Subject: MAX Digest - 6 Jul 1998 to 7 Jul 1998
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 00:00:19 -0400
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Reply-To: MAX - interactive music/multimedia standard environments
     
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There are 4 messages totalling 428 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. MSP Crackle on an 7600 (2)
  2. MAX Digest - 5 Jul 1998 to 6 Jul 1998
  3. g3 playthough

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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:35:49 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: MSP Crackle on an 7600

Jem Finer  writes:

>I'm running MSP on a 7600 for a few days but am experiencing  a lot of
>trouble with crackle.
>When I switch DSP on 9 times out of 10 there is horrible crackle. 1 time
>out of 10 I get a clean signal. The nature of the crackle changes -
>sometimes it's rhythmic, sometimes constant, sometimes loud, sometimes
>quiet. I'm using sound manager.

On some random assortment of machines, usually running 7.x systems,
there is some distortion from the adc~ object when using the
Sound Manager.

This is something I'm trying to fix in the new MSP release. Basically,
the sound manager was never meant to do input to output processing
and tricking it into doing so can backfire and bite you. If you use
System 8.1, you won't have a problem, but I don't expect anyone
to have to switch to that in order to fix "my" bug.

David Z.

PS In my vision of hell, you will meet Linda Tripp at the gates,
not Monica Lewinski. You may also meet the person who "designed"
the sound input manager...

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Date:    Tue, 7 Jul 1998 02:02:54 -0700
From:    James McCartney 
Subject: Re: MSP Crackle on an 7600

At 10:35 PM -0700 7/6/98, David Zicarelli wrote:

>PS In my vision of hell, [...]
>You may also meet the person who "designed"
>the sound input manager...

Oh you WILL meet them there, but you have to go down to the lower rings...

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Date:    Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:13:38 -0400
From:    Greg Hall 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 5 Jul 1998 to 6 Jul 1998

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How do folks turn off garbage?  Ex: when I write to the digest not only =
do I get "=3D" signs at the end of every line, but I get a big binary =
dump below my text.  It's probably all there as you are reading this.  I =
see other folks are having similar problems. =20

thanks,
greg hall
ghall@bangor.autometric.com

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There are 5 messages totalling 177 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

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  2. MSP Crackle on an 7600
  3. snd error - need help!
  4. cd object
  5. g3 playthough

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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 1998 02:38:13 -0600
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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:06:28 +0100
From:    Jem Finer 
Subject: MSP Crackle on an 7600

I'm running MSP on a 7600 for a few days but am experiencing  a lot of
trouble with crackle.
When I switch DSP on 9 times out of 10 there is horrible crackle. 1 time
out of 10 I get a clean signal. The nature of the crackle changes -
sometimes it's rhythmic, sometimes constant, sometimes loud, sometimes
quiet.
I'm using sound manager.
The CD player is fine so the wiring is not the problem.
Any idea what may be the cause of this intermittent fault ?

Thanks

Jem Finer

Kentish Town
London NW5
finer@easynet.co.uk

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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:36:05 +0800
From:    Jonathan Mustard 
Subject: snd error - need help!

I am getting the error message 'no snd resource' or 'no snd
resource' to the load message in the 'snd' object.
I have samples in the same folder as the patch, but snd does not find
them or recognise them.
What is going on?
I've noticed from other patches that use samples that they sometimes
have the samples all bundled up into a single resource file.
I did not think this was necessary though.
If it is, could someone please send me a res' file maker? (and
instructions)
Post to jmustard@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
Thanks in anticipation.
Jonathan Mustard
Old legs new moves

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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 1998 15:11:27 -0600
From:    Todd Welbourne 
Subject: cd object

Thanks to Peter Castine for his confirmation that the cd object is not =
IDE
compatible...TW

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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:37:25 -0400
From:    Leslie Stuck 
Subject: g3 playthough

>is there any way to
>disable playthrough on a G3 for MSP? It always mixes the original (dry)
>signal in with the processed (wet) one.

this is an extremely annoying feature of the g3/sys8.x combo. a =
workaround
is mentioned in (of all places) the msp documentation. you've got to =
quit
max. then go to monitors and sound and set input to none. then relaunch
max. of course, popping in a cd will cause it to play (unless this =
feature
is disabled in the quicktime options control panel), and, in fact, play
through. in that case, start all over again: quit max, etc.

two other g3 gripes: the power supply doesn't switch voltages =
automatically
(welcome to europe: bang! oops) and they forgot to put in a paper clip
hole on the zip drive!! (if a disk is stuck, you have to open up the box =
and
press the button on the drive).

the zip-hole goof-up really scares me. i mean, you've got zillions of =
bytes
whizzing through your machine, we all know that one missing semicolon
can wreak havoc in the code, and these folks forgot to drill a hole on =
the
front panel?!  makes you wonder what kind of other mistakes are lurking.

damn, that always impressed the girls when i whipped out my paper clip.

les

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Date:    Tue, 7 Jul 1998 11:24:17 -0700
From:    jhno 
Subject: Re: g3 playthough

>>is there any way to
>>disable playthrough on a G3 for MSP? It always mixes the original (dry)
>>signal in with the processed (wet) one.
>
>this is an extremely annoying feature of the g3/sys8.x combo. a workaround
>is mentioned in (of all places) the msp documentation. you've got to quit
>max. then go to monitors and sound and set input to none. then relaunch
>max. of course, popping in a cd will cause it to play (unless this feature
>is disabled in the quicktime options control panel), and, in fact, play
>through. in that case, start all over again: quit max, etc.

well, actually you don't have to quit max: you can go to the
mcmonitors&mcsound control panel and set monitoring source to none, which
turns off playthrough, and also turns off msp's input source, so then go
back to msp and set the input source to none, then back to whatever you
want the input source to be.

>the zip-hole goof-up really scares me. i mean, you've got zillions of bytes
>whizzing through your machine, we all know that one missing semicolon
>can wreak havoc in the code, and these folks forgot to drill a hole on the
>front panel?!  makes you wonder what kind of other mistakes are lurking.

this line of questioning might also be applied to the universe itself...

-jhno

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delicate ear                                                 ear@sirius.com
san francisco, ca                                http://www.sirius.com/~ear

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