Subject: MAX Digest - 23 Apr 1998 to 24 Apr 1998
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There are 5 messages totalling 211 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. buying CDs at the show
  2. Ethernet object/binary object
  3. c557
  4. Urgent help needed about MTC (at a 25 f/s rate ;-)
  5. job opening: sys admin, UCSD music dept

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Date:    Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:36:40 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: buying CDs at the show

It's a somewhat unique historical situation, as well as
figuring our way in the new world of internet commerce, that
allows one the choice of MSP authorization code vendors.

Part of the goal in having IRCAM work with MSP is to encourage
them to use their resources to build up the MSP community.
I think they're doing a good job and I hope they feel it's
worth the effort.

I'm trying to do the same thing in my little corner of the
world, and I'll have some announcements to that effect in the
near future.

Whatever you would like IRCAM to do about their software, keep
in mind that we would have nothing to talk about here without
their original investment in Max and their willingness to see it
commercialized.

David Z.

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Date:    Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:44:14 +0100
From:    "David Z.Saltz" 
Subject: Ethernet object/binary object

1. I'm trying to work with data from motion capture systems (Polhemus,
Ascension) that connect directly to the computer via ethernet. (Six
degree-of-freedom position data from eight transmitters--imagine the
possibilities!) Is there an object out there that will let me read raw
data from the ethernet port, the way the serial object does from the
serial port?

2. Has anyone created a Fat version of the old binary object? (I know
that it's not hard to create an abstraction of that object in Max, but I
need to process lots of information very quickly, so speed is crucial.)

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Date:    Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:49:53 EDT
From:    "SETA,MICHAL,MR" 
Subject: Re: c557

>Date:    Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:28:24 -0600
>From:    =cw4t7abs 
>Subject: c557
>
>>"M. Abidh Waugh" 
>>myself included, are
>>researchers/composers/performing artists/in academia
>
>mememememememememeemememememememememe
>ak.anem!k.ak.anem!k.ak.anem!k.ak.anem!k.ak.an.
>pozeur.
>krapmatter +
>art!zt.f!ssure.tzzt.
>ultra lak.
>age.
>
>!n.an+e kasz = t!tlez-- 4 1 un.eventfuL konglomerate.
>

I totally agree with this statement...
I also have a question:
Why is it that composers/academics/researchers/blahblahblah
having all this money/facilities/support don't do anything
worth listening to?

And another question for academics:
What is the role of academia ???????

>>I too would appreciate such an action from Ircam.
>
>des!re != okkupat!on
>

okkupat!on != pro.dukt!v!t+e

// MiS

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Date:    Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:11:39 +0200
From:    "Philippe Montémont" 
Subject: Urgent help needed about MTC (at a 25 f/s rate ;-)

Hello everybody,

I innocently thought that "timein" & "timeout" objects  were able to
communicate with the outside world, I mean Macintosh world. They do NOT!

I urgently need to synchronize (even badly) a Yamaha 02R mixing console
(which receives MTC) and Max at a 25 f/s (european) rate, using a MOTU
midi interface & OMS 2.3.3. .

I read the past days discussion about tcin, rtin, rtout (I do not know
where to find rtout...). It appears that these objects are only for
beatclock rate.

I grabbed Mr Elsea's tutorial on the Internet & made the following
patch, a cocktail of timeout, timein, midiout &  sysexformat. It seems
to work well BUT:

Two objects in this patch are typically for 30 f/s rate: "&31" and "|96"

What are the correct values for a 25 f/s?
Is OMS Timing time more reliable that Max time?

Thank you very much for your help.

Now, the patch:

max v2;
#N vpatcher 10 45 628 431;
#P newex 15 97 52 196617 midiin b 1;
#P newex 31 269 31 196617 & 31;
#P number 31 332 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P number 68 332 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P number 105 332 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P number 143 332 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P newex 15 160 145 196617 unpack 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8;
#P newex 15 138 189 196617 match 240 127 127 1 1 nn nn nn nn 247;
#P newex 381 228 194 196617 bondo 4;
#P newex 381 348 58 196617 midiout a 1;
#P newex 381 275 27 196617 | 96;
#P newex 381 303 195 196617 sxformat 240 127 127 1 1 / is $i1 / is $i2 /
is $i3 / is $i4 / 247;
#P toggle 381 182 15 0;
#P newex 381 203 194 196617 timein;
#P toggle 379 58 15 0;
#P message 379 109 31 196617 start;
#P message 299 58 60 196617 format \$1;
#P newex 413 152 53 196617 timeout;
#P newex 379 80 50 196617 route 1 0;
#P message 413 109 27 196617 stop;
#P user umenu 299 30 97 196645 1 64;
#X add =A0Milliseconds (0);
#X add =A0Beats (1);
#X add =A024 f/s Bits (2);
#X add =A025 f/s Bits (3);
#X add =A030 f/s Drop Bits (4);
#X add =A030 f/s Bits (5);
#X add =A024 f/s (6);
#X add =A025 f/s (7);
#X add =A030 f/s Drop (8);
#X add =A030 f/s (9);
#X add =A029.97 f/s Drop Bits (10 =97 OMS Only);
#X add =A029.97 f/s Drop (11 =97 OMS Only);
#X add =A029.97 f/s Bits (12 =97 OMS Only);
#X add =A029.97 f/s (13 =97 OMS Only);
#P message 364 58 14 196617 0;
#P comment 63 272 311 196617 <-These values are for a 30 f/s rate...
What are the correct values for 25 f/s ??? ->->;
#P comment 15 30 264 196617 Made from Peter Elsea's (Director of
Electronic Music Studios University of California \, Santa Cruz)
Tutorial "Max&MTC";
#P connect 23 0 16 0;
#P hidden connect 22 0 21 0;
#P hidden fasten 17 5 22 0 100 192 36 192;
#P hidden fasten 17 6 20 0 116 213 73 213;
#P hidden fasten 17 7 19 0 132 223 110 223;
#P hidden connect 17 8 18 0;
#P connect 16 0 17 0;
#P connect 15 1 12 1;
#P connect 15 0 13 0;
#P connect 15 2 12 2;
#P connect 15 3 12 3;
#P connect 13 0 12 0;
#P connect 12 0 14 0;
#P connect 10 0 15 0;
#P connect 11 0 10 0;
#P connect 10 1 15 1;
#P connect 10 2 15 2;
#P connect 10 3 15 3;
#P connect 9 0 5 0;
#P fasten 8 0 6 0 384 129 418 129;
#P fasten 7 0 6 0 304 142 418 142;
#P fasten 7 0 10 0 304 200 386 200;
#P connect 5 0 8 0;
#P fasten 5 1 4 0 404 103 418 103;
#P connect 4 0 6 0;
#P connect 3 0 7 0;
#P fasten 2 0 6 0 369 146 418 146;
#P pop;

Philippe Montemont
ph_m@club-internet.fr

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Date:    Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:50:01 -0700
From:    Miller Puckette 
Subject: job opening: sys admin, UCSD music dept

Hi Maxers,

The UCSD Music department is looking for a system manager -- see
http://www-hr.ucsd.edu/~eob/prog1.html
for details.

cheers
Miller

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