Subject: MAX Digest - 20 May 1998 to 21 May 1998
Date: Sat, 23 May 98 23:22:07 -0500
From: smonroe 
To: "Jon Witte" 

There are 9 messages totalling 303 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Studio 4
  2. Max on the web
  3. hardspace
  4. Easy ?? (2)
  5. MAX
  6. Studio 4 - multiple computers
  7. MAX Digest - 19 May 1998 to 20 May 1998
  8. "dialog" and Mac OS 8.0


Date:    Wed, 20 May 1998 22:02:57 -0700
From:    Ken Gregory 
Subject: Studio 4

I couldn't get the mutiple Macs option on the Studio 4 working either. We
wound up  sticking a 50$ Mac/midi 1in/3out interface on the second
Every thing works fine.

My 2 cents...


Ken Gregory
704-138 Portage Ave. East
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R3C 0A1
ph. 204-942-7510  fax 204-942-1555


Date:    Thu, 21 May 1998 09:57:20 +0200
From:    Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green 
Subject: Re: Max on the web

Damian Castaldi  wrote
>Has anyone out there used max to trigger multiple media (quicktime 3
>streaming compressed image and audio) in a netscape browser on or
>offline? We had an idea last year using director and fetch to upload
>meta refreshing pages using sensor technology in an installation. It
>worked but was slow and you couldn't really see or hear any correlation
>between the meta refreshing content and the actual human
>interaction/reaction. Any experience in terms of programming and
>applications used for both on and offline would be of interest.

I which I could convert max applications in small, very small java or c
this way, lots of creativ and artistic things would be possible for lots =
and not reserved to strong programmers anymore.
Does someone think there is any possibility of convertion of that kind?
A few years ago I did for the CICV an audiovisual interactiv greeting car=
to be sent or downloaded on the net using max LCD and QTMusic:
"MandalaElectronique" It did work well, but 350Ko is to much for most
people's e-mail.

Will you be interested in working out how to achieve reducing volume
ang making fully compatible max applcations ?

If wou want the Mandala please e-mail me your e-mail=8A
Roland Cahen


Date:    Thu, 21 May 1998 14:21:57 +0200
From:    Thierry Fournier 
Subject: hardspace

Hello Maxers,

Does anyone know if the old "hardspace" external does now exist in PPC
version ? I tried to visit Roland Hemming's web page but it doesn't seem
to work at the moment.
In other words, I am receiving floats from a PC thru a serial
connection. It's a list of separated ASCII characters
(for ex. - 1 . 0 0 2 5 6 ) and I want to convert it into a single float.
Any idea about it should be absolutely welcome...

Thierry Fournier


Date:    Thu, 21 May 1998 12:16:48 +0200
From:    Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green 
Subject: Easy ??

How can I get the number of files in a folder, is there a Folderinfo
somewhere ?
How can I get "types SDII" files from the folder object? this message, has
apparently no effect.
How can I automaticaly modify the text of an object box in runing mode ?

Roland Cahen


Date:    Thu, 21 May 1998 22:17:52 +0200
From:    Jakob Brandt-Pedersen 
Subject: MAX

I would like to know if there is any news about an upgrade of the
cd-object, so it will work with the internal IDE-cdrom-drives of the
newer Mac's?

My other question is about the tempo-object.
I think there is a sync-problem with the "beat multiplier".
If you start two tempo-objects at the same time, one with 60 BPM with a
resolution of 8, the other with 120 BPM with a resolution of 16 and a
beat-multiply of 2, they should output numbers simultaniously.
But they don't. they slowly drift away from each other.
The problem does not occur, when you set them both to 120/16.
I have tried using a common clock, but it doesn't seem to help.

Jakob Brandt-Pedersen.
Multimedia-artist - Denmark.


Date:    Thu, 21 May 1998 22:32:24 +0200
From:    Roby Steinmetzer 
Subject: Re: Easy ??

>How can I get the number of files in a folder, is there a Folderinfo object
>somewhere ?
>How can I get "types SDII" files from the folder object? this message, has
>apparently no effect.

max v2;
#N vpatcher 50 40 547 386;
#P button 151 27 15 0;
#P newex 151 51 75 196617 t b b;
#P button 151 183 15 0;
#P message 151 206 31 196617 set 1;
#P newex 151 160 94 196617 route clear;
#P message 151 78 43 196617 :Sounds;
#P message 216 78 55 196617 types Sd2f;
#P number 151 277 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P button 235 183 15 0;
#P newex 151 236 66 196617 counter;
#P user umenu 266 160 100 196645 1 64;
#X add HeiCPY;
#P newex 151 119 35 196617 folder;
#P comment 8 80 140 196617 folder containing the SDII files;
#P comment 279 79 128 196617 Sound Designer II file type;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 2 0 3 0;
#P connect 7 0 2 0;
#P connect 8 0 2 0;
#P connect 4 0 6 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P connect 11 0 10 0;
#P connect 9 0 11 0;
#P connect 9 1 5 0;
#P connect 12 0 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 4 0;
#P connect 12 1 7 0;
#P connect 13 0 12 0;
#P pop;

Roby Steinmetzer
Luxembourg, Europe


Date:    Thu, 21 May 1998 13:57:25 -0700
From:    James Livingston 
Subject: Re: Studio 4 - multiple computers

>> This is exactly the sort of thing that tech support is for,please use
>> service.
>Mailing lists are very effective for problem avoidance when under
>deadlines or for dealing with companies whose technical support is
>either non-existent or ineffectual.

Neither of which would be fair criticisms of Opcode's domestic tech
support.  The 4 Mac techs here know how to solve problems quickly and
effectively and if they do not have an immediate solution to your problem
then they will find out the answer and get back to you as soon as
Generally e-mails are turned around in 1-2 days (English only but there is
no discrimination against non-US e-mail addresses) and phone calls
(domestic, international, cel & sat phone calls all accepted) are taken as
they come (generally the busiest times are the 9-10 in the morning and 2-3
in the afternoon).

>To the contrary - upon my request some years ago a kind tech at Opcode told
>me 'how to configure the Studio 4 properly for two computer use'. This does
>not work and was only confirmed by others on the list with practical
>experience (and a few nights of my own rebootings).

Hmmm...this problem report is rather vague and doesn't help too much in
trying to isolate what the source of the problem may be. Below is the
relevant information from the manual, if you find that after taking this
information into account you are still having problems then the best thing
to do is to write up a description of your system which includes:

Physical RAM
OS Version
OMS Version
ROM Version of any hardware

Phone & Fax #'s

A general description of the problem with a specific description of how
things are currently configured and any things that you have already tried
in the troubleshooting process. You should then e-mail this info to, where you will find a friendly tech who is ready to
work with you on an individual level (which consumes much less bandwidth
than such public and non-specific discussions of troubleshooting

>From Chapter 3, p.15 of the manual for  a Studio 4:

Two Macintosh computers may share one Studio 4 by connecting one Macintosh
to the Studio 4 "A" port and connecting the other Macintosh to the Studio
"B" port. (Fig. 6 gives a nice little diagram showing the connection of
Modem ports of two different computers to the A & B ports of a Studio 4.

>From Chapter 3, p. 16 of the manual for a Studio 4:

If you connect two computers to a Studio 4, you must check the Multiple
Computers option in the Studio 4 menu.  Do not check this option if you're
not using two computers to control the Studio 4.

Multiple Macintosh Caveat

Use only one computer at a time too initiate actions that change a Studio
4's internal state--always wait at least 1 second before initiating any
state-changing actions from a different computer.

Actions that cause the Studio 4 to change state include:

*Clicking anywhere in either the Network Routing window or the Routing,
Channelizing and Muting window.

*Switching, opening or quitting applications

*Performing Galaxy Patch transfers

*Making different windows active in OMS Setup+Patches

*Using the Enable Inputs dialog in Vision.

If you use  different computers to change the Studio 4's internal state
quickly, the enabling and/or routing of the Studio 4 inputs to the
Macintosh computers may be incorrect.  If you suspect trouble, choose OMS
MIDI Setup from within any OMS application and click OK [to reestablish
communications with the Studio 4].

-James Livingston
Opcode Systems Quality Assurance


Date:    Fri, 22 May 1998 00:13:21 +0000
From:    marc ravelomanantsoa 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 19 May 1998 to 20 May 1998

hello Max-MSP-ers,

has anyone heard about  MSP'~ externals called :

    sono~  : deals with sonogram
    hae~  : can use Headspace Audio Engine (may extend QuickTime
world )
    pitch~ : smthg that can help in pitch following works

else : how can I simply trigger an audio signal ( a piezzo pickup just
pluged in
the audio-in of my Mac on witch I beat with my fingers ) . All I want is
the "velocity" information of the beat. Attack level in another word.  I
need complicated envelop follower.

I just go in that work and ... may be some one has good direction to
good idea that may help .. thanks in advance.


Date:    Fri, 22 May 1998 09:20:04 +1000
From:    Iain Mott 
Subject: "dialog" and Mac OS 8.0

A while back - i had my Mac powerbook 190 upgraded to system 8.0, to fix
some internet problems I was having. At the time I didn't notice any
problems with my existing MAX patches running on the new system.

One thing I hadn't checked however was my usage of the "dialog" object. I
now find when a message is sent to this object - MAX crashes - and the
computer says it has experienced an "error 2" - or something like that.
same thing happens even when testing the dialog help patch with none of my
custom patches loaded.

Has anyone experienced a similar problem with Mac OS 8.0? Any way to fix


Iain Mott
682 Drummond Street               ph      (03) 9347 3304
North Carlton                     Int     +61 3 9347 3304
Victoria 3054                     fax


End of MAX Digest - 20 May 1998 to 21 May 1998