Subject: MAX Digest - 6 Sep 1998 to 7 Sep 1998
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 00:00:00 -0400
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Topics of the day:

  1. new-cd-object / driver hassles?
  2. Max Crash - MAX Digest - 3 Sep 1998 to 4 Sep 1998
  3. Subject: MacsBug (Was: max 2.5)

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Date:    Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:23:08 +0200
From:    "Dr. Karlheinz Essl" 
Subject: Re: new-cd-object / driver hassles?

Dear MAXers!

I also encountered some problems with the new CD object which I tried to
run on my PB 3400 under MAX3.5.9 / MSP. Here a short chronology what

1) Inserting an audio CD

2) Starting MAX/MSP, opening

3) The following messages appear in the MAX window:
        CD interface type atpi
        cd: ATAPI bus 1
        cd: found 1 drives
        first track 1 last track 19
        table of contents: [... skipped ...]

4) When trying to play track #1, I get no audio out, although the CD drive
is spinning.

5) When I switch to the Finder (with MAX is still running), and when I try
to play the CD with the AppleCDAudio Player, I still get no audio signal.

6) After quitting MAX, the CD starts playing.

7) When I start MAX/MSP again, the CD stops.

8) Quitting MAX again - the CD continues to play.

9) Now starting MAX *without MSP*, opening now everything works as

---> Maybe this is due to a conflict with MSP's audio driver??? I don't use
any audio cards, just the SoundManager (v3.3) together with the system
extension Apple CD-ROM (v5.4) under MacOS 8.0.

Any ideas how to remedy this situation?


   Dr. Karlheinz Essl - Composer
   Vienna / Austria
   Studio for Advanced Music & Media Technology


Date:    Mon, 7 Sep 1998 10:06:08 +0200
From:    Martin Grube 
Subject: Re: Max Crash - MAX Digest - 3 Sep 1998 to 4 Sep 1998

>Date:    Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:20:43 +0200
>From:    Roby Steinmetzer 
>Subject: Re: Problem with MAX/MSP after crash (again)
>I'm a little late with this:
>>And there's one thing that still
>>isn't fine: when clicking into the 'more objects' arrow in a max patcher,
>>the icons are missing. There are only blank squares appearing. The other
>>object icons drawn at the top of the patcher are ok.
>I have exactly the same problem.
>I think that I tried everything, reinstalling, emptying the trash, deleting
>the preferences file...
>without success.
>The only thing I did not do was de-installing Max.
>I'm sure you guess why: Yes, I'm still waiting for my replacement
>authorization disk! (it's only 3.5 months)
>So if someone has another suggestion...
>Roby Steinmetzer
>Luxembourg, Europe

You don't need your authorizazion disk when reinstalling max. You can safely
replace your Max application by a backup copy and it will work (I had to do
so a couple of times). When reinstalling Max from CD you can create a new
Max folder and the old Max folder on the hard disk will not be overwritten.
Then always leave a backup copy on your hard disk.
Look in the Max folder which items were changed recently (sort by date ...)
and replace these (application, objects, libraries). After emtying the trash
and rebooting there will be probably some temp files of Max in the trash
again. Empty again, check the Max folder again and reboot.

I locked Max now and the MSP audio lib, and hope they'll stay as they are.



Date:    Mon, 7 Sep 1998 10:06:53 +0200
From:    Martin Grube 
Subject: Re: Subject: MacsBug (Was: max 2.5)

>Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:14:17 +0200
>From:    Peter Castine 
>Subject: MacsBug (Was: max 2.5)
>But, hey, are you trying to say that Max 3.5.x _cum_ PACE doesn't disable
>my debugger?!! I'll go try this out later on. It would be a pleasant
>surprise, but I'm not overconfident. Y'sure?

I have now MacsBug 6.5.4a4 installed and it works well with Max 3.5.9 under
OS 8.1.




End of MAX Digest - 6 Sep 1998 to 7 Sep 1998