Subject: MAX Digest - 21 May 1998 to 22 May 1998
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Topics of the day:

  1. Studio 4 - multiple computers (2)
  2. Opcode Tech Support - Studio 4 (2)
  3. MAX Digest - 20 May 1998 to 21 May 1998
  4. ASCII to numbers, etc
  5. gest - 20 |2| 21

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Date:    Fri, 22 May 1998 01:08:10 +0000
From:    m 
Subject: Re: Studio 4 - multiple computers

Neither of which would be fair criticisms of Opcode's domestic tech
support.  The 4 Mac techs here know how to solve problems quickly and
effectively and if they do not have an immediate solution to your problem
then they will find out the answer and get back to you as soon as possible.
Yes they are good.  However it would be helpful if your sales staff knew
about
 the
two computers.  I uses mostly Opcode products except for my midi interface.
 About
two months ago I needed to upgrade from my motu midi pocket express, which
does
handle two Macs easily.  I called Opcode sales and they assured me that none
of
their interfaces could handle two computers.  So I bought a motu midi
timepiece
which does the job fine. Having twop computers one of which handles Galaxy
and
 midi
sequencing, the other which handles audio/midi seems pretty commonplace
these
 days,
and it would be nice to be able to use all Opcode products.

Mary

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Date:    Fri, 22 May 1998 10:19:28 +0200
From:    Robert Henke 
Subject: Opcode Tech Support - Studio 4

Dear Maxers, dear James Livingston.

A week ago i did post here my problem concerning the  connection of to
computers to one single studio 4.
John Livingston did write a rude answer back ,that the MAX mailing list is
not the right place for technical problems and that i should contact
opcodes tech support people.
Well, I did - NO answer untill now, but a lot of other feedback here from
the list from people with the same problems ....
Yesterday James Livingston posted extracts from the Studio 4 user manual
concerning this topic.

Hey, James, how stupid do you think i am ???????????????????????????

I did read all your dokumentation stuff, i did all possible procedures to
exclude other hard/software as a possible problem , and i am an =
experienced
computer  - midi  user.
So, James livingston,  to reply in your style, i do not think that a max
mailing list is the right place for extracts of user manuals.

Thanx to all the people who did write me that i have not a singular =
problem

:-)

Rob.

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                                R o b e r t    H e n k e
i m b a l a n c e   computer  music
              imbalance@snafu.de

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Date:    Fri, 22 May 1998 04:39:06 -0400
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: Opcode Tech Support - Studio 4

>John Livingston did write a rude answer back ,that the MAX mailing list =
is
>not the right place for technical problems and that i should contact
>opcodes tech support people.
>Well, I did - NO answer untill now, but a lot of other feedback here fro=
m
>the list from people with the same problems ....

Has anyone tried the Opcode Tech Support lines recently?

If you do not have an auto-redialer I highly recommend =

against it.  Can you say "busy" for 2 hours? Even when
I set my auto-redialer to the task, it often gives up =

before any contact is made.

What gives? There is no waiting list - you cannot even get
in line - just a busy signal for hours on end.

Enough to disenhearten even the most dedicated Opcoder.

No doubt certain people at Opcode will say something like
"it's most busy between such and such an hour" but so what?

Where's the queue?

Stephen Kay

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Date:    Fri, 22 May 1998 12:45:15 -0000
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: Studio 4 - multiple computers

> I called Opcode sales and they assured me that none of
> their interfaces could handle two computers.

When I first identified the problems with my Studio 4 driving two
computers, I contacted Opcode's exclusive dealership and technical
support operation in the UK at that time. Their opcode systems and
product specialist informed me that the Studio 4 could not work with
two computers because it only contained one microprocessor, and that I
should consider buying a Studio 5 which (he said) contains two
microprocessors.

--
        Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL            contemporary dance projects
        http://www.cassiel.com            music synthesis and control

        NOTICE - this vessel has triple screws - keep clear of blades

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Date:    Fri, 22 May 1998 14:56:32 +0200
From:    "Mag. Andreas Weixler" 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 20 May 1998 to 21 May 1998

>From:    marc ravelomanantsoa 

>else : how can I simply trigger an audio signal ( a piezzo pickup just
>pluged in
>the audio-in of my Mac on witch I beat with my fingers ) . All I want is
>simply
>the "velocity" information of the beat. Attack level in another word.  I
don't
>need complicated envelop follower.

even without msp You could use siLevel by Takahiko Suzuki.
I used it perormances and it worked fine.

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Date:    Fri, 22 May 1998 10:31:03 -0700
From:    Peter Elsea 
Subject: ASCII to numbers, etc

ASCII numbers
>It's a list of separated ASCII characters
>(for ex. - 1 . 0 0 2 5 6 ) and I want to convert it into a single float.
>Any idea about it should be absolutely welcome...

The trick to converting ASCII characters to digits is to subtract 48. I
would convert  1 . 0 0 2 5 6  like this (using Lobjects, of course)
[make it a list]
[Lsub 48]
[Lmult 1 0 0.1 0.01 0.001 0.0001 0.00001]
[Lsum]

That does assume the decimal point is in the second character. If you don't
know where the DP is going to be, drop the list into the right inlet of
Lmatch and hit the left with 46. That will tell the location of the DP, and
you can use Lshftr to move the list around to match the Lmult.

The current version of Lobjects can be found at
http://arts.ucsc.edu/ems/music/research/Lobjects.readme.html

Studio 4
James is forgetting that Opcode bashing is our second favorite sport on
this list. However, his postings ( with their understandable air of
frustration) illustrate one point we tend to overlook- There are folks at
Opcode who do care, and they have been steadily improving customer support
in the last few years. One bit of information that James can provide might
be enlightening, have there been any updates to the studio 4 ROMs? We might
be dealing with some early release models here.

Tempo
>If you start two tempo-objects at the same time, one with 60 BPM with a
>resolution of 8, the other with 120 BPM with a resolution of 16 and a
>beat-multiply of 2, they should output numbers simultaniously.
>But they don't.
Actually, the example given works well on my system- (you can use sel 0 s
and timer to check) but many values will not. That's because 60000 / 51 is
not the same as (60000 / 102) * 2 in the floating point world.

Max to Java
>I wish I could convert max applications into small, very small java or c
>applets.
So do I, but it's not going to happen. Max is big because it has a lot it
can do, and the support code  for almost all features are bundled into your
app wether you need them or not. C compilers can check to see if library
functions are actually called and shuck out stuff because the source is
right there,  but the appmaker is simply bundling a compiled program
(Maxplay) with some data to work with (your collective).

Peter Elsea
Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz
http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/index.html
 elsea@cats.ucsc.edu

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Date:    Fri, 22 May 1998 18:05:37 -0600
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Subject: gest - 20 |2| 21

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