Subject: MAX Digest - 25 Mar 1999 to 26 Mar 1999 (#1999-96)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:00:10 -0500
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Topics of the day:

  1. MAX Digest - 24 Mar 1999 to 25 Mar 1999 - Special issue (#1999-94)
  2. a suggestion
  3. Matrix Solutions etc..
  4. Re : Matrix Solutions etc.
  5. q: DSP Status Window
  6. telnet
  7. MAX Digest - 21 Mar 1999 to 22 Mar 1999 (#1999-91)
  8. Matrix-Mixer
  9. FTP software
 10. Switchers
 11. Sensorband tour, northeast u.s. (2)
 12. Max/MSP night school at CNMAT, July 12-16

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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:15:11 +0100
From:    hollek 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 24 Mar 1999 to 25 Mar 1999 - Special issue
(#1999-94)

>hello fellow maxers!
>
>Is there anyone of you who have experience with different matrix/cuelist
>solutions for distribution of sound? This means true 16X16 matrixes or
>larger. What I am concerned about is ease of use, individual panning of
>a number of sounds, reliability,interfacing, and ability to switch
>between different preprogrammed "shows".
>If anyone would give me his/her opinion about such systems, it would be
>highly appreciated.
>Best Regards!

ooops -
I=B4m just starting to give it a try using only max and two Motu 2408

and hope it=B4ll work someday

has anybody tried it before ?

thanks , m.

Matthias Schneider-Hollek
Heusteigstr. 44
70180 Stuttgart
ms@digital-masters.de
hollek@stuttgart.netsurf.de

phone xx-711-6070780
fax xx-711-6070783
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http://www.digital-masters.de
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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:21:35 -0500
From:    Jeremy Bernstein 
Subject: a suggestion

It occurs to me that there is a very useful function missing from MSP,
which is that it seems impossible to import predefined soundfile regions as
cues in sflist~, or sfplay~.  Since MSP and Max have no built in ability to
display sound files, and easily define regions as cues (I've been able to
patch this functionality together with an awkward combination of ichi's
hranger and some bubble gum), this basic import feature would allow us to
define cues in a program more suited for the task.  On the other hand, if
you wanted to make MAX/MSP more suited to the task, that would be OK too.

If anyone knows how to do what I'm describing, please let me know.

Jeremy

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is updated daily at http://www.bootsquad.com/1999.html

PGP public key available from http://pgpkeys.mit.edu

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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:55:10 +0100
From:    Sukandar Kartadinata 
Subject: Re: Matrix Solutions etc..

>ooops -
>I=B4m just starting to give it a try using only max and two Motu 2408
>
>and hope it=B4ll work someday
>
>has anybody tried it before ?

hmmm, 2 MOTUs - that'd be 48x48 then, right ?
so, by my book:
48x48x48000kHz =3D 110,592,000 multiply-adds per second
with roughly 4 instruction cycles needed (memory access!) per multiply-add
that'd require at least a 450MHz processor just for the mixing, i.e. not
counting I/O, MAX, msp, MacOS, etc.

on that occassion: could you check DSP load for a 48 channel thru patch ?
thanks, Sukandar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sukandar Kartadinata
Custom Music Technology
Hagenauerstr. 6, 10435 Berlin, 030-44051219
http://members.xoom.com/Sukandar/
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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:31:07 +0100
From:    Roald Baudoux 
Subject: Re : Matrix Solutions etc.

Sven Erga wrote :

>Is there anyone of you who have experience with different
matrix/cuelist
>solutions for distribution of sound? This means true 16X16 matrixes or
>larger. What I am concerned about is ease of use, individual panning of

>a number of sounds, reliability,interfacing, and ability to switch
>between different preprogrammed "shows".

Hi Sven.

I am currently trying to get information about audio matrixes too.

The best ones seem to come from LCS (www.lcsaudio.com).

Also check the AudioBox from Richmond Sound Design
(http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/hfi/dm16.htm) and the Cosmix or the
Switchblade from Sound Sculpture (www.soundsculpture.com).

If anybody has experienced these products for sound installations or
other purposes, please let me know!

Roald Baudoux
Journalist, composer, teacher.

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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:43:13 +0100
From:    "Dr. Karlheinz Essl" 
Subject: Re: q: DSP Status Window

Kim Cascone  asked:

> does anyone know if there is a key combo that opens the DSP Status window?

To my knowledge there is no shortcut, but I just hacked a small patch which
actually does what you want. Anyway, you have to edit the "select" argument
to the number code of the desired key.

max v2;
#N vpatcher 50 40 386 202;
#P number 24 58 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P newex 24 80 55 196617 select 113;
#P newex 24 36 27 196617 key;
#P message 24 104 61 196617 \; dsp status;
#P comment 83 83 201 196617 < put in the number code of the desired key;
#P comment 54 39 251 196617 Hitting the "q" key will open the DSP Status
window...;
#P connect 3 0 5 0;
#P connect 4 0 2 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P pop;

Hope that helps,

   Dr. Karlheinz Essl - Composer
   Vienna / Austria
   Studio for Advanced Music & Media Technology
   http://www.essl.at/

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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:22:29 -0500
From:    Nathan Wolek 
Subject: telnet

Where can I get my hands on the 'telnet' object?  I have searched but cannot
find
it.  Thanks in advance.

Nathan Wolek
wolek@stetson.edu

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Date:    Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:34:47 +0100
From:    Audiolab 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 21 Mar 1999 to 22 Mar 1999 (#1999-91)

hello

does someone know where i can downloa the last version of the "ispeak"
object?

thanks

audiolab - villa arson - france

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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:28:22 +0100
From:    Reinhold Braig 
Subject: Matrix-Mixer

Date:    Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:02:51 +0100
From:    sven erga 
Subject: Matrix Solutions etc..

>solutions for distribution of sound? This means true 16X16 matrixes or
>larger. What I am concerned about is ease of use, .....

We work in our studio and in concerts (compositions from L. Nono et al.)
with a custom made - 64x64 Matrix- Mixer. Special features are:
- switching configurations (ca. 50 ms) without click
- sound - movement with a implemented software - "halaphon"
- all parameters (crosspoints, gains, movements etc.) are MIDI-controlled
with special MAX externals.

...Experimentalstudio der...................................
...Heinrich-Strobel-Stiftung des SWR e.V, Freiburg, Germany.
...><....www.experimentalstudio.de....><.

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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:11:18 +0100
From:    Peter Castine 
Subject: Re: FTP software

On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, David Zicarelli wrote:
>>
>> I've been trying to use a new Mac FTP client called Transmit from
>> Panic software, which has a fabulous interface, but perhaps
>> I don't quite understand what I'm doing with it yet. This time
>> I went back to good old Fetch.

[
Chris Murgtagh's praise of NetFinder schnipped... but to which I'd add
that if you haven't looked at Anarchie lately, you should. Peter Lewis
and his Stairway's crew are doing good work.
]

The issue I wanted to raise is: it's all well and good for David to
upload via FTP, but I would like to download the cd object by FTP. So far
I've only had an HTTP URI to the Cycling'74 site, which has, aehhhhhh,
not been exactly responsive. More like molasses in Siberia tonight (if
you can get molasses in Siberia).

So, is there a URI for the cd object using the FTP protocol? (Hoping that
the server might be a little more responsive...)

(Actually, I should use my own advice and try Anarchie's ability to speak
HTTP on Cycling 74. But not tonight.)

Cheers,

Peter

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4-15 Music & Technology    | 26th International Computer Music Conference
                           | will take place in Berlin in the year 2000.
                           | We look forward to seeing you here!

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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:57:27 -0700
From:    Jeff Rona 
Subject: Re: Switchers

> hello fellow maxers!
>
> Is there anyone of you who have experience with different matrix/cuelist
> solutions for distribution of sound? This means true 16X16 matrixes or
> larger. What I am concerned about is ease of use, individual panning of
> a number of sounds, reliability,interfacing, and ability to switch
> between different preprogrammed "shows".
> If anyone would give me his/her opinion about such systems, it would be
> highly appreciated.
> Best Regards!

I saw a very impressive device at the last AES and NAMM shows from
cmautomation (cmautomation.com). They make 2 audio routers - one 16x16, the
other 32x32. The larger one includes gain controls. Both are MIDI
controllable. you may want to check them out.

Jeff Rona

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  Be, Hear, Now
jrona@earthlink.net
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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:58:56 +0100
From:    Atau Tanaka 
Subject: Sensorband tour, northeast u.s.

Sensorband is on tour next week -

Mar31 - Experimental Intermedia New York
Apr 1 - Velvet Lounge  Washington DC
Apr 2 - Maryland Art Place (MAP)   Baltimore
Apr 3 - Speak in Tongues  Cleveland
Apr 4 - Detroit Contemporary Gallery  Detroit
          with The Hearing Trumpet
Apr 5 - Empty Bottle  Chicago
          with TV Pow
Apr 6 - Millvale Industrial Theater  Pittsburgh

Our instruments are emg, infrared, ultrasound sensors.
The engines are MaxMSP
Hopefully www.sensorband.com will be up in a few days.

Atau

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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:56:50 -0500
From:    Christopher Murtagh 
Subject: Re: Sensorband tour, northeast u.s.

On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Atau Tanaka wrote:
> Sensorband is on tour next week -
>
> Mar31 - Experimental Intermedia New York
> Apr 1 - Velvet Lounge  Washington DC
> Apr 2 - Maryland Art Place (MAP)   Baltimore
> Apr 3 - Speak in Tongues  Cleveland
> Apr 4 - Detroit Contemporary Gallery  Detroit
>           with The Hearing Trumpet
> Apr 5 - Empty Bottle  Chicago
>           with TV Pow
> Apr 6 - Millvale Industrial Theater  Pittsburgh

What!?! No Canadian locations! You guys should talk to your manager and
have him book a date here. I think the Montreal Olympic stadium is free in
early April (hey, the Beatles played there). :)

I'd like to check your show out... but I can't make it to the US... Good
luck with the tour, let us know how it all went (and if there were any
really good crashes! :).

Cheers,

Chris

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has been bundled with Windows98.

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Date:    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:27:29 -0800
From:    Matt Wright 
Subject: Max/MSP night school at CNMAT, July 12-16

Max/MSP Night School
July 12-16, 1999
7:00-10:30 PM
CNMAT, 1750 Arch Street, Berkeley, CA 94709

Instructors: David Zicarelli, David Wessel, Adrian Freed, Matthew Wright,
Richard Dudas, and Leslie Stuck

Course Fee: $250.00 payable in advance or at the first meeting.

Reservations: richard@cnmat.berkeley.edu
(510) 643-9990 x300

http://cnmat.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU/Calendar/Max_MSP.html

This intensive week of evening classes features instruction in Max /MSP
programming by its developer David Zicarelli and a cast of highly
experienced
Max /MSP programmers. The course will focus on developing MSP-based
electroacoustic instrumentation in which Max provides flexible control and
interactivity.

The combination of Max and MSP brings unprecedented real-time audio signal
processing to the PowerPC. MSP provides a large collection of digital audio
objects that run in Max with which to build synthesizers, samplers, and
effects processors.

In addition to the standard set of Max/MSP objects, this year's night school
will include CNMAT objects for analysis-based additive synthesis as well as
resonance-based synthesis.  These synthesis methods exploit the Sound
Description Interchange Format (SDIF) which has recently been interfaced to
the Max/MSP world.

The instructors will also demonstrate their most recent work with Max/MSP.

The class will address the topic of managing complexity in larger projects,
showing some abstraction techniques that keep things from getting out of
control as they grow. The special challenges and techniques of building
Max/MSP programs for reliable concert performance will also be discussed.

Course participants will learn how to turn their MSP patches into VST
plug-ins. Steinberg's popular VST plug-in format allows popular sequencing
environments such as Cubase VST, Vision DSP, and Logic Audio to run custom
audio processing modules.

A variety of materials will be provided to course participants, including
machine readable copies of all the programming examples provided in the
course.

While you are here, take advantage of Berkeley's excellent summer weather
and
explore the Bay Area's many attractions, including brewpubs, live music,
hiking/cycling/windsurfing, and visits San Francisco, Marin County, and
Santa
Cruz/Monterey/ Big Sur.

For information about lodging, see the UC Berkeley summer housing web site
(http://www.housing.berkeley.edu/conference/summervis/) or call (510)
642-5925.

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