Subject: MAX Digest - 16 Jan 1999 to 17 Jan 1999 (#1999-17)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:00:20 -0500
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There are 4 messages totalling 162 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Nouvelle chasse aux sorcieres?
  2. Advice on new project
  3. Help in Cleveland OH
  4. Patcher *p in external

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Date:    Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:44:53 +0000
From:    Philippe Montémont 
Subject: Nouvelle chasse aux sorcieres?

Je suis désolé de n'envoyer ce message qu'en francais (sans cedilles ni
accents toutefois :) mais a peine une solution est-elle trouvee au sujet
d'Antiorp qu'il est maintenant question de se bagarrer avec/au sujet de

Jusqu'a present, je n'ai jamais eu la patience d'effectuer la double
traduction des messages d'Antiorp et j'ai pris mon mal en patience...

De ce cote ci de l'Atlantique, cette histoire au sujet d'Antiorp fait un
peu sourire, et eventuellement agace. Mais bon, je crois qu'on peut dire
que cette liste de discussion a un reel interet. A nous de faire le tri.

Au sujet de Richard, il me semble qu'il n'avait pas ete tres actif sur
cette liste ces derniers mois et je suis personnellement heureux de le
re-lire à nouveau souvent.

Il est possible que j'apprecie les messages de Richard parce qu'il a
passe du temps en Europe (et aussi parce que je l'ai quelquefois
rencontre) mais je dirai cependant que traiter dans un meme message de
la meilleure facon d'enseigner MAX et donner un patch contournant un bug
dans 'if', cela s'appelle de la qualite et non du blabla...

Alors, une nouvelle chasse aux sorcieres?

Pour etre aussi complet que possible sur la question, Stephen est pour
moi indispensable sur cette liste, tellement il donne de solutions sur
tous les sujets.

Quant a Antiorp, il a repondu avec talent a une de mes questions un
jour... et de plus en un seul mot que j'ai pu traduire. Il m'a donc lui
aussi aide dans mon travail.

Je n'oublie pas Peter Elsea, etc, (etc x ±700).

Pour terminer, je precise que bien que francais je ne suis
definitivement pas un intellectuel... mais j'aime bien l'humour de Paul
Claudel quand il disait: "la tolerance, la tolerance, il y a des maisons
pour ca!"

Bonne annee 1999 a tous


> Date:    Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:05:18 -0500
> From:    Nicholas Longo <71477.2332@COMPUSERVE.COM>
> Subject: Re: my personal contribution of "krapmatter" for 1999
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> < <<>Please remember this if/when you have the chance to vote...
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> You've been spending too much time with European intellectuals.


Date:    Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:28:01 -0500
From:    Jeff Mann 
Subject: Re: Advice on new project

> From:    Thomas Gardner 
> These are my plans -
> Use the 'soundbeam' (an ultra sonic sensor) as input
> The sorts of musical activity I had in mind were
> 1) A Steve Reich like phasing, where the mobile part of the pattern shifts
> according to the position of the nearest person.
> 2) Different harmonic regions played according to the position of the
> nearest person.
> 3) Assorted effects and surprises triggered by someone getting nearer the
> sensor.

Hi - I don't think it's over ambitious - just don't expect a masterpiece
the first time out. I can't see any technical problems, and I think you
will be able to create some interesting musical/sonic activities. My one
piece of advice though, having been involved with interactive
installations, is to consider some different ideas for the physical
interaction; try to put at least as much thought into that part as into
the musical part.

Using a distance sensor is very common, but what you end up with is
people just walking forwards & backwards a few steps, and that gets dull
rather quickly, not to mention that you look and feel kind of foolish.
Another approach might be to build some kind of object that people can
grasp or twist or otherwise manipulate, which I think is a more
satisfying and natural kind of action for people, more like playing an
instrument. You could get a MIDI fader box, tear out the faders and
attach them to objects, or substitute photocells for them and make
something using light. There are lots of possibilities... ||
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Date:    Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:20:33 -0400
From:    Jay Levan 
Subject: Help in Cleveland OH

Hi all, I bought MAX 3.5 in Dec. '97 and later got a 3.5.9 disc. I had
hardly scratched the surface
(learning curve wise) when my hard drive died and I did not reinstall
MAX on my new drive. I'd like
to install it and begin playing with it again. However, I'd like to find
someone locally to help me get
started again. I'm in Cleveland Heights, OH. Any info about local MAX
people appreciated.

System basics: Mac6115 w/72meg ram and 256 cache, Korg M1.




Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:20:10 +0000
From:    Jean Favory 
Subject: Patcher *p in external

Does someone know how is it possible, in writing external object, to get
a pointer on a standard interface object's owning patcher?




End of MAX Digest - 16 Jan 1999 to 17 Jan 1999 (#1999-17)