Subject: MAX Digest - 1 Sep 1998 to 2 Sep 1998
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:00:00 -0400
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There are 13 messages totalling 381 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1.  (2)
  2. Reversing sequence
  3. MacsBug (Was: max 2.5)
  4. Reversing sequence in seq object
  5. MaxFAT 3.5.9 install over 3.5.8
  6. MAX Digest - 30 Aug 1998 to 31 Aug 1998
  7. Analog to MIDI interface (2)
  8. iMac Floppy
  9. metro and overdrive
 10. Retrograde of sequence/events in detonate
 11. 2.5.2 error type 1 outcome

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Date:    Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:07:10 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: 

Matt Biederman  writes:

>I have a cable going into the modem port that terminates in a DB9
>connector. In order to check the signals coming from a Serial object
>through the modem port I've basically shorted pin 2 to pin 3 on the DB
>9. This should send the outgoing signal from the SERIAL object back into
>the modem port. I should then be able to poll the serial object and get
>the same number back.

I don't know why you would expect to get the same number back.
I'm a software person making a wild and vague guess about hardware,
something I know nothing about, but if I were a serial chip
receiving this kind of treatment, I would be upset.

David Z.

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:15:26 +0200
From:    Jeffrey Burns 
Subject: 

Can anyone tell me where to download a midi monitor program for pc?

Thanx

Jeff Burns

http://www.snafu.de/~jeff

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:56:15 -0400
From:    Holland 
Subject: Reversing sequence

        After avoiding sequencers like the plague for a while I've begun
using an occasional sequence in Max.  Yet I rarely use the seq object.
Instead, after developing a sequence I'll play it back once using the seq
object and capture the result in a coll (Borax is helpful for this, and
one of Elsea's tutorials shows an elegant solution).  Now you can play
through the sequence by stepping through the coll in any
order/direction/speed.  And, more importantly for me, you can substitute
new values on the fly.
        Some drawbacks:
        -as mentioned by others, reverse isn't true reverse
        (time to break out MSP)
        -continuous control data present in the original sequence isn't
        handled well by this approach

Nonetheless, it allows one to do more with a sequence than simply say "go
now, quickly!"

Holland Hopson

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:14:17 +0200
From:    Peter Castine 
Subject: MacsBug (Was: max 2.5)

On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:38:38 -0700 David Zicarelli
 mentioned:
>Us programmer types have Macsbug installed, so when the computer
>crashes, we know where it crashed, which is a lot more useful
>than knowing the error type.

Absolutely. And even when I'm not programming, it often lets me Escape to
Shell on a crashed application so I can save open documents in other apps
before I restart, which the "Serious System Error" DSAT ("The Bomb")
doesn't let me do.

>Of course, some software (Max 3.0
>I think) disables Macsbug so you can't figure out its
>copy-protection scheme.

I just wanted to take this opportunity to say publically that I think
this artifact of the PACE CP really sucks. (Yeah, I understand why they
do it, but I still think it sucks).

But, hey, are you trying to say that Max 3.5.x _cum_ PACE doesn't disable
my debugger?!! I'll go try this out later on. It would be a pleasant
surprise, but I'm not overconfident. Y'sure?

Cheers,

Peter

PS: I recently had correspondence with the people at Bitheadz, who don't
disable MacsBug; their software just won't run until you remove MacsBug
from your system folder. The general tenor was "whaddya need MacsBug for
if you're doing digital audio?" Grrrr.

---------------- http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/~pcastine/ ----------------
Dr. Peter Castine             |  The greatest of all faults is to be
pcastine@prz.tu-berlin.de     |  conscious of none.    -- Thomas Carlyle

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:14:33 +0200
From:    Peter Castine 
Subject: Re: Reversing sequence in seq object

Frederic Murray asked:
>I want to reverse a sequence in seq object (if notes is ACEGF, it becomes
>FGECA). After some research, it seem difficult... annybody have ideas or
>comments for make that?

I don't think anyone has mentioned that Performer/DP will let you reverse
time in a MIDI sequence.

This is obviously only a solution if you have the time to save the seq as
a MIDI file, open it in DP, reverse, save again, and re-import to seq.
(I.e., you can't do this on-the-fly in the middle of a Max patch).

Oh, yeah, it also requires that you have a copy of Performer.

Hope this helps, anyway,

Peter

---------------- http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/~pcastine/ ----------------
Dr. Peter Castine         | When I gave food to the poor, they called me
pcastine@prz.tu-berlin.de | a saint. When I asked why the poor were
                          | hungry, they called me a communist.
                          |                         -- Dom Helder Camara

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:20:27 +0000
From:    Neville John Cross 
Subject: MaxFAT 3.5.9 install over 3.5.8

I've read a few solutions,on this list, for the install of
3.5.9.Unfortunately
nothing seems to work...3.5.9 still asks for the key disk each time.
I've run out of ideas! Can anyone suggest a solution?
BTW - I'm using a Mac 7100/80 nubus.

I'm sure the 3.5.9 install problem has been discussed 'ad nauseam'  on this
list.Please accept my apologies,but I must be able to use this version of
Max
without inserting the Key disk each time *yawn*...thanks Opcode :(

When I bought Max 3.5(recently) Opcode could only supply 3.5.8. Why?

Best Wishes,
Keith

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:30:49 -0400
From:    Don Malone 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 30 Aug 1998 to 31 Aug 1998

> I want to reverse a sequence in seq object (if notes is ACEGF, it becomes
> FGECA). After some research, it seem difficult... annybody have ideas or
> comments for make that?

i have some patchers that read any smf
then you can
loop
reverse
invert
compress
expand
fragment
& much more
too much to post here
but if you are interested send me an email request

happy tunes
Don

312)341-6477
414)736-9434

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:43:32 +0100
From:    Vincent Puig 
Subject: Analog to MIDI interface

>
>> Date:    Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:05:10 -0400
>> From:    Chris Murtagh Hrdc-drhc 
>> Subject: Re: Joysticks for Max/Mac?
>>
>>
>>  If this is a lasting and good $$ gig, and you like to fidget with
>> electronic gear, I would strongly suggest getting an iCube. ......
>
>get a look at this URL , iCube is one among other solutions to interface
the
>real world
>
>http://www.ircam.fr/equipes/analyse-synthese/wanderle/Gestes/Externe/compar
>ison.html
>
>I did'nt try yet any of those solution.
>The question is always the same : which one to choose ?
>The answer always begin with : " it depends on the purpose ..."
>
>Another way to look into :  I know that IRCAM is under development for a
>midi to
>interface device.
>Can we have few words on the  progress report please  (V. Puig, ...)
>thanks,
>
>ciao
>

YES an interface for transforming all analog infomations comming from
sensors to MIDI is currently build by Emmanuel Flety at IRCAM. It has been
tested succefully by Butch Rovan with his glove and saxophone and buy
Emmanuel with his guitar. A new prototype should come up in the next weeks.
Anyone interested can check the page :

http://www.ircam.fr/produits-real/logiciels/Atomic-e.html

And tell me (this will help me to decide how many boxes we must manufacture
(it will be subcontracted since Ircam is no longer commited in hardware).

Vincent Puig
IRCAM
1 place Igor Stravinsky
75004 Paris
France
Tel: 01 44 78 49 59
Fax: 01 44 78 15 40
email : puig@ircam.fr

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:25:13 +0100
From:    Guenther Albrecht 
Subject: Re: iMac Floppy

Hi all,

in the recent (18th) issue of the (very very fine) german computer
magazine ct there is a in-depth iMAC article. they looked at the
motherboard, and - whoops! - it has the floppy interface & even the pins
soldered on the board. so, to get a floppy (and loose the Apple
warranty), you just have to solder the plug to these pins, connect a
floppy cable (that goes thru a custom made hole) & floppy - you are set
up now as the system loads the floppy driver. they tried this & printed
a photo...
looks like apple was not shure if they would include a floppy, so the
mainboard is constructed to let us use one. the soldering is not for
beginners, but with someone doing regular soldering work on motherboards
it seems to pose no problem.
so: MAX will work on iMacs, too!

regards

.g.a.

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:56:33 +0000
From:    Carlton Joseph Wilkinson 
Subject: metro and overdrive

I enabled Overdrive, as per suggestion, and it works fine now. Many
thanks.

(I hereby solemnly swear to read the manual before submitting anymore
silly questions to the list.)

--Carlton

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:55:56 -0400
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: Analog to MIDI interface

>Vincent Puig:
>YES an interface for transforming all analog infomations comming from
>sensors to MIDI is currently build by Emmanuel Flety at IRCAM. It has be=
en
>tested succefully by Butch Rovan with his glove and saxophone and buy
>Emmanuel with his guitar. A new prototype should come up in the next
weeks.
>Anyone interested can check the page :

>http://www.ircam.fr/produits-real/logiciels/Atomic-e.html

>And tell me (this will help me to decide how many boxes we must
manufacture
>(it will be subcontracted since Ircam is no longer commited in hardware)=
=2E
>

OK, I looked - I'm interested.  How much?

Stephen Kay

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:56:32 -0000
From:    Frederic Murray 
Subject: Retrograde of sequence/events in detonate

Hello Maxers,

first, thank you to everyone who give me informations for
make a retrograde of a sequence. Please continue to give me ideas
or comments. The difficulty is that I have to make it in real time...

second, is there a simple way (message?) for know the number of
events in detonate?
(excuse poor English)

Thank you

Frederic Murray
Etudiant en musique
Universite Laval, Quebec
aae052@agora.ulaval.ca

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Date:    Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:41:52 -0400
From:    David Crandall 
Subject: 2.5.2 error type 1 outcome

The solution to the error 1 problem turned out to be: pulling 16 MB of the
computer's original 32M of memory, leaving me with 80 MB.  Now Max starts
fine. I have no idea why this is so, and the extensions thing didn't pan
out.  The problem occurred if *anything* was loaded, including Extension
Manager; it would only start up if the system had been booted with the
shift key down.

So my problem is solved for now, but if anyone has any other insight,
please speak up.  I might be able to use that extra 16 MB someday.

dc

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