Subject: MAX Digest - 1 Nov 1998 to 2 Nov 1998 (#1998-57)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:00:00 -0500
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Topics of the day:

  1. Please be easy to understand
  2. pay for 3.5.8 Key Disk ?
  3. Outdoor installation
  4. hex objects available
  5. Max test and key disks

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Date:    Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:53:18 +0100
From:    Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green 
Subject: Please be easy to understand

Please write your messages simply.
It'a a pain for non english language nativ
to read lost of your messages.
Thank you to make yourself as clear as possible.

Roland Cahen


Date:    Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:42:55 +0100
From:    Oeyvind Brandtsegg 
Subject: pay for 3.5.8 Key Disk ?

I contacted the Norwegian Max Distributor today,
to get an updated key disk for 3.5.8.
They told me I had to pay an amount equivalent to US$40 for the new key
and that it didn't matter if I turn in the old key disk or not.
I find it rather crazy that *I* have to pay for Opcode upgrading their
copy-protection scheme, and wanted to hear if this is common practice.

Sorry for posting this question, as it has been debated endlessly
before, but it seems like this is a damned boomerang of a subject,
always coming back.

Oeyvind Brandtsegg


Date:    Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:38:31 +0100
From:    Sukandar Kartadinata 
Subject: Outdoor installation

Recently I used a Boss SP-202 for a 3-month (maybe 1-year) installation. It
stores samples on FlashROM; with max. 4min27sec (or 35min LoFi) if you use
the extra memory cards. This box is actually a DJ performance sampler
(whatever that means) but seems to work fine with our installation. It's a
stereo device and has limited polyphony plus some effects. Dunno how it'll
cope with low temperatures though. If you can't provide a halfway dry and
above freezing point environment, you really need that military stuff.
However, my guess would be that FlashRom can tolerate more than anything
mechanical. Like Harddisks.

In that same installation I used a PIC micro controller. OK, that means
assembler (or "low-level C"). You could use the BASICstamp kits; they're
easier to program. In any case I would throw in some optocouplers to shield
the CPU from the sensors.
I do design and build hardware for these kinda things, so let me know; also
if you want to go for the PLC or the bare-bone TTL version Robert Henke
This part could be made to military specs, however it's quite expensive and
it doesn't help the sampler.

Sukandar Kartadinata
Custom Music Technology
Hagenauerstr. 6, 10435 Berlin, 030-44051219


Date:    Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:40:37 -0800
From:    Peter Elsea 
Subject: hex objects available

I have added some new objects to the group recently posted at

These objects support hex notation in a new way. Since hex values entered
as 0xsomething in message boxes and as arguments to objects have the
annoying habit of reverting to decimal when the object is duplicated or the
patcher is saved and reopened, I have devised a scheme for a more
persistent hex notation. If hex data is entered as 00h etc, Max sees that
as a symbol and leaves it alone. The keys to this system are Lhex and Llong:

*Llong- converts symbols of format 00h (up to FFFFFFFFh) into ints. Other
symbols and ints are left alone, floats are converted to ints.

*Lhex- (yes, I wrote this on Halloween) converts ints from 0 to 255 into
hex symbols of format 00h. The range is restricted to prevent symbol abuse-
all 256 possibliities are gensymed and stored so it will work in overdrive.

Some of the other objects, such as Lsx and a revised Label deal directly
with this notation, but Llong and Lhex should make it work in nearly any

I'm still tinkering with them, and solicit your comments and suggestions.

Peter Elsea
Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz


Date:    Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:45:47 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Max test and key disks

The test version of Max I mentioned a few days ago had a
problem with 3.5.8 key disks.

If you have already authorized your hard disk it
will work fine. However, if you try to use a 3.5.8 key disk
to authorize it, you won't get very far. The problem has been
fixed and if you just want to download the updated Max
application, you can get it from

The entire Max folder (now updated) is still at

David Z.


End of MAX Digest - 1 Nov 1998 to 2 Nov 1998 (#1998-57)