Subject: MAX Digest - 2 Jan 1999 to 3 Jan 1999 (#1999-4)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:00:12 -0500
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There are 8 messages totalling 312 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  2. It's All in the Way You Hex it
  3. Videoin
  4. Unsubscribe
  5. MAX CD details reminder
  6. Keys'n'pace (2)
  7. new-cd-object / driver hassles?

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Date:    Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:48:24 -0600
From:    =cw4t7abs 

>From:    Trond Lossius 
>1. Some months ago I received a forwarded mail about a Max external or
>patch named "HyperControl"

A real manual will be done.

Andreas Weixler
Studio for Advanced Music and Media Technology
Bruckner-Conservatory Linz, Austria



Date:    Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:33:16 -0600
From:    Bob Falesch 
Subject: It's All in the Way You Hex it

Everyone now knows I have a copy.  Here's what I have to say about it:


Date:    Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:29:14 +0100
From:    Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green 
Subject: Videoin

Whishing everyone a good year 999 of music and creation,

I wonder if someone has had the same problem I have, since a recent day,
Eric Singer's VideoIn object :
It freezes after a few seconds when I turn it on.
After a few resarts it sticks forever.
Is this due to system 8.1 ? (I didn't have this problem before)

Roland CAHEN

New site : on line french magazine on arts and new media
(flash compul-sorry)


Date:    Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:47:10 -0600
From:    Alfredo Alejandro Careaga 
Subject: Unsubscribe

Dear Max friends,

due to too much antiorp mail I wish to unsubscribe.

Thank you

A. Careaga


Date:    Sun, 3 Jan 1999 14:15:26 -0500
From:    Christopher Murtagh 
Subject: MAX CD details reminder

Greetings Maxers,

Since I have been getting a number of queries regarding the details of the
MAX CD, I figure I might as well post to the list. Here is a summary:

Submission Deadline:

Pieces are to be submitted not before February 1st, not after February
13th. (This is the date they should arrive at my place, for people mailing
from Europe or farther who might have problems with postal delays, please
email me and we'll work something out). Space is first come, first serve.


The content can be of the following:

1 Audio piece (16 bit - 44.1kHz - in AIFF, SDII, audio CD or DAT format
please) no longer than 4 minutes (if you wish to submit something longer
than 4 minutes, it will only be included providing there is space for all
other submissions).


MAX/MSP patches Size not greater than 'Not too big'.


Another option to submit audio > 4 minutes is via MP3s (sorry, I don't
have a decent MP3 encoder so you would have to do this yourself). Please
keep file sizes reasonable. I will see if it is possible to include MacAmp
or something on the CD.


Source code and/or 'Tutorials' for MAX/MSP related work


Some other art/'stuff' created with MAX and/or MSP.

Please include a README file which describes the technical details and how
MAX/MSP was used to create this piece (for liner notes and tech geeks like


Works can be sent to me on (in order of preference):

1) CD/CD-R
2) DAT
3) FTP/Download (if patches etc. smaller than 1.4 MB)
4) EZDrive 135MB cart.
5) ZIP disk
6) Floppy disk

 I have also been requested to accept MiniDisc. To date I have been unable
to find a MiniDisc player for free (and I'm not all that willing to spend
$600 to get one). If someone has one that I can borrow or who is
willing/able to convert something for me, please email me.

Of these listed formats I would think that CD is the most likely to
survive the postage system, and would probably be cheapest to mail.

My goal is to have as many people on the CD as possible, so when I say
'Not too big" I really mean that if your submission is so big that there
are 3 people's submissions who cannot be included because of it, I will
take the 3 people's submissions instead of yours (more or less). I will do
my best to be totally fair to everyone here.

Cheers, Happy New Year to all and Happy Maxing.



Date:    Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:31:23 +0100
From:    Oeivind Idsoe 
Subject: Keys'n'pace

>From today's edition of digest:

> Opcode's copy protection is killing me, however.  I'd like to know where
> find a definitive and comprehensive set of guidelines about auth/de-auth
> procedures.


> It happened...
> I have a new Max key disk!!
> After 8 (eight) months of struggle I finally hold it in my hands!
> Yes, it's true.

Being someone who recently lost all his authorizations after using Max for
just a
few weeks -- lost them when deauthorizing failed and Pace's
ultra-destructive copy
protection scheme decided to rip me off -- reading stuff like this is truly
frightening. Waiting EIGHT months for a new key disk!? That's truly
And for the person seeking definitive guidelines for author./deauthor.: I
hold my breath. Pace doesn't seem willing to say anything at the risk of
too much, so they are keeping their cards very close to their chest.

BTW, I've learned from Opcode's Tech support that the reason I got my
revoked" was an old installation of Key Disk Terminator, which I had
forgotten all
about (I've never used it; downloaded it a couple of years (!) ago to see
what it
was about). The installation was not *active* -- it's simply enough that KDT
or has been, residing on the HD for Pace to destroy the authorizations! This
outrageous stuff, and some people on the DAW list has even suggested that
(and thereby Opcode's?) practice might be illegal. Because what they do is
semi-wreck a product on the basis of a product (KDT) which is NOT illegal in
country (AFAIK). Why should I be punished for having a product which is

I suggest people bombard Opcode (and anyone else using Pace c.p.) and Pace
descriptions of the problems you have. I mean, first you get your disk
then you have to wait months and months for a new copy, and then you have to
for this insult.



Date:    Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:30:42 +0100
From:    "Dr. Karlheinz Essl" 
Subject: Re: new-cd-object / driver hassles?

Dear MAXers!

Several months ago I was posting this request to the MAX-list, and I still
found no solution for using the built-in CD-drive (using the updated CD
object of David Z.) with my PB3400. I recall there was some discussion on
that issue, but I unfortunately can't remember it precisely. Anyway, here
is my report, again:


I encountered some problems with the new CD object which I tried to run on
my PB 3400 under MAX3.5.9 / MSP. Here a short chronology what happened:

1) Inserting an audio CD

2) Starting MAX/MSP, opening

3) The following messages appear in the MAX window:
        CD interface type atpi
        cd: ATAPI bus 1
        cd: found 1 drives
        first track 1 last track 19
        table of contents: [... skipped ...]

4) When trying to play track #1, I get no audio out, although the CD drive
is spinning.

5) When I switch to the Finder (with MAX is still running), and when I try
to play the CD with the AppleCDAudio Player, I still get no audio signal.

6) After quitting MAX, the CD starts playing.

7) When I start MAX/MSP again, the CD stops.

8) Quitting MAX again - the CD continues to play.

9) Now starting MAX *without MSP*, opening now everything works as

---> Maybe this is due to a conflict with MSP's audio driver??? I don't use
any audio cards, just the SoundManager (v3.3) together with the system
extension Apple CD-ROM (v5.4) under MacOS 8.0.

Any advices how to remedy this situation?


   Dr. Karlheinz Essl - Composer
   Vienna / Austria
   Studio for Advanced Music & Media Technology


Date:    Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:48:37 -0800
From:    Richard Zvonar 
Subject: Re: Keys'n'pace

At 1:31 PM -0800 01/03/99, Oeivind Idsoe wrote:

>BTW, I've learned from Opcode's Tech support that the reason I got my
>revoked" was an old installation of Key Disk Terminator, which I had
>forgotten all

The same thing happened to me with Peak a few years ago. Like you I had a
copy of KDT which I'd downloaded but had never used. Fortunately, though it
was embarassing on both sides, BIAS gave me a new key disk gratis.

>I suggest people bombard Opcode (and anyone else using Pace c.p.) and Pace
>descriptions of the problems you have. I mean, first you get your disk
>then you have to wait months and months for a new copy, and then you have
>to PAY
>for this insult.

Allen Cronce
Pace Anti-Piracy

Richard Zvonar, PhD                    
(818) 788-2202 voice                   
(818) 788-2203 fax                     



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