Subject: MAX Digest - 9 Sep 1998 to 10 Sep 1998
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:00:00 -0400
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There are 11 messages totalling 229 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. news, part 2
  2. Managing windows creation
  3. modifiers
  4. fat modifiers
  5. Max 4 Windows [2]
  6. max crashes 2
  7. Opcode
  8. Message for locking and unlocking patcher window?
  9. weather patterns
 10. Andy's icube
 11. MSP audio in and MacOS 8.1

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Date:    Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:36:20 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: news, part 2

Here's a little piece of news, part of my continuing series of
announcements. I signed an agreement with Steinberg today to
allow MSP to host ASIO (Audio Stream I/O) drivers. I have ASIO
working with Digi, Korg, and the Sound Manager, but the raison d'etre
for the whole project was the MOTU 2408, which ships with an
ASIO driver and unfortunately, MSP is not working with this
system yet. But MOTU has expressed interest in helping me work
out the problems. When I have it working I will release it
to the world (ASIO support is just another MSP "Audiodriver" file),
I hope that's by the end of the month.

I should also clarify that ASIO support is not a replacement
for direct support of the hardware MSP already supports. In
the case of the Digi driver, we have direct support for their
new Project II card down to 13ms I/O latency, with ASIO, it's

David Z.


Date:    Wed, 9 Sep 1998 23:26:38 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: Managing windows creation

Laurent Cerveau  wants to know
how to get a Macintosh GrafPtr/WindowPtr out of the Max
t_wind structure. Here's how: if w is a pointer to a t_wind,
w->w_wind points to the GrafPort.

Warning: this direct access to the GrafPort structure will break
in the next major release of Max. You'll have to use a macro
instead. Details to be provided well in advance.

David Z.


Date:    Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:45:58 -0700
From:    dudas 
Subject: Re: modifiers

A FAT version of Ellison's modifiers object _should_ be on the IRCAM FTP
somewhere, I think. Probably in the Max/FAT/utilities folder... there
should be a .sea.bin called EllisonFAT or something like that.

Could you shed some light on this, Yafa, or whatever your name is, Greta?



Date:    Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:36:25 +0200
From:    Danny Wiseburgh 
Subject: fat modifiers

>From:    Don Malone 
>Subject: modifiers
>is there a PPC version of Ellisons modifiers

yes. you can find fat modifiers in "EllisonFAT" - DL it from the ircam ftp
site or the mirror.

Danny Wiseburgh
iCODE Systems Ltd.


Date:    Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:39:06 +0200
From:    Danny Wiseburgh 
Subject: Max 4 Windows [2]

David Z. Wrote:

>Cycling '74 concluded two agreements yesterday with Opcode. The
>first of these agreements will allow my company to develop
>new versions of Max, including a version for Windows NT that
>is projected for mid-1999 release.

Will Max applications created on the Windows NT platform work under Windows
95/98 ?
Does this meen that Max itself wont run Windows 95/98 ?

Danny Wiseburgh
iCODE System Ltd.


Date:    Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:14:19 +0000
From:    Andy Gracie 
Subject: max crashes 2


thanks for the quick response. I'm pretty sure my patch is good. It's fairly
simple - just an i cube object with 4 outlets, 4 number boxes, 4 makenotes
and 4 noteouts. I've also had the same crash trouble with other patches I've

it's got to be something else....



Date:    Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:35:18 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Opcode

A couple of people have asked me what happened to Opcode, as
their web site has been down for a few days.

They moved to a new location last weekend. They host their servers
in-house and something probably hasn't gone smoothly getting
everything put back together. Hey, I'm sure you've all moved at
one time in your life.

Here's the new address and phone number, by the way:

Opcode Systems
365 East Middlefield
Mountain View, California 94043-4003
Main Phone: (650) 429-2400
Main Fax:   (650) 429-2401

David Z.


Date:    Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:40:06 -0000
From:    Frederic Murray 
Subject: Message for locking and unlocking patcher window?

Hello Maxers,

I work with children and if it's possibIe I would like to have
a big button for locking and unlocking the patcher window. So,it
can replace clicking on the padlock. Any message for that?

thank you

Frederic Murray
Etudiant en musique
Universite Laval, Quebec


Date:    Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:56:45 +0800
From:    jmustard@CYLLENE.UWA.EDU.AU
Subject: weather patterns

One day it was sunny (as it usually is here in Perth in spring) and MAX
was happy pushing bytes out his various ports, then the next day - zip.
Nil. Niente. Nothing.
Other midi applications are still pushing bytes out their ports
successfully to my synths and OMS tests OK.
This is very mysterious - why has MAX suddenly decided OMS sucks and
refuses to talk to it?
Everything looks OK in the midi setup and (nothing changed since
yesterday anyway) all previously working patches send nothing to the
ports either via noteout or midiout.
Why? Why? Why?
Molto Frustrato


Date:    Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:11:18 +0800
From:    jmustard@CYLLENE.UWA.EDU.AU
Subject: Andy's icube

Andy - try plugging in the power to the icube after you have loaded the
patch in MAX. Have often experienced freezes and crashes when loading
patches with icube power on. No idea why.
good luck


Date:    Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:42:37 -0700
From:    Kevin Walker 
Subject: MSP audio in and MacOS 8.1

Could someone remind me of where to find info on the intricacies of MSP
audio, MacOS 8.1, and the Monitors and Sound control panel?  I've looked
through the MSP documentation and the FAQ at cycling74, but haven't found

(The problem: The {DAC Status window} -> {input source} offers "default" as
the only choice (no popup menu of input sources).  This is indepenent of
whether {Monitors and Sound control panel} -> {sound monitoring source} is
set to 'none' or 'sound in'.  Also, in either case the adc~ object doesn't
output any signal.  I'm running MacOS 8.1 on a G3 266 desktop.  The problem
did not occur with my old 7600/MacOS 7.6.1.)

Kevin Walker


End of MAX Digest - 9 Sep 1998 to 10 Sep 1998