Subject: MAX Digest - 22 Oct 1998 to 23 Oct 1998 (#1998-47)
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There are 11 messages totalling 353 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. rol upgmodrades clude a speciinal joypanning/stickeaker >ule and spe5.1
  2. bondo - not float-savy!
  3. More on Digi(was:MSP and Digi Sound Drivers)
  4. lcd object font size? (2)
  5. frequency divider
  6. Piezos
  7. rol upgmodrades clude a speciinal joypanning/stickeaker >ule and
     spe5.1
  8. rol upgmodrades clude a speciinal joypanning/stickeaker >ul
  9. max & plaintalk speech recognition
 10. Programming question

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Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:19:14 -0600
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: rol upgmodrades clude a speciinal joypanning/stickeaker >ule and
spe5.1

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>1.) New Hardware- 24bit/96K
>The 888/24 will be replaced with 888/24-96. And it will be modular-with
>the option of what type of ports you want (A-to-D, D-to-A, Light Pipe,
>AES etc.)
>
>-New cards that can handle the higher sampling rate and still offer
>enough DSP for serious mixing. (suggested system is Mac G4 @1000 mHz)
>
>2.)  5.1 surround is addressed with a completely new mix environment!
>Surround panning on every channel and a very well designed graphic
>interface . ProControl upgrades include a special panning/joystick
>module and 5.1 speaker monitor control.
>Special 5.1 mix plugins take  advantage of the new multichannel system (
>6 channel reverbs,DDL's, compressors etc. )And the bounce to disk
>function will bounce to 6 tracks for DVD mastering! MLDVD (Master List
>DVD) will also be announced . ( which will work directly with ProTools,
>not as a separate application)
>
>3. A new midi sequencer upgrade. With 1000 ticks/beat - its the tightest
>sequencer since the Synclavier.  And Digi cut a deal with Sonic Foundry
>to port in their Acid software to be native in ProTools!
>
>4. Sample Cell III- 24bit/96K, 256 voices all with less than 1 ms.
>trigger time! It reads Akai, Roland and EMU discs, and instead of using
>RAM the voices can access the hard drive directly! The sequencer will
>trigger Sample Cell III directly,thus transcending  MIDI delay timing
>slop .

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Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:06:08 +0200
From:    "Dr. Karlheinz Essl" 
Subject: bondo - not float-savy!

Dear MAXers!

I just found out that the good ol' "bondo" object currently only works with
ints, but not with floats (they become truncated in the output).

I would be happy if this could get fixed - I hope that David Z. would be
willing to do it when his time allows it.

Thanks and cheers,

   Dr. Karlheinz Essl - Composer
   Vienna / Austria
   Studio for Advanced Music & Media Technology
   http://www.essl.at/

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Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:26:14 +0000
From:    Neville John Cross 
Subject: More on Digi(was:MSP and Digi Sound Drivers)

David Z. Wrote to Jon Witte:

> If I could support the Nubus Protools cards, I would. But
> Digi won't release information for "direct" support of their
> cards and they aren't actively supporting Nubus cards with
> their Direct I/O driver, which is what I use with MSP. I
> looked into using DAE with MSP (which would allow support
> for all Protools systems) but it only plays sound coming
> from the hard disk, so it doesn't make any sense to use
> with something like MSP, which is more like a synthesizer.
> You may be able to use the Protools card with the Digidesign Sound
> Manager driver, but that driver is completely lame and will
> only do input or output but not both at the same time. And
> there isn't any indication from Digidesign that this will ever
> be fixed (although I know they feel bad about it).
>

Hey Jon!
                I won't know for sure until I receive the New Tech 240
card,but,
after a few preliminary tests it looks as if I _will_ have the same
problems as you.
I can get digital sound into my 7100 with the 882 I\O but when I turn off
MSP's 'adc' Max freezes.*sigh*

Why have Digidesign refused to release information for support of these
cards?
I believe 'Peak' had a similar refusal a while back.
I think they should be more flexible with their older products.

May Digidesign rot in h*ll!!! (p'rahs their drivers are already there)

Jon-thanks for all the info on Digi and Mac AV
Regards,
NJC

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Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:59:40 +0300
From:    Jukka Ylitalo 
Subject: lcd object font size?

hello maxers,

is it possible to change the font size in the text written onto lcd
object?

jukka y

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Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:39:23 +0100
From:    david stevens 
Subject: frequency divider

hi all,

I'm finding that the source sound that I'm running through my filter banks
instrument doesn't seem to have enough low frequency energy to create a
sub-bass
tone. It occurs to me that perhaps I can run the filter that I'm using to
create
the subbass sound an octave higher, and then use a frequency divider to drop
the
pitch of the sound back down an octave.

so - is this possible with MSP, would it be very processor intensive (the
filter
banks are using around 80% at the moment, so there's not a lot of leeway),
and -
how do i do it!?

thanks in advance

david

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Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:57:04 -0400
From:    Chris Murtagh Hrdc-drhc 
Subject: Piezos

Warning, this message contains content that could be considered commercial
propaganda by some. *Read at your own risk.*

For those of you who requested info  re: hand made piezos, here's the
scoop:

 A friend of mine (his name is Dave Barns), who is a electronics and MIDI
buff hand makes quarter sized, rubber coated piezo 'Slapstix' (with an RCA
connection), available in 4 colours: Red, Blue, Yellow and Black. Pretty
nifty little gadgets. He also informed me that he has a new (also hand
made) gadget that he is offering, he calls it SlapFace. This is a package
that contains:

8 Slapstixs
1 Interface box (with Midi In and Out)
plus harnesses etc.

 The SlapFace allows the user to turn him/herself into a human percussion
machine by placing the piezos in strategic locations on his/her body (with
the velcro harnesses). The interface serves as a Voltage to Midi converter
eliminating the need to find an old drum brain, and it is also programmable
via Midi, so that a simple note on message will set midi note# for each
piezo. It will also allow for sustain etc. if needed.

Dave hand makes and tests all units himself, so don't expect to be able to
order large volumes (yet), but he is pretty quick at making them. His
contact info is:

Trigger Dynamics
1020 Bewdley Ave.
Victoria, B.C.
V9A 6S9
Canada

(250) 383-6587

 Being somewhat of a unique individual, Dave is not Internet connected (no
www or email - yet), so phone and snail mail are the only ways to contact
him for the moment. If you want, you can contact him through me (if these
options are too expen$ive/slow).

Chris
---------------------------------
To say that Windows 95 is just like Mac OS is like finding a potato in the
shape of Jesus and thinking you have witnessed the second coming.

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Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:57:35 -0400
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: lcd object font size?

>is it possible to change the font size in the text written onto lcd
>object?
>jukka y

Consulting the "Max Addendum 3.5" manual, we find:

LCD

font
The word font, followed by two numbers, specifies a font id and a
font size to be used.... [snip].

Stephen Kay

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Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:17:32 -0700
From:    Richard Zvonar 
Subject: Re: rol upgmodrades clude a speciinal joypanning/stickeaker >ule
and
         spe5.1

At 5:19 AM -0700 10/23/98, =cw4t7abs wrote:

>>1.) New Hardware- 24bit/96K

>>2.)  5.1 surround is addressed with a completely new mix environment!

>>3. A new midi sequencer upgrade. With 1000 ticks/beat - its the tightest

>>4. Sample Cell III- 24bit/96K, 256 voices all with less than 1 ms.

Please elucidate.  Is this a Digidesign press release or someone's wish
list?

______________________________________________________________________________
Richard Zvonar, PhD                              zvonar@LCSaudio.com
(818) 788-2202 voice                             zvonar@well.com
(818) 788-2203 fax                               zvonar@alum.mit.edu

                          http://www.well.com/~zvonar

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Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:15:45 -0400
From:    Chris Murtagh Hrdc-drhc 
Subject: Re: rol upgmodrades clude a speciinal joypanning/stickeaker >ul

From: "Richard Zvonar" , on 10/23/98 1:17 PM:
>Please elucidate.  Is this a Digidesign press release
>or someone's wish list?

 It actually came from the DAW-MAC listserv. Nobody there knows if it is
for real or someone 'trick or treatin' a bit early. As of yet, no official
word (to confirm OR deny) from Digidesign.

Chris
---------------------------------
To say that Windows 95 is just like Mac OS is like finding a potato in the
shape of Jesus and thinking you have witnessed the second coming.

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Date:    Sat, 24 Oct 1998 03:43:28 +0200
From:    jose manuel berenguer 
Subject: max & plaintalk speech recognition

hi

does anyone know if there is a max object suporting the plaintalk speech
recognition capabilities?

could i manage apple events in max? as i can understand i could do this in
director's lingo, but i don't see how to do it in max reference.

how could i control a max patch from a browser? there is a plug-in for any
comercial browser to do this?

thanks for any help and ideas on how to build a linguistic listening
machine in max.

___________________________________________________________________________
Jos=E9 Manuel Berenguer
Coclea                                          Orquestra del Caos
tel/fax 34-(9)3-2842917                         tel 34-(9)3-3064137
tel/fax 34-(9)72-795002                         fax 34-(9)3-3064113
jmcoclea@lix.intercom.es                        caos@cccb.es
http://usuarios.intercom.es/coclea              http://www.cccb.es/caos
___________________________________________________________________________

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Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:36:34 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: Programming question

Warning: This is not of particularly general interest.

Todor Todoroff  writes:

>In MSP, I allocate memory with newhandle (is this the right method?
>rather well for two complex modules I wrote, but I seldomly experienced
>crashes when load a patch: the computer doesn't crash, but the modules
don't
>function correctly and I have to reload the patch) and, if succesful I
>create the object with
>   x = (t_module *)newobject(module_class);

OK, there are a lot of things going on in the above paragraph.
First of all, you have a couple of strategies. One is to make
the actual structure of t_module relatively small and
have pass pointers to the largish data. newobject will return
0 if there's not enough memory, you could just test for that
which is better than doing a newhandle for various reasons.

I don't really know what else you're saying.

>) I experienced immediate crashes when setting audio on when initialising a
>rather short vector of 2048 floats with
>   set_zero(float *dest, long int);
>in module_dsp(t_module *x, t_signal **sp, short *count)

Don't have a lot to say here. Was the vector allocated as
2048 bytes or 2048 * sizeof(float)? In any case, there are no
particular limitations as to what you can do in a "dsp" method.

David Z.

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