Subject: MAX Digest - 29 Jan 1999 to 30 Jan 1999 (#1999-36)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:00:02 -0500
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Topics of the day:

  1. Authorization Codes on new Macs
  2. Authorizing MAX on New MACS
  3. corrupted patches (2)
  4. Interactive video installation workshops in Toronto
  5. USB Mac MIDI solution
  6. Corrupted Patches
  7. MAX Digest - 28 Jan 1999 to 29 Jan 1999 (#1999-35) (2)


Date:    Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:54:32 -0800
From:    Richard Zvonar 
Subject: Re: Authorization Codes on new Macs

At 7:17 AM -0800 01/29/99, sven erga wrote:

>I am about to buy one of the new G3 macs, and I wonder about how to
>install MAX and other software without the seemingly obsolete 3,5"
>diskette drive. How can I cope?

I understand that Opcode's recommended procedure will be to buy an external
floppy drive in order to authorize from the floppy key disk.

Richard Zvonar, PhD                   
(818) 788-2202 voice                  
(818) 788-2203 fax                    



Date:    Sat, 30 Jan 1999 01:07:37 -0500
From:    Johnny DeKam 
Subject: Authorizing MAX on New MACS

For those wondering how to authorize MAX on the blue & whites, or iMacs...

Cycling74 has introduced a way to electronically authorize Max over the web

The caveat is that you must have purchased a MAX/MSP bundle from Cycling74
(not Opcode or retail)  So this probably only helps new buyers...

If you hadn't heard about the bundle - you get MAX/MSP together for only
$495.  ($300 savings)



Date:    Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:05:51 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: corrupted patches

Michael DeMurga  writes:

>I've opened up patches today and, out of the blue, their cords are all
>scrambled.  Objects are connected improperly, cords have multiple
>segments aiming in random directions, etc.
>I remember hearing about problems like this before, but can't seem to
>track down any information on a solution.
>Is there a way to correct this problem and restore the patches to their
>pre-scrambled state?

Max patch connections are stored relative to the order in which
an object is stored in the patch. In other words, if you open
a patch as text you'll see things like this:

#P connect 9 0 8 1;

The 9 refers to the ninth object, 0 refers to the leftmost
outlet. The 8 refers to the eighth object, and the 1 refers
to the second inlet of this object from the left.

A missing external user interface object will screw up the
connection references to the objects in a patcher by this numbering
system because it won't be created. This problem is addressed
in the beta Max 3.5.9-7 and the forthcoming Max update I
have now given to Opcode (who knows when it will appear on
their site. I just, it's slick though).

Anyway, before you see a long list of error messages related
to connections, perhaps you will see an error saying an
object cannot be found. That's what you need to address.

David Z.


Date:    Sat, 30 Jan 1999 02:12:19 -0500
From:    Jeff Mann 
Subject: Interactive video installation workshops in Toronto


     InterAccess seeks Participants for "Tactile Video" Workshops

          Artist David Rokeby to lead interactive
          video installation project

TORONTO, Canada - January 29, 1999 - InterAccess Electronic Media Arts
Centre and the Art & Robotics Group will select artists to participate
in the "Tactile Video" intensive workshop. Led by award-winning artist
David Rokeby, the workshop utilizes the "Max" interactive programming
environment and electronic sensor devices to control full-screen
QuickTime video projections. Participants will produce sculptural
installation works which engage the human body and create a sense of
tactility and physical presence. A selection of the works produced will
be exhibited as part of the Images Festival of Independent Film and
Video in April, 1999.

The "Tactile Video" intensive workshop takes place over five consecutive
weekends February 27 to March 28, 1999 (Saturday and Sunday, 11am-5pm)
plus production activities on weekdays. Application deadline is Tuesday,
February 9th.

          See below for application requirements.

Contact:  Project Coordinator/Curator - Jeff Mann

Web Site:


Tactile Video

Ephemeral visions - 30 apparitions per second - trying to get in
touch... can interactive video cross over from cyberspace into material
reality? Spectres of light with animalistic awareness, ubiquitous
presence, sensation, impression, embraceable tactility. Would you rather
point and click, or dance and kiss?

The Tactile Video project investigates and expands artistic practice in
the use of interactive, computer-controlled video and "live" processing
techniques using readily available desktop video systems. It emphasizes
innovative applications in immersive, performative, and installation
environments with responsive human interface alternatives to the
standard "point-and-click" computer screen.

The first phase of the project, now completed, presented a series of
public seminars featuring Bill Buxton, Paul Garrin, Nancy Paterson, Don
Ritter, David Rokeby, "Screen" (Eric Rosenzveig and Willy LeMaitre), Tom
Sherman, and Nell Tenhaaf.

In the second phase of the project, InterAccess and the Art & Robotics
Group will invite a number of artists to participate in a month-long
production intensive workshop led by David Rokeby and assisted by Jeff
Mann. Weekend workshops will focus on the use of the "Max" interactive
programming environment to control playback of full-screen, full-motion
video via QuickTime and a video projector. David Rokeby has created "a
series of extensions to the 'Max' language to deal with the low level
management of QuickTime, allowing the participants to focus on the more
interesting questions of the nature of the relationship between video
and the audience they would like to construct." Rokeby's "Very Nervous
System" and Parallax's "BASIC Stamp" microcontroller will be employed to
sense motion, distance, touch, sound, "live" objects, etc., in order to
create a sensation of physical connection and tactile presence - the
integration of video imagery with the physical environment and human

Participating artists will be encouraged to form production crews of two
to six people. The electronic media production studio at InterAccess
will be available for crews to work independently, on weekdays and
evenings during March. A selection of the works is planned for
exhibition at the InterAccess gallery during the Images Festival in

Application Procedure

Those wishing to be considered as participants should forward a current
curriculum vitae and brief (500 words or less) statement of interest to:

InterAccess, attn: Jeff Mann
Suite #444
401 Richmond Street West
Toronto, ON
Canada M5V 3A8

by Fax: (416) 599-7015
by e-mail:

Application deadline is Tuesday, February 9th, 1999. Notification of
acceptance will be on Thursday, February 11th.

All practicing artists may apply; selection will include a balance of
those with experience levels in electronic media from beginning to
advanced. However, participants must demonstrate a serious interest and
be willing to commit a significant amount of time for five consecutive
weekend-long workshops (Saturday and Sunday, 11am to 5pm), plus
production activities on weekdays and/or evenings, and to complete a
substantial interactive video installation or performance work by the
end of the workshop.

Tuition Fee

The "Tactile Video" project is funded by the Canada Council for the
Arts, and by InterAccess. To preclude economic barriers to artists'
participation, the normal tuition fee ($500 US / $750 CDN) will be
waived for InterAccess members. InterAccess membership costs $50
CDN/year, and requires a brief interview. Please call InterAccess at
(416) 599-7206 for more information about becoming a member.

However, since space is limited for this unique opportunity, a deposit
of $200 CDN will be required. The deposit will be refunded upon
successful completion of the workshop. Participants who miss more than
two days of the workshops, or otherwise fail to participate, will
forfeit the deposit.

Tactile Video Personnel and Sponsors

David Rokeby is an interactive sound- and video-installation artist
based in Toronto, Canada. He has been creating interactive installations
since 1982. His work has been exhibited in shows across Canada, the
United States, Europe, Japan and Korea. He was awarded the first
Petro-Canada Award for Media Arts in 1988 and the Prix Ars Electronica
Award of Distinction for Interactive Art (Austria) in 1991.

Jeff Mann is founder of Toronto's Art & Robotics Group collective, and
producer/coordinator of its "SpaceProbe" and "Tactile Video" projects. A
former faculty member of the Ontario College of Art's New Media program,
his work in telecommunications art, video, sound, and electronic
installation has been exhibited internationally. He is a long-standing
board member of InterAccess, and is now employed at Charles Street Video
in Toronto.

InterAccess is Canada's premiere Electronic Media Arts Centre devoted
exclusively to the production and exhibition of electronic art. A
non-profit, artist-run centre, it consists of a gallery space in
downtown Toronto, and an adjoining electronic media production studio.
It offers a full public programme of shows, artist talks, performances,
workshops, production projects and other events, in addition to artists'
access to electronics and multimedia tools. It is currently the home of
the Art & Robotics Group artists' collective. Contact: Kathleen Pirrie
Adams, Programming Director; Mark Jones, Administrative Director.

Tactile Video is presented by InterAccess, and the Art & Robotics Group.

We gratefully acknowledge the support of the Canada Council for the Arts
which last year invested $6.2 million in media arts throughout Canada.
           The Canada Council for the Arts, Since 1957
Nous remercions de son soutien le Conseil des Arts du Canada, qui a
investi 6,2 millions de dollars l'an dernier dans les arts médiatiques a
travers le Canada.

Jeff Mann - Information Consumer ___O___O__= -- > ||
Visit the Art & Robotics Group site:


Date:    Sat, 30 Jan 1999 10:02:54 +0000
From:    Trond Lossius 
Subject: Re: USB Mac MIDI solution

Bob Gluck wrote:

> I have continued to research USB Mac MIDI solutions and finally found one.
> Apple was uninformed and unhelpful, but Opcode sent me in the direction of
> Griffin Technology (although they didn't have the phone number; I found
> Griffin on the web). Apparently, Griffin will be releasing the "G Port" in
> 2-4 weeks. They have already released an "I-Port" for the iMac. When I
> spoke with Griffin sales, they wouldn't be specific about what exactly the
> "device" is or how it works, except to say that it is not a PCI card (good
> news) and that it addresses the issue of serial clocking data that the USB
> to serial adapters don't touch. They had the MIDI market in mind when
> developing this board or whatever. The price will be $59.00. The sales
> number is (615) 255-0990.

Opcode has just announced new USB hardware products, including MIDI:


Trond L.


Date:    Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:01:05 +0100
From:    Manuel Poletti 
Subject: corrupted patches

I remember having the same kind of problem when creating patchers using an
old version of the "com" (improved "comment" object) object and re-opening
them without the "com" object being loaded at startup.
Re-installing it into the max-startup folder , opening the patchers again,
wich showed their graph normally again, and then replacing all the "com"
objects with some classical "comment" objects solved the problem.
Generally Max won't destroy the patcher's graphics if it misses some
objects, but it seems that that object makes him being "lost" (when not
I hope this can help.


>I've opened up patches today and, out of the blue, their cords are all
>scrambled.  Objects are connected improperly, cords have multiple
>segments aiming in random directions, etc.

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Date:    Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:45:56 -0500
From:    Nicholas Longo <71477.2332@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Re: Corrupted Patches

Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 28 Jan 1999 to 29 Jan 1999 (#1999-35)

>Date:    Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:56:19 -0700
>From:    Alex Stahl 
>Subject: Re: Authorization Codes on new Macs

>You can:
>-- get a SCSI card for your new G3, authorize an external SCSI hard drive
>on an old computer, then attach that drive to the new system;

I haven't tested it but I don't thik you can :
because if  you change your system the key disk may be asked
to  Reauthorize !
(as I always do with my external disk when changing machine)

Hav you tried it ???

Roland Cahen


Date:    Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:17:13 -0800
From:    Alex Stahl 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 28 Jan 1999 to 29 Jan 1999 (#1999-35)

>>You can:
>>-- get a SCSI card for your new G3, authorize an external SCSI hard drive
>>on an old computer, then attach that drive to the new system;
>I haven't tested it but I don't thik you can :
>because if  you change your system the key disk may be asked
>to  Reauthorize !
>(as I always do with my external disk when changing machine)
>Hav you tried it ???

Yes. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I think some old versions didn't allow
these hardware workaround shenanigans. My comments are based on experience
with Max 3.5.x.

Most recently, I removed a "blue-and-white"'s internal drive, installed it
in a 9600, authorized it, and then replaced it in the G3. So now the G3 is
authorized with no external drives required! The only catch was the new
G3's come with HFS+ formatted drives, and the 9600 was running an older
plain-HFS system so it wouldn't mount it at first. I tried to boot the 9600
from the G3's drive and was amazed when that worked fine.

I've also authorized a Jaz cartridge by accident and even that worked.

RZ mentioned external floppies. I am pretty sure that if you go out and try
this today, it won't work. It sure didn't work for me two weeks ago. I've
heard it will work with a new Imation floppy driver that better emulates a
Sony internal floppy, but I don't know how soon or how accurate that is. In
the meantime I have found my external floppy makes a nice color-coordinated
paperweight. Too bad I don't have any paper left.

-Alex Stahl


End of MAX Digest - 29 Jan 1999 to 30 Jan 1999 (#1999-36)