Subject: MAX Digest - 13 Dec 1998 to 14 Dec 1998 (#1998-99)
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Topics of the day:

  1. Max-list CD? (2)
  2. Max-list CD
  3. FIMU 1999 : Call for participations
  4. Music
  5. 
  6. Max CD
  7. NRPN/RPN/XG
  8. rpns & nrpns & bank select
  9. Programming question: access to buffer~ (2)

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Date:    Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:43:31 -0500
From:    Ken Gregory 
Subject: Re: Max-list CD?

Hello Chris,

I like the Max compilation CD idea. Go for it!

And

 How about making it a CD-R with actual Max patch projects included with
the audio files?

Cheers,
ken

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Date:    Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:49:25 -0800
From:    Alex Stahl 
Subject: Max-list CD

>Date:    Sat, 12 Dec 1998 18:54:24 -0500
>From:    Chris Murtagh 
>Subject: Max-list CD?

>We could even add other
>material other than audio and make it a multi-format CD-ROM.

Certainly, allowing Max patches or collectives as well as audio would be
fun.  Maybe it should be a two-CD set, one data and one audio.  People
could include the source patches as well as the output, or just one or the
other. Best of all people might consider contributing a Max collective
which takes over control of CD playback, or an MSP patch which accesses
sound files included on the CD.

My favorite kind of hybrid data/red book CD's are those which allow, or
even encourage, accidental playback of the data tracks in an audio player.
I propose a contest to make a file, which generates exactly the same nasty
waveform whether you execute it as code or play it as audio. If this can be
done I'm sure some loudspeaker manufacturer will be happy to underwrite CD
replication in anticipation of increased parts sales.

-Alex

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Date:    Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:00:47 +0100
From:    Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green 
Subject: FIMU 1999 : Call for participations

*************   FRANÇAIS ************** (English : see below ->)
Le F.I.M.U.
Festival International de Musique Universitaire
BELFORT
Week end de la Pentecote 99
22-24 Mai1999

Invite
jeunes compositeurs, etudiants et ou artistes issus des classes de
composition, de creation sonore, d'improvisation contemporaine, de musique
electroacoustiques d'Europe  etc
au Forum des
Musiques Nouvelles

Festival International de Musique Universitaire
Direction des Affaires Culturelles
Hotel de Ville
F-90020 BELFORT Cedex
Fax : (33) 3 8421 7171/(33) 3 8454 2526
Web Homepage : http://www.FIMU.com
Email : inscript@fimu.com
Contact : Jean Louis Baverel

Amninistration : Cinemas d'Aujourd'hui
president : Michel Marchand
directeur : Richard Gorrieri
regisseur general : Yves Rodier
publications : Dominique Deplanche
accueil et inscriptions : Daisy Duvernoy

Direction artistique du Forum des Nouvelles Musiques :
(Atelier de Création Sonore de l'Ecole Nationale de Musique du Pays de
Montbéliard)
Jean Louis Baverel : Responsable des programmes (artiste sonore et
educateur specialise) Roland Cahen : conseille artistique (compositeur et
prof. de musique electroacoustique) Jean Besanceney : Coordination
technique et musicale (musicien electronique et prof.de claviers) Pascal
Marchand : Communication (compositeur et musicien intervenant)
Le FIMU est un Festival accueillant toutes formes de musiques interpretees
par des ensembles internationaux composes essentiellement de musiciens
etudiants ou pratiquant la musique en amateur. C'est egalement une fete où
pendant trois jours le public (generalement nombreux : de 10 000 a 50 000
personnes) de toute la region assiste gratuitement aux concerts dans quinze
lieux interieurs et exterieurs, avec quelques 2000 musiciens de 20 pays
differents. Des gens entrent et sortent pendant le concert, d'autres
restent toute la duree. On y voir aussi des expositions, installations et
autres formes de representations. La majorite des spectateurs sont des
jeunes et des familles.
Les musiciens contemporains, souvent consideres comme trop serieux, peuvent
tirer beaucoup de cette experience essentielle : confronter leur pratique
musicale ou leurs oeuvres a un public authentique. Ici les artistes comme
le public doivent faire l'effort d'aller les uns vers les autres. Les
auditeurs essaient d'ecouter une musique qui les deconcerte, les musiciens
font de leur mieux pour repondre a leur interrogation par les explications
adequates et un choix d'oeuvres sinceres et appropriees.
Nous preferons selectionner des performances musicales en direct ou des
installations que des programmes de musique sur bande. Non pas pour rejeter
ce genre, au contraire, la musique electroacoustique est notre passion,
mais un concert, desormais traditionnel chaque annee lui est consacre "le
concert aveugle". Evidement, des bandes pourront etre egalement presentees
dans les autres programmes mais a petite dose. Pour le concert aveugle,
envoyez nous une bande ou un CD ou une K7 DAT de vos travaux de moins de 15
minutes.
Le Centre Choregraphique National (dir.) qui accueille depuis 1995 le Forum
des Nouvelles Musiques est un beau theâtre polyvalent, neuf et d'une
acoustique particulierement bonne pour les musiques d'aujourd'hui.

Artistes invites (de1995 a 1998) :
Departement de Musique Electroacoustique d'Amiens (Pierre Boeswillwald)
(France) - Classe de Composition de la "Music Academy der Stadt Basel"
(Thomas Kessler) (Switzerland) - Classe de Musique electroacoustique de
l'Ecole Nationale de Musique de Montbeliard (Roland Cahen) (France) -
Emmenthal Socapex : Theater Academy of Finland (departement of sound design
and lighting) (Finland) - Quattrophage : compositeurs et improvisateurs de
Rouen (France) - Universite de Montreal (Professeurs Marcelle Deschenne et
Francis Dhomont) - Atelier de Creation Sonore (Montbeliard - France) -
Hyperion : Conservatoire National de Naples (Italy) - Cellule Erratumique
(Besançon - France) - Ecole Nationale des Beaux Arts de Paris (France) -
Classe de musique electroacoustique de l'Ecole Nationale de Musique
(Bourges - France) (Roger Cochini) - Universite de Lille (CFMI) -
Conservatoire de Paris XX (Gino Favotti) - Ensemble Musique Mixte Ecole
Nationale de Musique (Annecy - France) - Conservatoire National de Région
de Lyon - Leeds Music College (Grande Bretagne)- Duo Raïner Bürck/ Roland
Graeter (Allemagne) - Les Phonogénistes - Lakiste (la Réunion) - Jan Kooï
Ensemble (Hollande)

Questions pratiques :
Nous accueillons des groupes ou des ensembles mais des individus ne sont
pas exclus.
Les concerts : ils durent environ une heure. Le meme programme est
generalement presente 2 ou 3 fois.
Le lieu est equipe d'un systeme de diffusion multiphonique et d'un
equipement d'eclairage consequent.
Les horaires : les interruptions entre les concerts sont de courtes durees
(20 a 30 minutes), le concert precedent doit etre range et le suivant
installe pendant ce lapse de temps.
Le festival offre la nourriture et le logement aux artistes et peut
participer a une partie de leurs frais de deplacements.
Pour participer : 1) ecrire, telephoner, envoyer un courrier electronique
ou contacter le serveur web pour remplir une feuille d'insription le plus
vite possible. 2) envoyez nous une k7 ou un CD ou une DAT de vos travaux et
quelques lignes à propos de ce que vous souhaitez presenter au FIMU.

*************   ENGLISH **************
The
F.I.M.U
Festival International des Musiques Universitaires
(International University Music Festival)
Belfort (FRANCE) 1999
Whitsuntide week end
22 -24 May 1999
New Music Forum
Welcomes
Young composers, students and or artists of contemporary music, sound art,
sound creation, improvisation, electroacoustic music etc.

Direction des Affaires Culturelles
Hotel de Ville
F-90020 BELFORT Cedex
Tel : (33) 3 84 54 24 43
Fax :(33) 3 8421 7171 / (33) 3 8454 2526
Web Homepage: http://www.FIMU.com
Email : inscript@fimu.com
Contact : Jean Louis Baverel

The "Centre Choregraphique" has been open for performances since 1995. For
three days, concerts and performances of new music take place in this
beautiful theatre and over the past few years many young artists have
performed there.

The F.I.M.U. is a kind of fair, all the concerts are free, non musician
people come from all over the local region and go from place to place to
listen to music in 15 theatres, concert halls or outdoor venues with
continuous concerts, with 2000 musicians from 20 countries and 10 to 50
thousand spectators during three days. Some people come in or out, some
stay for the whole concert. Some exhibitions or installations are presented
as well. The majority of the audience are young people, and families...
Contemporary musicians, often known as serious or too serious, can benefit
from this essential experience : a challenge to offer their music to a
genuine non specialised audience. Both the musicians and the audience must
move towards one another. The audience tries to listen to an unfamiliar
type of music and the musicians offer their music and try their best to
respond generously to the people's expectations. We believe this is one of
the best ways to extract contemporary music out of its rut.

We prefer to select original music live performances and some
installations. But one concert, "le concert aveugle" is each year dedicated
solely to tapes.

Amninistration : Cinemas d'Aujourd'hui
president : Michel Marchand
director : Richard Gorrieri
technical director : Yves Rodier
publications : Dominique Deplanche
applications : Daisy Duvernoy

Artistic direction of the New Music Forum :
(Sound Creation Workshop of the National School of Music of Montbeliard)
Jean Louis Baverel : Program director (sound artist and social worker)
Roland Cahen : Artistic adviser (composer and electroacoustic music teacher)
Jean Besanceney : Musical and technical coordination (musician an
electronic music teacher)
Pascal Marchand : Communication (composer and music teacher)

Welcomed artists (from 1995 to 1998) :
Electroacoustic music department of Amiens (Pierre Boeswillwald) (France) -
Composition class of the "Music Academy der Stadt Basel" (Thomas Kessler)
(Switzerland) - Electroacoustic music class of the National Music School of
Montbéliard (Roland Cahen) (France) - Emmenthal Socapex : Theater Academy
of Finland (departement of sound design and lighting) (Finland) -
Quattrophage : composers and improvisators of Rouen (France) - University
of Montreal (Teachers Marcelle Deschenne and Francis Dhomont) - Atelier de
Creation Sonore (Montbeliard - France) - Hyperion : National Conservatory
of Naples (Italy) - Cellule Erratumique (Besançon - France) - Ecole
Nationale des Beaux Arts de Paris (France) - Electroacoustic music class of
the National School of Music (Bourges - France) (Roger Cochini) -
University of Lille (CFMI) - Conservatory of Paris XX (Gino Favotti) -
National School of Music (Annecy - France) - Conservatoire National de
Région de Lyon - Leeds Music College (Grande Bretagne)- Duo Raïner Bürck/
Roland Graeter (Allemagne) - Les Phonogénistes - Lakiste (la Réunion) - Jan
Kooï Ensemble (Hollande)

Practical questions :

This programme welcomes groups but individuals are not excluded.
The concerts : They last about one hour. The same programme is usually
presented several times (2 or 3)
The venue : It is a big new and nice place, with a good multiphonic sound
system and lights.
The timing : the time gap between each concert is short (20 - 30 minutes),
some short rehearsals happen in the mornings and are open to the public.
The festival offers lodging (in hotels) and meals to the musicians and
partly participate to travelling costs.

How to participate :

1) Write, telephone or fax or Email to the address above to ask for an
application form, fill it in and return as soon as possible
2) Send us a K7 or an CD or DAT of your works and a few lines about what
you wish to do.

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Date:    Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:36:25 +0100
From:    Jeffrey Burns 
Subject: Re: Music

>I'm not sure what synthesizer is installed on my computer. I think it's an
>AudioPCI Midi synthesizer.
>I'll try the web page again. last night it didn't work at all for me.
>
>Just tried it again - it came up much faster but it didn't start playing
while
>it was downloading - same for the Bharier and the Yun. Still looks and
sounds
>great.
>

If you've got at least 28,000 bps modem and a good connection (which is a
matter of luck) it should play immediately. As far as I can tell, with a
very good connection, it loads only a bit faster than it plays. So the
matter is a bit shakey. However, you should at least get the picture to
come up immediately, which wasn't the case before.

>Sorry I haven't been able to convince you about the revised version of the
1st
>mvmnt, but I do agree that the original has a more spare and stark feel to
it.
>How do'you like the ending of the concerto? There are some Chinese gong
sounds
>in the last section (not right at the end) which are not coming over
clearly
>on either of our simulations.

I'll check them out.

 If it ever comes to a live performance, I'll
>show you exactly where I want them (only two places).
>Love,
>Mike

We had a big Hanukah party yesterday. On Saturday, I'm reading a few verses
from Deuteronomy about oil sacrifices. If you ever have a chance, I would
appreciate getting your version of the bracha after the Haftara in the
German tradition.

love

Jeff

http://www.snafu.de/~jeff

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Date:    Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:12:00 +0100
From:    Jeffrey Burns 
Subject: 

All my

friends

are invited

to visit the new

AUDIO-VIDEO GALLERY

OF CONTEMPORARY PIANO MUSIC

at http://www.snafu.de/~jeff

Jeff Burns

P.S. My mistake, some people were sent a different message an while ago,
when they were supposed to receive the this one. Sorry for the
inconvenience.

http://www.snafu.de/~jeff

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Date:    Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:51:42 -0500
From:    Tommy DOG 
Subject: Max CD

I think a Max CD would be cool. There are both published and unpublished
people on this list and the ones that have some audience may draw attention
to the lesser known. It also forces some genre barrer breaking which is
always a plus.

Have any of you ever tried to find out which CDs feature the use of Max? It
isn't easy. I think showing the actual musical output to people would be
good.

PLUG ALERT: The Brain People CD "The Buzz More Crave" has a number of
pieces performed with or by Max, as a random muic generator. We also used a
number of others including the Triadex Muse. We are not shipping yet but
will in a few weeks... I'll put a notice up then.

TD

  "When The Weird Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Be Weird"

  Rev. Tommy DOG, The Brain People and other disruptions
                  http://www.tommydog.com

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Date:    Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:43:56 +0200
From:    Eirik Lie 
Subject: Re: Max-list CD?

>On the DAW-MAC list, there is something really neat going on. Paul
>Braunbehrens, the DAW-MAC admin, has put together a DAW-MAC cd which is a
>compilation of work by some subscribers to the list. To me, this sounds
>like a really cool idea, and I was wondering if there would be any interest
>in doing the same here for the MAX list. I think we could come up with a
>really great CD full of all kinds of bleeps, bloops and groovy tunes.

Great idea! I'd love to contribute with some groovy bloops and tuned bleeps.

Eirik Lie, Bjornerabben 9, N-0383 Oslo, Norway
Email: eirikli@notam.uio.no   -   Tel +47 22 50 23 14
Check out my CD "12 Bilder": http://home.sol.no/home/eiriklie/Visual.html

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Date:    Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:50:28 +0200
From:    Trond Lossius 
Subject: Re: NRPN/RPN/XG

Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:

> Could someone share with me clear and simple patches which handle the
> following:
>
> 1.  NRPN Control of an XG or GS Box such as a Yamaha MU80 or Roland SC88.
> 2.  Bank Select via Controller 0 & 32 as in the Yamaha MU80.

I've made patches for sending NRPNs and RPNs (Data Entry MSB or x-versions
for
sending Data Entry MSB and LSB). They are still kind of in a late beta
stage, but
well documented (help-files and WORD-doc.) I'm sending them to you of the
list.

Cheers!

Trond L.

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Date:    Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:51:22 -0800
From:    Peter Elsea 
Subject: rpns & nrpns & bank select

>Could someone share with me clear and simple patches which handle the
>following:
>
>1.  NRPN Control of an XG or GS Box such as a Yamaha MU80 or Roland SC88.
>2.  Bank Select via Controller 0 & 32 as in the Yamaha MU80.

RPNs (registered parameter numbers), NRPNs (non-registered parameter
numbers) and bank select are similar in that they require a series of
control change messages. The parameter numbers and values of rpns & nrpns
are 14 bit values which must be sent in two messages each. Since reception
of a high byte sets the low byte to 0, everything should be sent high byte,
low byte. My Max machine is packed awaiting the movers, so I can't include
a patcher, but here is the general procedure:

pnH = parameterNumber/128
pnL = parameterNumber%128
valH = value/128
valL = value%128

send lists of two members to ctlout in this order:

RPN
101 pnH
100 pnL
6  valH  (Data Entry MSB)
38 valL  (Data Entry LSB)
Instead of sending an absolute value to Data Entry, you can send a single
positive change to 97 (Data Increment) or a negative change to 96 (Data
decrement).

NRPN
99 pnH
98 pnL
6  valH
38 valL

Bank select is similar, using the bank select control command:
0 valH
32 valL
Then a program change
The bank numbers are usually not what you expect them to be, so consult the
instrument manual.

Peter Elsea
Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz
http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/index.html
 elsea@cats.ucsc.edu

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Date:    Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:46:19 -0800
From:    Xavier Chabot 
Subject: Programming question: access to buffer~

sorry if that was already dealt with in the list - I checked the archive
but maybe I missed it:
how do you access the sample memory allocated by buffer~ from your
external MSP object code, teh same way play~, index~, groove~ do?
I checked in z_sys.h and z_dsp.h .
or is that using a  standard Max call?

thanks, xavier

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Date:    Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:56:07 -0700
From:    Kevin Walker 
Subject: Re: Programming question: access to buffer~

>sorry if that was already dealt with in the list - I checked the archive
>but maybe I missed it:
>how do you access the sample memory allocated by buffer~ from your
>external MSP object code, teh same way play~, index~, groove~ do?
>I checked in z_sys.h and z_dsp.h .
>or is that using a  standard Max call?

sample code can be found at:

http://www.cycling74.com/support/index.html#msp

http://www.cycling74.com/binaries/msp/index.hqx

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