Subject: MAX Digest - 31 Aug 1998 to 1 Sep 1998
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 00:00:00 -0400
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There are 9 messages totalling 221 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. max 2.5
  2. Reversing sequence in seq object (2)
  3. Audiwerk8 card & msp
  4. metro (2)
  6. iMac MSP test results
  7. hyperprism vst plugins

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Date:    Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:38:38 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: max 2.5

David Crandall  asks:

>Do you happen to know a handy, hopefully online listing of Apple error
>types?  I also get a pretty frequent type 3 error that occurs, e.g., when
>I go online after the computer has been on for a long time.

The typology of these errors is almost totally useless for any
diagnostic purpose whatsoever.

The only one that is revealing is a type 12, which means a programmer
left a trap into the debugger in their code.

Us programmer types have Macsbug installed, so when the computer
crashes, we know where it crashed, which is a lot more useful
than knowing the error type. Of course, some software (Max 3.0
I think) disables Macsbug so you can't figure out its
copy-protection scheme.

David Z.


Date:    Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:47:04 +0200
From:    Jeffrey Burns 
Subject: Reversing sequence in seq object

>> I want to reverse a sequence in seq object (if notes is ACEGF, it becomes
>> FGECA). After some research, it seem difficult... annybody have ideas or
>> comments for make that?

Just another idea in the dark:
How about opening the MIDI file as a list in StudioVisionPro and importing
the list as a table into FileMakerPro. Then add -10000000 (or, better said,
minus the number of milliseconds in the entire MIDI file) to each number in
the timing column, re-alphabetize the table according to the timing values
(which will reverse the entire order without sacrificing the rhythm),
export back to SVPro and then make a new MIDI file for Max. I've never
tried this, but I bet there's some way to make it work. BTW, I think it
will be necessary to displace all the timing values by one row to preserve
the rhythm correctly.

Jeff Burns


Date:    Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:35:35 -0600
From:    John Abram 
Subject: Re: Reversing sequence in seq object

Frederic Murray asked:
>I want to reverse a sequence in seq object (if notes is ACEGF, it becomes
>FGECA). After some research, it seem difficult... annybody have ideas or
>comments for make that?

I have a fairly old patch to reverse almost everything in a MIDI file.  I
haven't looked at it for ages, and I know it's a rats nest, but if you'd
like it, let me know.

with best wishes,


Date:    Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:33:07 -0700
From:    Jim Wood 
Subject: Audiwerk8 card & msp

Sorry I know this was mentioned a few weeks ago,
any news about an msp audio driver for the Audiowerk 8

jim y-wood

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Date:    Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:59:16 +0000
From:    Carlton Joseph Wilkinson 
Subject: metro

Being fairly new to Max, I have a question: metro doesn't seem to run
evenly on my machine. Say in Tutorial 6, for instance, of the MSP
tutorials. I get an annoyingly erratic pulse--as if it were choosing
random milliseconds between .25 and 1.0 second instead of steady 1
second pulses.

My configuration is a PowerBase 200 (a Power Computing PowerMac clone)
with 603e, 200 mghrtz, startup drive of 1 gig int. with about 600 megs
left free, ext. 6 gig. Apple SCSI drive, 80 megs or RAM, Level II cache,
with RAM cache set at 96; virtual memory is off; appletalk is off;
Quicktime, OpenDoc and OpenTransport are all on.

So. Is my machine sick? Or just too damn slow?



Date:    Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:57:13 -0000
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: metro

> Being fairly new to Max, I have a question: metro doesn't seem to run
> evenly on my machine.

Fairly New To Max Stock Answer #419: do you have "Overdrive" enabled?

        Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL            contemporary dance projects            music synthesis and control

  "Welcome to Moscow, Mrs. Gandhi."  -- Leonid Brezhnev to Margaret Thatcher


Date:    Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:44:24 -0700
From:    Matt Biederman 


Sorry to bug you personally, but I've posted this problem to the listerv
with no result, so I hope you can help me.  We met at CNMAT for the MSP
night school and I'm in the thick of trying to drive a couple of dvd
player and a switcher. It goes like this:

I have a cable going into the modem port that terminates in a DB9
connector. In order to check the signals coming from a Serial object
through the modem port I've basically shorted pin 2 to pin 3 on the DB
This should send the outgoing signal from the SERIAL object back into
modem port. I should then be able to poll the serial object and get the
same number back.

What happens is odd. When I send "82" (ASCII for "R") for example, the
SERIAL object reports receiving a "0" and "43"
All other numbers/ASCII are also scrambled?

I am polling the serial object by sending it a bang, is this correct?

Any advice you can provide would be extremely helpful to us.  Thanks.

Matthew Biederman
151 Third Street
San Francisco, CA 94103


Date:    Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:38:22 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: iMac MSP test results

140 oscillators, no problem
150 oscillators, sounds fine but you can't operate the computer
with the keyboard or mouse (you can restart it though)

in-out latency, 35 - 38 ms, pretty much the same as a G3.

David Z.


Date:    Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:25:50 -0700
From:    Martin Gotfrit 
Subject: Re: hyperprism vst plugins

I also have had very good results w/Hyperprism plug-ins and MSP - seems to
use very little CPU and the sound quality is excellent (with both a G3 266
native audio and an AMIII). Kudos to DZ for making this easy to use and
effective processing object.

Martin Gotfrit * Associate Professor, Music Area
School for the Contemporary Arts, Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, B.C. Canada  V5A 1S6
* 604 291 3517 * fax 291 5907 *


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