Subject: MAX Digest - 22 Nov 1998 to 23 Nov 1998 (#1998-79)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 00:00:05 -0500
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  1. lisp interpreter
  2. Lisp interpreter extern? (2)
  3. Internet
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  6. Anteck Wind Machine found!

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Date:    Mon, 23 Nov 1998 01:10:22 -0500
From:    Alex Burton 
Subject: Re: lisp interpreter

>Date:    Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:10:40 +0000
>From:    mtheodore 
>Subject: Lisp interpreter extern? Spectral Display?
>
>Greetings folks,
>As someone who hops back at forth between text-based and graphic-based
>approaches to creating music, it occurs to me that a Max extern with a Lisp
>interpreter would be a wonderful thing. That way one could use text to
specify
>certain precise ideas (such as the extremely useful "item stream" setup of
>Common
>Music),
>and then connect the output visually to various musical transformation
>objects in a more or less free-wheeling fashion. This isn't to say that
>you can't
>be precise
>in Max, or that you can't be free-wheeling in Lisp, but certain ideas
express
>themselves
>better in one or the other domain. Anyway, has anyone out there actually
built
>such a thing?

 I'm not aware of a genuine Lisp interpreter for Max, but Pyrite, by James
McCartney has some constructs that could fit the bill. It describes itself
(if i recall correctly) as an hybrid of C and Lisp, and has "pattern
streams & threads" that are similar to item streams.

 It should be in the usual FTP places.

                                                Alex.

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Date:    Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:17:30 -0600
From:    James McCartney 
Subject: Re: Lisp interpreter extern?

At 11:00 PM -0600 11/22/98, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>Greetings folks,
>As someone who hops back at forth between text-based and graphic-based
>approaches to creating music, it occurs to me that a Max extern with a Lisp
>interpreter would be a wonderful thing. That way one could use text to
specify
>certain precise ideas (such as the extremely useful "item stream" setup of
Common
>Music),
>and then connect the output visually to various musical transformation
>objects in a more or less free-wheeling fashion. This isn't to say that you
can't
>be precise
>in Max, or that you can't be free-wheeling in Lisp, but certain ideas
express
>themselves
>better in one or the other domain. Anyway, has anyone out there actually
built
>such a thing?

There is Pyrite which is a language made to run as a MAX external object.
It is not LISP, but it does have list operations, real time garbage
collection, lambdas and a whole lot of other stuff..

   --- james mccartney     james@audiosynth.com   http://www.audiosynth.com
If you have a PowerMac check out SuperCollider2, a real time synth program:


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Date:    Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:43:26 +0100
From:    Riccardo Mazza 
Subject: Internet

Dear Maxers,

Greetings from Italy to everyone!!!

I'm looking for a Max Extenral that can send/receive via Internet. If
anybody knows such an object or where I may download it or buy it it
would be very very appreciated.

Thank's in advance.

Riccardo Mazza
http://www.improject.com
E-mail: riccardo@improject.com

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Date:    Mon, 23 Nov 1998 06:29:06 -0600
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: 

Dave Gingerich 

Where do you want to go today?

Straight to hell, apparently.

The other day I saw another Microsoft commercial on TV: sublime choral
music drifts through the background as the unseen user surfs through the
Internet and various Microsoft content using Internet Explorer. The
commercial closes with the Microsoft slogan "Where do you want to go
today?" and a final, furious blast of music. It's a very cool effect. But
if you dig a little deeper...

As it turns out, the background music is the Dies Irae of Mozart's
Requiem Mass. And the words of the final blast of music which accompanies
"Where do you want to go today?" are actually "confutatis maledictis,
flammis acribus addictis..." In English: "When the damned are confounded,
and consigned to sharp flames..."; which describes exactly where I want
to go today.

Unfortunately, while Explorer will take you to hell for free, the upgrade
to purgatory is pretty steep.
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Date:    Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:55:01 +0100
From:    Peter Castine 
Subject: Re: Lisp interpreter extern?

On around Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:10:40 +0000, mtheodore
 said something like:

>As someone who hops back at forth between text-based and graphic-based
>approaches to creating music, it occurs to me that a Max extern with a Lisp
>interpreter would be a wonderful thing. That way one could use text to
>specify
>certain precise ideas (such as the extremely useful "item stream" setup of
>Common
>Music),
>and then connect the output visually to various musical transformation
>objects in a more or less free-wheeling fashion. This isn't to say that
>you can't
>be precise
>in Max, or that you can't be free-wheeling in Lisp, but certain ideas
express
>themselves
>better in one or the other domain. Anyway, has anyone out there actually
>built
>such a thing?

Try Pyrite.

The main difference to LISP is you don't get Lost In Spurious
Parentheses;-)

Cheers,

Peter

PS for the humor-challenged: yes, I know the differences to LISP are a
little more than purging the syntactical plethora of parensethes, but I
couldn't ignore the opportunity to mention the _true_ resolution of the
venerable programming language's acronym.

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Date:    Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:51:02 -0800
From:    Christopher Murderer 
Subject: Test message from Admin, please ignore.

Just testing some automated features... all will be revealed soon.

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Date:    Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:17:59 -0500
From:    Ken Gregory 
Subject: Anteck Wind Machine found!

Hi.

Someone a month or so ago was looking for an Anteck Wind Machine.

I saw one this morning at

 Long and McQuade Musical Instruments
 651 Stafford Street
Winnipeg, Manitoba
Canada R3M 2X7

ph 204-285-8992

It was 99$ ca. They take Visa and Mastercard.

Cheers,
ken

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