Subject: MAX Digest - 24 Sep 1998 to 25 Sep 1998 (#1998-12)
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Topics of the day:

  1.  (2)
  2. msp:envelopes (3)
  3. MAX Digest - 23 Sep 1998 to 24 Sep 1998 (#1998-11)
  4. The Piano of Light
  5. delicate msp software
  6. imac girl (2)
  7. SAMT Re: -108 - there was not enough memory
  8. various
  9. jmax = grat!z
 10. Thanks
 11. iomega Buz Video tested

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Date:    Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:19:33 -0500
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: 

>Date:    Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:24:16 +0100
>From:    jerome joy 
>this development proposes to use the
>server memory as a sampling machine where several sound samples were put
>on. The different actions which would be possible are: volume control with
>mouse, processes launches, and so on. For now, the parameters included into
>the HTML and Javascript language are too limited to develop more complex
>processes on-line.

http://194.19.130.194/spCa/zweite

m9ndfukc++

>Actually, I use vocal synthesis, midifiles, and audio
>(aiff, wav, au files) mixes and montages on-line. I seek for more precision
>and to access for more audio parameters.

java \-\ zucz

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Date:    Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:31:29 -0700
From:    Adam Schabtach 
Subject: Re: msp:envelopes

>i would prefer a kind of exponential/log.  curvature instead of the linear
>one provided by the above mentioned way.

I suspect that the curve~ object will address your preferences nicely.

--Adam
Adam Schabtach                          nebulous@earthlink.net

"It all probably fits together in the end, and I don't care
 if it doesn't."               --Brian Eno

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Date:    Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:39:39 -0500
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: 

>Anyone here using Unix/Linux for any Midi or Audio work

9

> (like Miller
>Puckette's 'pd')?

\+\ abandon msp - mak!ntosh s!gnl prozens!ng +?
evn dzo pd =3D grat!s d!sz !=3D dez!rabl

> If so, I would really like to hear from you (please email
>me directly at my McGill account --> chris@music.mcgill.ca).

b!en.sur.

>  We (some
>McGill music students and I) are trying to put together a list of
>Unix/Linux users for Multi-Media and Audio/Music.

http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linux_soundapps.html#swss

>* Windows 95: n.   32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit
>patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit
>microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of
>competition.
>
 !=3D or!g!nl hensz !t <=3D> 1 v!ndouz msg

>Subject: video sampler

>>about pose Hans Tutschku wrote:
>>Yes nice, but with an unpredictable delay between the pressed key and the
>>start of the video (tested on several machines G3)
>does anyone know if any of those delays go over 50 milliseconds?

1

\+\ demo ava!bl on dze net

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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:45:24 -0400
From:    "T. J. Lindgren" 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 23 Sep 1998 to 24 Sep 1998 (#1998-11)

Brian Shepard wrote:

>>I recently upgraded to a new G3 Minitower running System 8.1 w/96Mb of
>>RAM.  When I try to launch the OMS setup application I get a message
>>that says:
>>
>>"Sorry, OMS could not be loaded
>>(-108 - there was not enough memory)"

Brian,

If you're using FreeMIDI, make sure that "Emulate OMS" is
unchecked in your FreeMIDI preferences.  Using FreeMIDI to emulate OMS
in addition to running the OMS extension will cause this error message.

Cheers,

T. J. Lindgren
Pianist/Computer Musician
Peabody Conservatory of
Johns Hopkins University

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Date:    Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:44:45 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: msp:envelopes

Robert Henke  writes:

>i am not happy with my cheap envelope generators i am using in msp
>right now :
>( sending a list with levels and times to a line~  object and use the
>output to sclae a signal)
>i would prefer a kind of exponential/log. curvature instead of the linear
>one provided by the above mentioned way.
>has anyone a good solution?

Have you tried the curve~ object? It's like line~, only exponential.

David Z.

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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:38:13 +0200
From:    Jeffrey Burns 
Subject: The Piano of Light

On October 10 and 11 at the Schreyahner Herbst Festival in Plattenlaase,
Germany, there will be two performances of

         JEFFREY BURNS - THE PIANO OF LIGHT

                 a multimedia spectacle

As in the previous performances, a MIDI-fied Steinway concert grand is
connected via Mac to a video projector and 120 colored spotlights (last
time it was 60), which are pointed in all directions of the domed ceiling.
Music by Gerald Humel, Morton Feldman, Lutz Glandien, Georg Katzer and
Alexander Scriabin. Dance: Susanne Kirchner. DMX 512 interface (LanBox LC
II): CDS advanced technology bv.

Ticket reservations: Peter Radloff (49 5841) 126254 or 1260

CALL FOR COMPOSITIONS:
Composers who would like to write for future PIANO OF LIGHT concerts should
get in touch with me.

http://www.snafu.de/~jeff

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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:19:39 -0700
From:    jhno 
Subject: delicate msp software

i am reminded that i have been sitting on some potentially interesting
max/msp patches. if you are interested, check out my site,
http://www.sirius.com/~ear and click on software, wherein you will find
ensconced many max-based projects, including:

-- looper 1.5

looper is the most useful of the batch, i think. imagine three tape loops,
that you can record into in real-time, playing back with variable (and
reverse) speed, through resonant filter, volume, and pan stages. all the
controls can be automated through a modulation matrix that lets you set up,
for example, a random algorithmic sound collage machine.

the new version includes recording to disk, audio file import/export,
filter bypass, variable loop lengths, etc. it also includes some
rudimentary documentation (!)

-- cellsound

this is a really fun, cellular automata based synthesizer. it is a sort of
harmonic, additive synthesis system comprised of 25 sine waves. the
frequency and amplitude of each sine wave is determined by an algorithm
that goes something like this: look to your nearest neighbor, and move
toward the closest harmonic of its frequency. what happens is that the
system will settle into just-intonation harmonic chords. you can see the
layout in a big multislider. you can perturb the system by moving the
sliders around or just scribbling with the mouse, and it will move back
into a stable, just-intonation chord at a rate you can specify.

i should write more about this, as its development, future potential, and
philosophical implications are all extremely interesting to me. but for now
there is no documentation, just check it out, listen, and tweak.

-- life filter

this is another audio cellular automata, based on bill vorn's "life" max
object. you can see the "game of life" progressing on a familiar 50x50
grid. but you can also hear it: i mapped the pixel values into a buffer~
and use that to modulate an fft~ (based on the forbidden planet msp
example). the result is sculpted noise (or whatever you pipe into it) that
follows the animation of the life pixels. so if you see a glider moving
across the screen, you can hear it as well, as rising pitches.

i am working on expanding this, utilizing scott draves' amazing bomb
object. i already have a way to map bomb pixels into an fft buffer - but
there are some computational efficieny problems to solve... :)

also on my software site is a sysex librarian, and a little applet that
makes the automated faders of an 02r console go bananas. coming soon will
be a real-time, controllable and modulatable granular synthesizer.

any feedback on the above projects greatly appreciated...

---

>Aaw, I wish I could be there. I love jhno's work (kwno is terrific)
>and have been wanting to see his space for years. (Can I come and
>visit sometime, John?)

thanks, anytime... i think i will be in this space for a while - but not
forever. a friend of mine was just telling me about his plans to build big
domes on a barge that would float out around sausalito - i always wanted a
round studio...

-jhno

() ))  (  ((( ))   ) ))))) ( )((()) (  ( ))   (  )    ) (   ((( )  (()( (()
delicate ear                                                 ear@sirius.com
san francisco, ca                                http://www.sirius.com/~ear

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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 1998 06:53:21 +0200
From:    "Dr. Karlheinz Essl" 
Subject: Re: msp:envelopes

Robert Henke wrote:

> i am not happy with my cheap envelope generators i am using in msp right
> now :
> ( sending a list with levels and times to a line~  object and use the
> output to sclae a signal) i would prefer a kind of exponential/log.
> curvature instead of the linear one provided by the above mentioned way.

Use ~curve instead - an exponenatial version of ~line which does exactly
what you need.

Cheers,

   Dr. Karlheinz Essl - Composer
   Vienna / Austria
   Studio for Advanced Music & Media Technology
   http://www.essl.at/

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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:59:28 +0000
From:    Carlton Joseph Wilkinson 
Subject: imac girl


http://www.din.or.jp/%7Etoy/tb/tb20e.html


A Papagana for Papagano? Is that the implication here?
What's wrong with her right eye?

--Carlton

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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:46:16 +0200
From:    Andreas Weixler 
Subject: SAMT Re: -108 - there was not enough memory

>------------------------------
Hi Brian,

I have this trouble sometimes too, but not only with OMS also with other
application, as there is not enough memory to run the clickstarter (500k
!!) or to close a window, allthoug I too have 88 MB inside my 7200/90 and
there are for example 60 MB left ! After a restart it works fine until the
next time...
I formated the HD and installed everything new and only things I need, but
still the same strange effect. Could it be a hardware problem ?
Has anyone else such a expirence ?
Some friends in grafic arts said they sold all 7200 because of a special
problem with grafic software...., true, a rumor ?
Has it to do with the RAM Blocks ? I Have 8, 16 and 64 MB and the biggest
in the first slot - ok, it is strange, but has historical roots.. $;-)..and
the 7200 has no interleave which needs pairs of RAM, but some Macs do !
What does You memory consist of ?

>
>Date:    Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:12:02 -0500
>From:    "Brian K. Shepard" 
>Subject: OMS Setup
>
>Greetings,
>
>I recently upgraded to a new G3 Minitower running System 8.1 w/96Mb of RAM.
>When I try to launch the OMS setup application I get a message that says:
>
>"Sorry, OMS could not be loaded
>
>(-108 - there was not enough memory)"
>
>I tried vastly increasing the amount of memory available to OMS Setup to no
>avail.  I also downloaded the newest version of OMS, thinking perhaps I was
>missing some component, but it still won't work.  Any ideas?  Thanks.
>
>

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Bruckner-Conservatory Linz/ Austria
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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:25:09 -0400
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: imac girl

>http://www.din.or.jp/%7Etoy/tb/tb20e.html

>A Papagana for Papagano? Is that the implication here?
>What's wrong with her right eye?

She's suffering from a severe case of Japanimation.  But I love her - she=

now graces my desktop - and I don't even have an iMac.

Stephen Kay

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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:27:12 -0700
From:    Peter Elsea 
Subject: various

>I thought Affirmative Action had been rightly outlawed in the US...?
Nope, only in the state of California. And if you wonder how we can operate
under one set of federal laws and a conflicting set of state laws, you'll
realize why we're all a bit crazy out here.

>i am not happy with my cheap envelope generators i am using in msp right
>now :
>( sending a list with levels and times to a line~  object and use the
>output to sclae a signal)
>i would prefer a kind of exponential/log.  curvature instead of the linear
>one provided by the above mentioned way.

I suggest you try curve~

>"Sorry, OMS could not be loaded
>(-108 - there was not enough memory)"

Do you get this when you launch Max? or only OMS setup?
Try throwing away:
Any setups
System:OMS Preferences: OMS current state
Drivers for interfaces you don't have.

Peter Elsea
Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz
http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/index.html
 elsea@cats.ucsc.edu

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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:47:17 -0500
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: jmax = grat!z

>jMax will be available for free download on IRCAM's ftp and http site
>starting the beginning of November 98, with a basic set of DSP libraries
>and documentation. A full-featured version, including more complete
>documentation, support, tutorials and an extensive set of IRCAM librairies
>and patches, is available through the registration, on a yearly basis, to
>IRCAM's Forum (user group, see http://www.ircam.fr/forum/).
>
>For more information and for the download, please browse on IRCAM's Web
>site at : http://www.ircam.fr/jmax/

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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:53:12 -0500
From:    "Brian K. Shepard" 
Subject: Thanks

Thanks to those who responded to my question concerning the OMS setup
program.

>"Sorry, OMS could not be loaded
>(-108 - there was not enough memory)"

The trick is that I had checked the item "emulate OMS" in my FreeMIDI
preferences.  Unchecking this box solved the problem.  Thanks again.

--Brian

Dr. Brian K. Shepard
University of Oklahoma
School of Music
bkshepard@ou.edu
http://music.ou.edu/faculty/shepard/

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Date:    Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:33:40 -0500
From:    Johnny DeKam 
Subject: iomega Buz Video tested

As promised, I tested my new Iomega Buz Video card with Max

Here are the results:

Worked great!
The Buz is a motion jpeg hardware card and thus allows variable resolutions.
(unlike Firewire DV).  I was quite impressed by the quality... even at half
screen
resolution (352x240) The output quality was comparable to VHS,  No dropped
frames, and very responsive
to "scrubing" the video.  a nice feature of the hardware is that Half screen
resolution files
are automatically scaled to full screen NTSC output.  Another great feature
is that it has a built in Ultra SCSI controller - much much faster than the
stock G3 SCSI controller.  Another bonus is that it beefs up your audio
connections, because it uses a breakout box with heavily shield RCA
connectors.

In Max, straight playback was a breeze...
I also used hooked a random and a metro running at 50 ms to imovie, and the
video happily
jumped around to a differant frame with each bang.

I also tested video recorded at full frame (720x480) As you would expect, it
wasn't nearly as responsive in the random seek and scrub tests, but it
played backed smoothly using the playbar.

At $300, this is a best buy in my book - as good if not better than a Radius
Videovision of yesteryear, and I think the same as the MiroMotion Cards out
there -- but you'll have to buy an Apple G3 - Iomega claims it won't work
with anything else. (including G3 upgrade cards).

-- Johnny DeKam

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