Subject: MAX Digest - 22 Dec 1998 to 23 Dec 1998 (#1998-108)
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There are 9 messages totalling 473 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. can't keep the smart ass comments to myself...
  2. ¤(/& other free/shareware
  5. Open... error
  6. I-Cube?
  7. Other waveforms in cycle~
  8. 
  9. cc;097

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Date:    Tue, 22 Dec 1998 22:18:06 -0800
From:    Peter Nyboer 
Subject: can't keep the smart ass comments to myself...

>and i was almost coredumped about the sound, style
>and performance of this killer-app!! wow! max. respect!

Your language! You can't read it anymore, you can't even write it anymore,
your language...
"Coredumped"???  May I say cyberkontrived?  Is it possible to glare with
disgust using one of those adorable little ASCII faces?  "Killer-app"???

Well, I guess I can contribute something slightly worthwhile....in regards
to my Sonnet G3/220 in 7100 adventures and for those who might be
interested....it's kinda worth it.  It definitely speeds things up:
applications open faster, 8.1 runs nicely, Graphics applications are
faster, but, of course you are stuck with all the old stuff around it--like
the crappy old hard drive!  Of course, the nice thing is that it makes MSP
viable on my machine now.  I've been doing some playing around with the MSP
demo, mostly with groove~, some mixing functions and some filtering.
Running 3 2 second sample loops with some active mixing takes around 30-40%
of the CPU power.  I've been doing everything with the SoundManager--I have
yet to try the AMII driver for my activities.  Everything has been quite
responsive and clean, and I am looking forward to really testing it out to
see if it is worth buying for this platform.

Peter.

Peter Nyboer
pnyboer@sirius.com
http://www.sirius.com/~pnyboer
"Now, I not some guru or Dog or anything"

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Date:    Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:32:18 +0100
From:    Oeivind Idsoe 
Subject: ¤(/
Subject: Re: g3 pbook audio i/o card

>>(I'm also building a little splitter box so I don't have to go through
this
>>with my G3.  Audio I/O is on some subcard on them, by the way, so if the
>>_do_ fuck up, it's not quite so bad.)
>
>This seems to suggest it might be possible to REPLACE this subcard with
>something that sounds a little better. Anyone have any thoughts on that
>idea?

To clarify: the G3 powerbook's audio in and out live on the same small card
that contains the power jack.  So, while in THEORY, someone might make a
replacement, high quality sound card for this machine, I really think it's
highly unlikely, due to the specialized functions of the card.  But it is a
great answer to the "oh, your power jack (sound jack) broke? that's a whole
logic board" problem.

Jeremy

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Date:    Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:52:42 -0500
From:    Tommy DOG 
Subject: Phonograme & other free/shareware

Dear Uncle Max,
I would like to put in an indorsement for Mr. Vincent Lesbros Phonograme.
It is not at all like XX, in terms of interface but it is is a fun program,
I've used it for a number of years in fact Vincent was one of the first
people I met online.

Another one, who's author escapes me in Cellular Automata Music. This one
is not the same interms of flexablity but is worth finding IF you keep a
68k machine running. I have no idea if it indeed runs on PPC.

Some shout outs to: Lemur, SoundHack, Sound Effects (commercially Sound
Maker) and Thonk... All of these are signal processing, effect programs
that are well worth trying out.

This information is not new to everyone, nor is it about Max but I think
that suggesting good software to people on this list is fine, especially
during the holiday season.

-ho ho ho
TD

  "When The Weird Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Be Weird"

  Rev. Tommy DOG, The Brain People and other disruptions
                  http://www.tommydog.com

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Date:    Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:35:19 +0200
From:    Eirik Lie 
Subject: Open... error

Hello,

I just bought a second-hand LC475 (68040, 33MHz) for use as a dedicated Max
(MIDI-only) computer for an installation. However, after installing Max 3.5
it is impossible to open any files from within Max. I may double-click a
file in the Finder and it opens properly, but when selecting "Open..." from
the Max File menu I only get a system beep and nothing else. No file
selector box, no error messages. Is there any problems using Max on a 68040
prosessor? Other apps works OK on the LC475, and so does Max on both my
antique IIvx and my (soon-to-be-antique) PowerMac 7600.
Any ideas?

Oh, BTW, a Merry Christmas to you all.

Eirik Lie, Bjornerabben 9, N-0383 Oslo, Norway
Email: eirikli@notam.uio.no   -   Tel +47 22 50 23 14
Check out my CD "12 Bilder": http://home.sol.no/home/eiriklie/Visual.html

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Date:    Wed, 23 Dec 1998 21:06:44 +0200
From:    Eirik Lie 
Subject: I-Cube?

Hello,

Has anyone been in touch with the makers of the I-Cube lately? I have tried
several times to email them at info@infusionsystems.com, but no replies. To
be more specific,  I want to know if they have any dealers in Norway or
elsewhere in Europe. I also seem to recall that Max users was offered
discounts on their system?
Anyway, if any of you has some bad (or good) experiences with the I-Cube or
Infusion Systems, please let me know.

Kind regards,

Eirik Lie, Bjornerabben 9, N-0383 Oslo, Norway
Email: eirikli@notam.uio.no   -   Tel +47 22 50 23 14
Check out my CD "12 Bilder": http://home.sol.no/home/eiriklie/Visual.html

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Date:    Wed, 23 Dec 1998 16:55:53 -0800
From:    Arne Eigenfeldt 
Subject: Other waveforms in cycle~

Is there an easy way to create 512 sample waveforms for cycle~ within MSP?

I would like to have a number of additive synthesis waveforms for cycle~ to
read. (It's so simple in Csound...)

|                         Arne Eigenfeldt                        |
|             Lab Instructor, Music and Technology               |
|     Technical Director, Computer Lab for Music and Sound       |
|   School for the Contemporary Arts, Simon Fraser University    |

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Date:    Wed, 23 Dec 1998 20:29:38 -0600
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: 

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max v2;
#N vpatcher 92 49 572 618;
#P button 209 502 15 0;
#P newex 305 135 38 196617 print a;
#P newex 85 227 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 85 135 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 305 227 38 196617 print d;
#P button 209 72 15 0;
#P button 305 114 15 0;
#P button 85 207 15 0;
#P button 85 114 15 0;
#P button 305 206 15 0;
#P button 312 213 15 0;
#P button 92 121 15 0;
#P button 92 214 15 0;
#P button 312 121 15 0;
#P newex 312 234 38 196617 print d;
#P newex 92 142 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 92 234 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 312 142 38 196617 print a;
#P newex 319 149 38 196617 print a;
#P newex 99 241 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 99 149 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 319 241 38 196617 print d;
#P button 319 128 15 0;
#P button 99 221 15 0;
#P button 99 128 15 0;
#P button 319 220 15 0;
#P button 312 213 15 0;
#P button 92 121 15 0;
#P button 92 214 15 0;
#P button 312 121 15 0;
#P newex 312 234 38 196617 print d;
#P newex 92 142 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 92 234 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 312 142 38 196617 print a;
#P newex 306 360 38 196617 print a;
#P newex 86 452 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 86 360 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 306 452 38 196617 print d;
#P button 209 297 15 0;
#P button 306 339 15 0;
#P button 86 432 15 0;
#P button 86 339 15 0;
#P button 306 431 15 0;
#P button 313 438 15 0;
#P button 93 346 15 0;
#P button 93 439 15 0;
#P button 313 346 15 0;
#P newex 313 459 38 196617 print d;
#P newex 93 367 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 93 459 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 313 367 38 196617 print a;
#P newex 320 374 38 196617 print a;
#P newex 100 466 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 100 374 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 320 466 38 196617 print d;
#P button 320 353 15 0;
#P button 100 446 15 0;
#P button 100 353 15 0;
#P button 320 445 15 0;
#P button 313 438 15 0;
#P button 93 346 15 0;
#P button 93 439 15 0;
#P button 313 346 15 0;
#P newex 313 459 38 196617 print d;
#P newex 93 367 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 93 459 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 313 367 38 196617 print a;
#P newex 313 95 38 196617 print a;
#P newex 93 187 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 93 95 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 313 187 38 196617 print d;
#P button 313 74 15 0;
#P button 93 167 15 0;
#P button 93 74 15 0;
#P button 313 166 15 0;
#P button 320 173 15 0;
#P button 100 81 15 0;
#P button 100 174 15 0;
#P button 320 81 15 0;
#P newex 320 194 38 196617 print d;
#P newex 100 102 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 100 194 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 320 102 38 196617 print a;
#P newex 313 95 38 196617 print a;
#P newex 93 187 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 93 95 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 313 187 38 196617 print d;
#P button 313 74 15 0;
#P button 93 167 15 0;
#P button 93 74 15 0;
#P button 313 166 15 0;
#P button 306 159 15 0;
#P button 86 67 15 0;
#P button 86 160 15 0;
#P button 306 67 15 0;
#P button 209 25 15 0;
#P newex 306 180 38 196617 print d;
#P newex 86 88 38 196617 print c;
#P newex 86 180 38 196617 print b;
#P newex 306 88 38 196617 print a;
#P connect 4 0 10 0;
#P connect 4 0 23 0;
#P connect 4 0 94 0;
#P connect 4 0 5 0;
#P connect 4 0 28 0;
#P connect 4 0 21 0;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 5 0 0 0;
#P connect 6 0 1 0;
#P connect 7 0 2 0;
#P connect 7 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 3 0;
#P connect 12 0 11 0;
#P connect 12 0 16 0;
#P connect 10 0 14 0;
#P connect 10 0 9 0;
#P connect 9 0 13 0;
#P connect 11 0 15 0;
#P connect 28 0 32 0;
#P connect 28 0 27 0;
#P connect 27 0 31 0;
#P connect 26 0 30 0;
#P connect 26 0 25 0;
#P connect 24 0 20 0;
#P connect 23 0 19 0;
#P connect 23 0 24 0;
#P connect 22 0 18 0;
#P connect 21 0 22 0;
#P connect 21 0 17 0;
#P connect 61 0 58 0;
#P connect 61 0 59 0;
#P connect 61 0 55 0;
#P connect 61 0 42 0;
#P connect 61 0 60 0;
#P connect 61 0 57 0;
#P connect 61 0 37 0;
#P connect 61 0 44 0;
#P connect 60 0 59 0;
#P connect 60 0 4 0;
#P connect 60 0 65 0;
#P connect 59 0 64 0;
#P connect 59 0 99 0;
#P connect 58 0 63 0;
#P connect 58 0 4 0;
#P connect 58 0 57 0;
#P connect 57 0 99 0;
#P connect 57 0 62 0;
#P connect 56 0 52 0;
#P connect 55 0 51 0;
#P connect 55 0 56 0;
#P connect 54 0 50 0;
#P connect 53 0 54 0;
#P connect 53 0 49 0;
#P connect 44 0 43 0;
#P connect 44 0 48 0;
#P connect 43 0 47 0;
#P connect 42 0 46 0;
#P connect 42 0 41 0;
#P connect 41 0 45 0;
#P connect 40 0 36 0;
#P connect 25 0 29 0;
#P connect 39 0 35 0;
#P connect 39 0 40 0;
#P connect 38 0 34 0;
#P connect 37 0 38 0;
#P connect 4 0 7 0;
#P connect 37 0 33 0;
#P connect 94 0 91 0;
#P connect 94 0 88 0;
#P connect 94 0 75 0;
#P connect 94 0 61 0;
#P connect 94 0 93 0;
#P connect 94 0 70 0;
#P connect 94 0 77 0;
#P connect 93 0 92 0;
#P connect 93 0 98 0;
#P connect 92 0 97 0;
#P connect 92 0 61 0;
#P connect 92 0 99 0;
#P connect 91 0 96 0;
#P connect 91 0 90 0;
#P connect 90 0 61 0;
#P connect 90 0 99 0;
#P connect 90 0 95 0;
#P connect 89 0 85 0;
#P connect 88 0 84 0;
#P connect 88 0 89 0;
#P connect 87 0 83 0;
#P connect 86 0 87 0;
#P connect 86 0 82 0;
#P connect 77 0 76 0;
#P connect 77 0 81 0;
#P connect 76 0 80 0;
#P connect 75 0 79 0;
#P connect 75 0 74 0;
#P connect 74 0 78 0;
#P connect 73 0 69 0;
#P connect 72 0 68 0;
#P connect 72 0 73 0;
#P connect 71 0 67 0;
#P connect 70 0 71 0;
#P connect 70 0 66 0;
#P pop;

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Date:    Wed, 23 Dec 1998 20:38:48 -0600
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: cc;097

a.nvr + m9nd.s0l.

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