Subject: MAX Digest - 13 May 1998 to 14 May 1998
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There are 8 messages totalling 343 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. key disk copy protection/PowerBooks with no floppy drives (3)
  2. imag/in
  3. Autorisation of MAX
  4. AUDIOMEDIA III +MSP
  5. MSP - AMIII - Studio 4
  6. A Relative Novice Shares His MAX Project

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Date:    Thu, 14 May 1998 00:00:20 -0400
From:    Andrew Davenport BROUSE 
Subject: Re: key disk copy protection/PowerBooks with no floppy drives

The new G3 powerbooks have a floppy option for under 100 dollars I believe
- so that is your solution.  Myself, I am running Max on a PowerBook Duo
230 (no floppy) which was successfully authorized in its docking bay.

Apple has already stated that it is abandoning floppy drives in
forthcoming models so I think it is time for Opcode to come up with a
better license scheme.  The inherent problem with the current scheme is
that it penalises those who use legitimate copies of the software and
rewards those who use cracked versions: thus increasing the incentive for
the production of cracked versions.  Anyone who has had their
authorization go bonkers will agree.

Andrew Brouse
Computer Applications in Music
McGill University
Montreal, Canada

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Date:    Thu, 14 May 1998 08:40:50 +0200
From:    Guy Van Belle 
Subject: Re: imag/in

-- you better ask Tom Demeyer what you are doing wrong. You can reach him
via http://www.xs4all.nl/~steim -> tomd@xs4all.nl
Look, I can hardly "imagine" it doesn't work properly _ because we used to
run it on different machines like a 8500/120mhz and it behaved OK! But ask
Tom, he programmed it and will give you necessary feedback on your
systems.( GuyZ from Young Farmers Claim Future )

I agree that IMAG/INE offers exciting possibilities. However, I've tried
the IMAG/INE tutorials on my G3, and everything involving live video
doesn't run smoothly - even at quarter screen! I would like to know what
functions you have gotten working properly, as it seems to me that getting
IMAG/INE to work well will require at least a 1000 MHz CPU.

Jeff Burns

     [e r r o r = h o m e] http://simsim.rug.ac.be/staff/guy
     [anti_analog:hit_men] ftp://quixot.rug.ac.be  *\HK/YFCF
ein Rausch der Bilder, der die Welt aesthetisch rechtfertigt

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Date:    Thu, 14 May 1998 09:51:47 +0200
From:    Frank Schweizer 
Subject: Autorisation of MAX

in our studios we tried to install MAX 3.5.8 on a harddisk
attached to a G3 Computer, but it didn't function.

Then we attached it to the G3 itself and all was o.k.

But we need to instzall it to an external disk?
What can we do now?

frank

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frank schweizer
tel.+fax: (49)-721-826 546
fmw@hfg-karlsruhe.de
100424.705@compuserve.com
http://www.hfg-karlsruhe.de/users/fmw

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Date:    Thu, 14 May 1998 09:44:26 +0200
From:    Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green 
Subject: AUDIOMEDIA III +MSP

Robert Henke  wrote
>I am using msp with a Audiomedia III card and most of the time this work=
s
>stable. (There are some strange crashes, but after restarting msp
>everything is fine again. )
>But :
>Sometimes after using msp i am not able to get any digital out from the =
AM
>III via Protools.
>Everything else works fine, the signal appears at the analog output, but
>NOT on the SPDIF.
>I tryed to use msp afterwards and i had no problems accessing the digita=
l
>output.
>I figured out that the only way to restore normal function of Protools i=
s
>to reset the parameter ram and trash all the digidesign preferencies /
>setup files.
>I have the impression that this behaviour startes after crashes within m=
sp
>Has anyone simillar problems ?
>Has anyone a good solution ??????????
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I have had similar troubles :

Audiomedia III works well, only if the processor is'nt to charged.
(try not to overpass 60-70% in the dac~info), otherwise,
it may crash whithout warning. On some machines,
apparently it simply crashes MSP after some time. Not on my 7200.

The SPDIF whith PT soft was'nt working anymore for a long while,
 more or less when I began to use MSP.
I did phone to Digidesign and they told me to throw away the DigiSetup
witch I did whithout changes at first.
Then I thought that the problem came from my Tascam DAT DA30MKII,
which has a special way of understanding SPDIF.
but it disapeared. Indeed one day as I was manipulating nervously
the input comutator of the Tascam between analog and digital,
the signal came back without any apparent reason.
I did as well add RAM to the DAE and got rid of the DigideseignSoundDrive=
rs.
Apparently new versions such as 1.42 are bugged and uncompatible whith
former versions of Pro Tools.
This tricky tools + Direct I/O MSP Audiodriver + the SoundManager=8A
 is probably a bit much.
Since I use OS8, I totaly threw away the DigideseignSoundDrivers.
Under OS 8, only the applications are managing the audio I/O.

This is'nt what one calls a "good solution" I reckon, but it did work for=
 me.

Anyway It woks much much better than on Pro Tools Project cards.
I do not use a Studio 4 but an ordinary midi box + OMS and it works fine.

More bizzare : since I install OS 8, I can't run anymore ProoTools + Max
MSP. To bad because I had quite a few usefull OfLine effects "PlugOuts".

Roland Cahen

http://www.cicv.fr/CICV/TB/ARTISTES/rolcahen.html
http://www.gmeb.fr/LesCompos/Lescompos97.html#anchor6344194

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Date:    Thu, 14 May 1998 10:49:13 +0100
From:    Hans Tutschku 
Subject: MSP - AMIII - Studio 4

>Subject: MSP - AMIII - Studio 4
>
>Dear 1000 male MAX users ...
>
>Two days ago i posted my MSP versus AM III problems on the list and
>yesterday Martin Gotfrit did add another strange problem concerning MAX
>(msp ?) and the Studio 4.
>
>My point is, that i have big trouble with my Opcode Studio 4 since a while
>and i thougt it`s a hardwareproblem of the Studio 4.
>Interessting enough there is a match of the appearence of the problems and
>the time i installed MSP.
>Maybe there is no correlation  -  but maybe there IS ONE ???
>
>

We had here at IRCAM a lot of problems with Studio4 - before and after
installing MSP.
I don't think there is a correlation.

Hans

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Date:    Thu, 14 May 1998 10:20:12 -0000
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: key disk copy protection/PowerBooks with no floppy drives

> Someday Nick might just upgrade and realize that, in the PACE world,
> things have gotten a lot more reasonable and reliable.

Oh: I assumed the new restrictions were intentional, to stop people
moving removal media around with MAX installed.

I'm not planning to upgrade from 3.0 to 3.5 since I'm still using
680x0-based Macs and THINK C, and I also don't have a CD-ROM drive.

--
        Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL            contemporary dance projects
        http://www.cassiel.com            music synthesis and control

        NOTICE - this vessel has triple screws - keep clear of blades

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Date:    Thu, 14 May 1998 15:44:55 -0500
From:    David Wright 
Subject: A Relative Novice Shares His MAX Project

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Hello all, I don't blame you if you don't want to waste your time over
this elementary dribble.  But I thought I'd share my transcription in
MAX of a 4 voice canon by J.S. Bach (BWV 1074), as I've tried to get it
as compact and elegant as possible, and I'd appreciate anyone's
suggestions to make it even moreso (although I definitely prefer "s" and
"r" objects over a spiderweb of connecting cords.)

Most of the intervals of the 9-note melody are "3rd down, 2nd up," and
most of the durations are "half note, whole note," so I've given Max
only the exceptions to that rule (the "select 6 7" and "select 2 8 9"
boxes.) Upon loading, Max constructs the topmost melody, loads it into a
coll object; then as it plays (once the spacebar is pressed), it
calculates the other 3 voices.  I'm particularly proud of the algorithm
on the far right that converts interval numbers 0 thru 7 into C major
scale intervals 0,2,4,5,7,9,11,12; thus the canon at the fourth below
will transpose (e.g.) B to F, not F-sharp.

 The problem that I was stuck on for the longest time was the lowest
note of the lowest voice, which falls outside of a 2 octave range for
the whole piece. Having to calculate a third octave would have seriously
complicated the program, as far as I could see -- I ended up calculating
the lowest voice 1 octave too high and dropping it an octave at the last
minute. (under "The Canon," the leftmost "+ 3" object was originally a
"- 4" object; notice the "- 12" object below the "cycle 4" object.)

To get it to play in your system, enter your choice of instrument in the
"noteout" object bottom center, and enter your choice of program number
in the number box over "pgmout" just to the left.
--
QUOTE: "The urgent apocalypticism of neo-Luddites, members of food
co-ops, deep ecologists, quasi-unabombers, and other denizens of the
environmental fringe is matched only by the ingenutiy with which they
design their ever-proliferating Web sites."  --Mark Kingwell, Harper's
Magazine

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Date:    Sat, 16 May 1998 08:30:55 +1000
From:    David Rodger 
Subject: Re: key disk copy protection/PowerBooks with no floppy drives

David Zicarelli wrote:
>Someday Nick might just upgrade and realize that, in the PACE world,
>things have gotten a lot more reasonable and reliable.

I got the impression that it's _being_ it's a PACE world might be one of
the reasons that Nick doesn't upgrade!  (Mind you, neither have I.  3.0
roolz OK!)

Regards, David

David Rodger ------------ Audio Engineer, Pool Lifeguard, RLSS Trainer
E-mail:   auricle@alphalink.com.au
Personal: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~auricle/     (not yet exciting)
Research: http://farben.latrobe.edu.au/motion/   (a bit more exciting)
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"Officially the La Trobe Music Department is in existance for the next
2 years and will close on 31 December, 1999.  (This is really just our
way of avoiding the Y2K bug)."                          -- David Hirst
       http://farben.latrobe.edu.au/Music_Docs/pressrelease.html
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