Subject: MAX Digest - 7 Sep 1998 to 8 Sep 1998
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Topics of the day:

  1. new-cd-object / driver hassles? (2)
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  3. 6 Sep 7 Sep
  4. new-cd-object
  5. max crashes
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Date:    Mon, 7 Sep 1998 22:43:38 +0100
From:    Carl Stone 
Subject: new-cd-object / driver hassles?

At the risk of stating the obvious, did you have adc~ connected to your
patch, with dsp status set to the CD player?

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Date:    Tue, 8 Sep 1998 00:25:04 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: new-cd-object / driver hassles?

"Dr. Karlheinz Essl"  writes:

>4) When trying to play track #1, I get no audio out, although the CD drive
>is spinning.
>
>5) When I switch to the Finder (with MAX is still running), and when I try
>to play the CD with the AppleCDAudio Player, I still get no audio signal.
>
>6) After quitting MAX, the CD starts playing.
>
>7) When I start MAX/MSP again, the CD stops.
>
>8) Quitting MAX again - the CD continues to play.
>
>9) Now starting MAX *without MSP*, opening cd.help: now everything works as
>expected!
>
>---> Maybe this is due to a conflict with MSP's audio driver??? I don't use
>any audio cards, just the SoundManager (v3.3) together with the system
>extension Apple CD-ROM (v5.4) under MacOS 8.0.
>
>Any ideas how to remedy this situation?

This is the way it's supposed to work. With MSP using the Sound
Manager, the CD player becomes an audio input source that you
can process. So, you have three options:

1. With MSP running, select "Internal CD" as the input source in the
DSP Status window and make a patch that sends the audio input
to the audio output.

2. Don't use MSP.

3. You may be able to set, in the proper Control Panel, either
"Playthrough" (Sound) or set the "Sound Monitoring Source" (Monitors
and Sound on a G3 or possibly 8.1) so that the CD plays
directly to the sound output.

David Z.

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Date:    Tue, 8 Sep 1998 03:41:09 -0500
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Date:    Tue, 8 Sep 1998 03:46:07 -0500
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: 6 Sep 7 Sep

>4) When trying to play track #1, I get no audio out, although the CD drive
>is spinning.
>
>5) When I switch to the Finder (with MAX is still running), and when I try
>to play the CD with the AppleCDAudio Player, I still get no audio signal.
>
>6) After quitting MAX, the CD starts playing.
>
>7) When I start MAX/MSP again, the CD stops.
>
>8) Quitting MAX again - the CD continues to play.
>
>9) Now starting MAX *without MSP*, opening cd.help: now everything works as
>expected!

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Date:    Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:15:55 +0200
From:    filip 
Subject: new-cd-object

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>Maybe you need to have a CD in the drive when you create the cd object?

>David Z

yes thats it! great, "cd" works fine now on my G3-powerbook...
klaus filip

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>Maybe you need to have a CD in the drive when you create the cd
object?


>David Z


yes thats it! great, "cd" works fine now on my G3-powerbook...

klaus filip

--------------562C4D79D87E8101D387EBE6-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:20:33 +0000 From: Andy Gracie Subject: max crashes Hi=20 I'm new to the list and this is my first input. I need some opinions or advi= ce. The situtation is this: I use MAX with the I-Cube system as controller, running on a PPC 5400/180= and a powerbook 1400/166. Both have plenty of RAM and minimal extensions.= I'm currently running the system as part of an interactive installation as= part of ISEA. The trouble is that the computer is regularly crashing -= error type 12 and type 2 mostly. Having cleared everything with the I-Cube= people and knowing that my computer configuration is sound I have asked a= couple of other MAX users for their interpretation of this.=20 The general consensus seems to be that I have either a compiler problem or a= memory leak. Neither of these mean much to me as I am not by nature a= programmer. What do people think out there? What is a memory leak and can= it be fixed? Has anyone had similar experience? Could my (perfectly legit)= MAX 3.5 be buggy or somehow a bad issue?? Any info anyone could give me would be VERY gratefully received. Cheers Andy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:41:02 -0500 From: =cw4t7abs Subject: konzumemorebulletpruf_+kaugumm! Re: The iMac is Terrible! =46rom: Timothy Beckett Email: tcbmle@gte.net Date: Fri Sep 04 18:37 CDT 1998 Mike Shafer wrote: : From what I've read, the iMac is going to be one of the toughest : computers to upgrade. Besides, who cares about seeing : the innards of the computer? Remember those lame neon : transparent phones? They died out after a year or so, for they : were only a short thrill. : No matter what shape or cord-reducing strategy they use, the : iMac still has one inherent and fatal flaw: : It is a MACINTOSH computer. Therefore, it is a subset of : computers. There are your real computers, like PCs, UNIX : workstations, etc., and then you have your Mac computers. : There's no software, they're terrible memory managers, they : have only 1 mouse button, and no one likes them. : The world would be a better place without Macs. : That's my two cents.... : Mike Mike, Your opinion is worth about two cents. I have been a pc user for years and refused to even look at a Mac. Guess what? I bought one and I can't believe what I've been missing. Why upgrade a perfect machine! PC's are total junk and I can give you all the evidence you could want. Have you ever bought this really cool game and you get it home, load it, reboot and guess what... Wrong video driver, not enough memory, blah, blah, blah! I love the Mac! The rest of the world can keep swallowing Bill Gates' load! On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:03:17 GMT, Scott wrote: > There's been some incredibly strong reviews of the iMac, too, > in major publications across the world. Journalists are all giddy > over the machine, and I think this is going to translate into > huge sales, especially for first-time computer users. Thanks for the link! I like the part where he described the iMac: "The iMac looks like a Gummicomputer, made of semitransparent blue-green and ice-white plastic (supposedly the same material that goes into bullet-proof glass) formed into a pod that looks like a toy air-car for one of the junio= r Jetsons." -Or- "If iMac were a car, it would be described as loaded. 'It's like the VW bug= ,' said Boger. 'When people see it, they smile and say, 'Hey, it's iMac.''" GUSH GUSH GUSH... BUY AAPL LOL! -Elixir "The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." |=7F| |=7F|9|=7F| [p-un_kT-pr_o-T=96k_oL] =D8 f =D8 =D8 =D8 3 |=7F| herausgegeben v=F8m !nternat!onalen !nst!tut f:ur ordnung |+| d!sz!pl!n hTTp://www.tezcat.com/~antiorp 194.19.130.194/=3Dcw4t7abs/0f0003/ztpd/lakk.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:45:54 -0500 From: =cw4t7abs Subject: 09xc869806 >>Re: The only way for Apple to stay profitable is to make PCs >>From: Phil Jones >>Not a bad idea, but here is a better one. Build Intel machines that >>run MacOS. Write MacOS to run on Intel boxes and to run Windows >>apps as if they were native Mac apps. Then people would have two >>OS choices, instead of one, and those choices would not be software >>or hardware limited. >> >>George Graves > > They already are, if I heard right. Rhapsody is being ported to the > x86 architecture to compete with NT. And Netscape is seriously > considering bundling Linux to compete with NT. Linux is the future. There's no way that Mr. Gates can buy it out, and its use is growing by leaps and bounds. Netscape will soon be bundling it. Corel is offering a Linux version of its WordPerfect word processing program for it. Everyone seems to be jumping on the bandwagon. I understand that all UNIX application programs will run on Linux. So it's goodbye WINDOWSxx and goodbye NT, and h-e-l-l-o Linux. -- It is enough if one tries every day to comprehend a little of this mystery. - Albert Einstein ------------------------------ End of MAX Digest - 7 Sep 1998 to 8 Sep 1998 ********************************************