input could be used in MAX, so that I
could set up X/Y co-ordinates to trigger certain MSP functions - again this
would need to be possible when Bomb was filling the screen and was the
front window.

Cheers,

Garth

See information about my new immersive interactive sound installations
http://creativeaccess.com.au/~garth/

,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.
. Composer, Sound Designer
.. Interactives Designer
... Interactive Installation Artist
.... Exhibition Consultant
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,

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