Subject: MAX Digest - 25 Feb 1998 to 26 Feb 1998
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 00:00:16 -0500
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There are 11 messages totalling 362 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. MIDI Controlled Video Mixers
  2. Max Toolbar (2)
  3. MAX Digest - 24 Feb 1998 to 25 Feb 1998 (2)
  4. Elegant Solutions (thanks)
  5. Max Toolbar Disappeared etc..
  6. Composing Interactive Music
  7. New Max book
  8. MIDI-controlled video switching
  9. Lost Tool Bar

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Date:    Thu, 26 Feb 1998 00:41:29 -0500
From:    Johnny DeKam 
Subject: MIDI Controlled Video Mixers

We've had considerable success with a Panasonic WJMX-30 using serial
control.
This is a 3 bus video mixer (A/B and key) w/ your basic realtime effects
(negative, posterize, mosaic, superimpose, fade, dissolve, wipe)

Nice thing is that you can do things beyond the limitations of the hardware
interface itself...
EG superlong and subtle fades,  or accessing mutiple effects at once.

AJ Jannone has it wired directly to the frets of a Bass, and a wacom tablet
stuck in the strings to send cross dissolves...

What do you think Cobb? time to release your patches to the public?

Johnny DeKam
integrated Electronic Arts at Rensseler

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Date:    Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:49:48 +0100
From:    dudas 
Subject: Max Toolbar

regarding the disappearing max toolbar...

Curtis Bahn writes:

>This never has happened to me using MAX in the past.  Are others
>experiencing the same thing, or, does anyone know how to more easily get
>back after it happens to you?

Ugh. Yes. This has happened to me a couple of times.

It can happen when there are more than 9 Max Temp files in the trash, after
9 crashes and reboots. It's best to get into the habit of emptying the
trash _every time_ max crashes and you have to restart the computer. If
there are more than 9 temp files, Max can't write a new temporary resource
file, and he ends up not only posting errors in the max window and doing
strange things with the toolbar, but he also modifies most of the resources
of the files in the max-startup folder by doubling all of the file's
resources every time you launch the program. Take a look at the size of
your "omenu" object... if it is around 5 MB in size, it's is a sure sign
that you've had this problem. (!)

Only once have I had this problem when I was (almost) certain to have
regularly emptied the trash like a good boy.  I believe the only solution
is to completely re-install Max, and all the external objects, empty the
trash, and remove the preferences file, just to be safe.

Good thing it doesn't happen often.
It's a nice reality-check.

-R

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Date:    Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:50:49 -0800
From:    Peter Nyboer 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 24 Feb 1998 to 25 Feb 1998

David Z. writes:

>I'm sure lots of people will respond and say the same thing,
>so let me be the first.

however, =cw4t7abs responded before that:

>
>tr.-!k. !f 1 haz knoledge ov
>zkuarez lokat!on dzen
>all = klar
>1 aku!rez kno.ledge.
>by plac!ng w!ndow !n 1_-spec!f!k               lokat!on.
>!n regardz 2 skreen rez.
>

David,  I must say that you were not first, nor was anything repeated!!!!

Peter Nyboer (roots sez Nijboer!)

Peter Nyboer
pnyboer@loop.com
http://www.loop.com/~pnyboer/
--home of Slambassador multimedia gallery--

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Date:    Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:15:29 +0000
From:    "C. Todd Robbins" 
Subject: Re: Elegant Solutions (thanks)

Thanks for all the replys on how to make my mouse tell me where I am.

The essential thing I needed was that
multiply-one-number-by-a-constant-and-add-the-second-numder-to-come-up-with-a-un
 ique-number
trick. (Converting 2-D into 1-D, as Peter Castine says.)

> You'll be able to do this sort of thing much more easily inside
> a patcher window soon, by the way.
>
> David Z.

I can't wait.

--
C. Todd Robbins
sf.ca
415/441-6440
ctodd@sirius.com

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Date:    Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:27:49 -0000
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: Max Toolbar

> Max can't write a new temporary resource
> file, and he ends up not only posting errors in the max window and doing
> strange things with the toolbar, but he also modifies most of the
resources
> of the files in the max-startup folder by doubling all of the file's
> resources every time you launch the program.

[FX: jaw hits ground with a resounding *CRASH*.]

--
        Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL            contemporary dance projects
        http://www.cassiel.com            music synthesis and control

        NOTICE - this vessel has triple screws - keep clear of blades

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Date:    Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:55:19 +0100
From:    Jukka Ylitalo 
Subject: Max Toolbar Disappeared etc..

Launching max all the Toolbar/startup items get new last modified date
time, i suppose this should not happen, or should it?
in Toolbar right from dial object all the objects (but multislider & omenu)
are not visible.
when choosing them kslider has no white keys, ezdac~, ezadc~ no mic or
speaker symbol when set in the patcher window, just a white box, etc...

i open new patcher window and make coll object and
when get info from coll the application unexpetetly quits
and the coll object has a new last modified date time which is the crash
time

Im running max 3.5.9 at  mac 9600/200, os 8.1 with msp
tried to install again with not much success. (Not to mention on top of
this the power went down and key disk is damaged)
not much more to do than :) about a situation

Jukka  Ylitalo
http://ifxs.c3.hu

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Date:    Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:52:14 -0500
From:    todd_winkler@BROWN.EDU
Subject: Composing Interactive Music

               Announcing the publication of a new book from MIT Press

Composing Interactive Music: Techniques and Ideas Using Max

by Todd Winkler

"Beyond a clear and thorough introduction to Max programming, Todd
Winkler's Composing Interactive Music presents and explains a comprehensive
theoretical framework encompassing the major issues in the field."
        -- Robert Rowe, Music Technology Program,
            New York University

Interactive music refers to a composition or improvisation in which
software interprets live performances to produce music generated or
modified by computers. In Composing Interactive Music, Todd
Winkler presents both the technical and aesthetic possibilities of this
increasingly popular area of computer music. His own numerous
compositions have been the laboratory for the research and
development that resulted in this book.

The author's examples use a graphical programming language called
Max. Each example in the text is accompanied by a picture of how it
appears on the computer screen. The same examples are included as
software on the accompanying CD-ROM, playable on a Macintosh
computer with a MIDI keyboard.

Although the book is aimed at those interested in writing music and
software using Max, the casual reader can learn the basic concepts
of interactive composition by just reading the text, without running
any software. The book concludes with a discussion of recent
multimedia work incorporating projected images and video playback
with sound for concert performances and art installations.

ISBN 0-262-23193-X
368 pp., incl. CD-ROM
$50.00 (cloth)

For orders, please email mitpress-orders@mit.edu, call 1-800-356-0343 or
visit the books homepage at:
http://mitpress.mit.edu/book-home.tcl?isbn=026223193X

For professors interested in using the book for potential course use,
please contact:

Margie Hardwick
Textbook Manager
The MIT Press
 Five Cambridge Center
 Cambridge, MA 02142
hardwick@mit.edu

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Date:    Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:35:21 -0500
From:    Tommy DOG 
Subject: New Max book

I'm sure everyone on this list who is a member of IRCAM's Forum will be
posting this, but what the hell.....

>Announcing the publication of a new book from MIT Press
>
>
>Composing Interactive Music: Techniques and Ideas Using Max
>
>by Todd Winkler
>
>
>"Beyond a clear and thorough introduction to Max programming, Todd
>Winkler's Composing Interactive Music presents and explains a
>comprehensive
>theoretical framework encompassing the major issues in the field."
>        -- Robert Rowe, Music Technology Program,
>            New York University
>
>
>Interactive music refers to a composition or improvisation in which
>software interprets live performances to produce music generated or
>modified by computers. In Composing Interactive Music, Todd
>Winkler presents both the technical and aesthetic possibilities of this
>increasingly popular area of computer music. His own numerous
>compositions have been the laboratory for the research and
>development that resulted in this book.
>
>The author's examples use a graphical programming language called
>Max. Each example in the text is accompanied by a picture of how it
>appears on the computer screen. The same examples are included as
>software on the accompanying CD-ROM, playable on a Macintosh
>computer with a MIDI keyboard.
>
>Although the book is aimed at those interested in writing music and
>software using Max, the casual reader can learn the basic concepts
>of interactive composition by just reading the text, without running
>any software. The book concludes with a discussion of recent
>multimedia work incorporating projected images and video playback
>with sound for concert performances and art installations.
>
>ISBN 0-262-23193-X
>368 pp., incl. CD-ROM
>$50.00 (cloth)
>
>For orders, please email mitpress-orders@mit.edu, call 1-800-356-0343 or
>visit the books homepage at:
>http://mitpress.mit.edu/book-home.tcl?isbn=026223193X
>
>For professors interested in using the book for potential course use,
>please contact:
>
>Margie Hardwick
>Textbook Manager
>The MIT Press
> Five Cambridge Center
> Cambridge, MA 02142
>hardwick@mit.edu
>
"Death To The Dumb, Curses Upon The Heads Of The Weird"
                     Tommy DOG
http://www.mindspring.com/~jjprinz/uni-mirror/uni.html
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3976/uni.html
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jprinz/uni-mirror/uni.html

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Date:    Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:51:46 -0500
From:    Holland 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 24 Feb 1998 to 25 Feb 1998

>Can anyone give me advice about MIDI-controlled video-switchers ?  Do
>they exist ? where can I find one ?

Dafna,
        Your best bet might be serial control of a video switcher.  AJ
Jannone has hacked the codes for Panasonic's WJMX-30.  I've added a few
functions to round out his work.  Would be happy to share the patch with
you if you'd find it useful.
Holland Hopson

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Date:    Thu, 26 Feb 1998 15:11:27 -0400
From:    Alan Edwards 
Subject: Re: MIDI-controlled video switching

>        Can anyone give me advice about MIDI-controlled video-switchers ?
>Do they
>exist ? where can I find one ?

I have not seen any with MIDI, but there are several that will accept
commands
from the serial port. I just borrowed a Videonics Digital Video Mixer from a
friend to try this out. I may be buying it! What a fun toy. And not too
much $$$
more at: http://www.videonics.com/

Alan Edwards

Alan Edwards
Instructor, Digital Communications
New Brunswick Community College
http://www.smythe.nbcc.nb.ca

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Date:    Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:50:43 -0500
From:    Ed Hartley 
Subject: Re: Lost Tool Bar

> Michael Sweet
>
> I'm using 3.5.9 on a 9600 with system 8.1.  Things were fine for the last
> couple of weeks but recently whenever I start max and create a new patcher
> window, half of the max toolbar has disappeared (from the gate on to the
> right).  I can select the blank object but as soon as I place it in the
new
> patcher window max immediately crashes.

This is too weird, the exact thing happened to me two days ago. Playing
 MIDI-Guitar
(which sends out a ton of pitchbend info), I had several patches open and
 several IAC
streams back and forth to Studio Vision. I accidentally let a metro object
start
 at
0ms and everything crashed. I also may have had a MIDI-feedback loop between
Max
 and
Vision. It was ugly. Starting back up, my toolbar was gone. Snooping around,
I
noticed that all the objects in my "externals" folder had had it's
modified-date
changed to the present. Luckily, I syncronize my folders with my PowerBook
so it
 was
no problem to copy the old files back. Since then everything seems to be
working
normally. Can anyone tell what caused the toolbar problem?

Ed Hartley

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