Subject: MAX Digest - 18 Mar 1998 to 19 Mar 1998
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:00:18 -0500
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There are 12 messages totalling 252 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. death at trade shows
  2. drop the Bomb
  3. Where to Download MSP
  4. Antiorp Review
  5. MusikMesse nano-report (3)
  6. carousel slide projectors
  7. lcd +
  8. Booting Max gives thrills... (2)
  9. MAX and PlainTalk / SpeechManager

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Date:    Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:53:53 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: death at trade shows

It is hard to do a good Max demo. To paraphrase a friend of mine,
no one likes to watch you wank off putting boxes on the
screen and connecting them with lines.

In some cases, a program is better than its demo, and some cases
the demo is better than the program. Anyone remember Sybil?

In any case, it would be a mistake not to believe I'm frustrated
with the Max situation at Opcode, and frustrated at my inability
to change it. But I will prevail.

David Z.

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Date:    Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:47:13 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: drop the Bomb

Curtis Bahn  writes:

>I get it.   I put the entire folder "put in max folder" into the max folder
>and added it to the search path.  You have to place the various files and
>the suck folder directly into the max application folder.  Now I see the
>colors and images.

Yeah, usually people in my position would have called that folder
"put contents in Max folder"...sorry about that. I'll change it
for the next version.

To answer what I think is Antiorp's question, yes, the new bomb
is better than the old one. It has tutorials and code that doesn't
do an Antiorp job on your screen when you exit the full-screen
mode.

David Z.

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Date:    Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:54:50 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: Where to Download MSP

charles shriner  writes:

Where may I download the full version of MSP?

http://www.cycling74.com/products/dlmsp.html

David Z.

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Date:    Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:14:19 -0000
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: Antiorp Review

> I wish more people did such interesting work.  I'm looking forward to
> seeing more of Antiorp's programming.

You do, in every email message he posts.

His CD ("a9ff") is quite a blast, btw.

--
        Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL            contemporary dance projects
        http://www.cassiel.com            music synthesis and control

        NOTICE - this vessel has triple screws - keep clear of blades

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Date:    Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:54:39 -0000
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: MusikMesse nano-report

> It doesn't make any money for Opcode
> really, compared to any other product, and even at that they have
> to give part of it to IRCAM.  It's basically a dead issue.

Fine; let's lose the copy protection then...

--
        Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL            contemporary dance projects
        http://www.cassiel.com            music synthesis and control

        NOTICE - this vessel has triple screws - keep clear of blades

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Date:    Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:46:46 -0500
From:    Jem Finer 
Subject: carousel slide projectors

Does anyone know how to control slide projectors via Max - any patches,
interfaces etc  ?

thanks,

Jem Finer

Kentish Town
London NW5
finer@easynet.co.uk

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Date:    Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:45:10 +0100
From:    Oeyvind Brandtsegg 
Subject: lcd +

I need an object that behaves much like lcd (mouse-drawing,
mouseposition tracking) but the object should be resizable (responding
to user choice) from within max, without having to click and drag to new
size. I would also need to be able to save the image created when
drawing into the object.

I'd guess that someone has made this object, so please tell me.

Oeyvind Brandtsegg
mailto:obrandts@online.no

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Date:    Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:45:16 +0100
From:    Roby Steinmetzer 
Subject: Re: MusikMesse nano-report

The last time I was at the MusikMesse, -2 years ago-, and I asked about Max
at
 Opcode's,
something in the eyes of the Opcode man told me that this was not the
question
 to ask.
He mumbled something about crazy Frenchmen and invited me to take a look at
 their Vision show.
The Vision show was ok.

But it did not persuade me to switch from Cubase which I use since its first
 release on Atari.

On the other side I'm a bit astonished about David's release of the vst~
 external.
Don't understand me wrong, the object is absolutely great.
As a CubaseVst user I'm more than happy about it.

But how does Opcode think about it??

Or should I interpret it as an attempt for a new partnership? ;-)

Anyway, thanks to David for the bomb, vst, and so on...
thanks to Antiorp for his art (I hate his p0st|ngs) and to all the people on
the
 list.

Roby Steinmetzer
Luxembourg, Europe

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Date:    Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:03:40 -0500
From:    Steve Smith 
Subject: Booting Max gives thrills...

When I boot max 3.5.8 68k version on my Powerbook 1400cs, I get the =
following endless error messages in the Max window.  If anyone has =
any illuminating  observations on the why's and wherefore's of this =
entertaining phenomenon for me, I would be thrilled to hear them.
With thanks.....Steve

=80 error: rescopy: failed to add DLOG 3146, error -61
=80 error: rescopy: failed to add DITL 3146, error -61
=80 error: rescopy: failed to add STR# 3146, error -61
=80 error: rescopy: failed to add ics# 3146, error -61
=80 error: rescopy: failed to add ics4 3146, error -61
=80 error: rescopy: failed to add ics8 3146, error -61
=80 error: rescopy: failed to add DITL 3160, error -61
=80 error: rescopy: failed to add DLOG 3160, error -61
=80 error: rescopy: failed to add DLOG 3107, error -61
=80 error: rescopy: failed to add DITL 3107, error -61
=80 error: rescopy: failed to add DITL 3108, error -61
etc. more of the same
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Date:    Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:30:38 -0500
From:    j_p_m / p_t_c 
Subject: MAX and PlainTalk / SpeechManager

Has anyone used MAX with Macintosh PlainTalk / SpeechManager.

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Date:    Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:23:18 -0500
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: Booting Max gives thrills...

>When I boot max 3.5.8 68k version on my Powerbook 1400cs, I get the =

>following endless error messages in the Max window.  If anyone has =

>any illuminating  observations on the why's and wherefore's of this =

>entertaining phenomenon for me, I would be thrilled to hear them.
>With thanks.....Steve

> error: rescopy: failed to add DLOG 3146, error -61
> error: rescopy: failed to add DITL 3146, error -61
> error: rescopy: failed to add STR# 3146, error -61

Empty the trash.  You've got too many MaxTemp Files in there.

Stephen Kay
----------------------- The MegaMAX Collection -----------------------
  Over 30 Max objects for the creation of more professional looking, =

         feeling, and functioning patchers and applications.
                          Demos available at:
                      http://www.musikinetix.com
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Date:    Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:35:53 +0100
From:    David Rodger 
Subject: MusikMesse nano-report

Stephen Kay wrote:
>Sorry to say it, but no - equally as feeble.  Max wasn't running on
>a single computer at NAMM.  It doesn't make any money for Opcode
>really, compared to any other product, and even at that they have
>to give part of it to IRCAM.  It's basically a dead issue.  The
>only ones keeping it alive are the universities and this list.

Strike off La Trobe University.  Looks as if the slags are winning.

David Rodger ----------- Audio Engineer, Pool Lifeguard, RLSS Trainer
E-mail:   auricle@alphalink.com.au
Personal: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~auricle/    (not yet exciting)
Research: http://farben.latrobe.edu.au/motion/  (a bit more exciting)
=====================================================================
  Save La Trobe Music Department from destruction by slags in suits:
      http://farben.latrobe.edu.au/Music_Docs/pressrelease.html
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