Subject: MAX Digest - 11 Feb 1998 to 12 Feb 1998
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 00:00:16 -0500
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There are 4 messages totalling 114 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Dreamy MSP
  2. sea
  3. Algorithmic composition on the PC
  4. old macs

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Date:    Thu, 12 Feb 1998 06:56:10 -0600
From:    "R. Albert Falesch" 
Subject: Re: Dreamy MSP

Roland Cahen wrote:

>MSP is a magnificent tool, ...
>isn't so easy to use,
...
>I wish it would be a little more standardised, not to be obliged to
>remember all the complicated complications of every object,
>my memory is leaking.

To which Richard Dudas responded:

>Very poetic.  I remember feeling like that when I first started using Max.
>(And when I first started taking viola lessons, for that matter!) Some
>things need a bit of time to settle-in before they feel comfortable and
>familiar.

Indeed! After using (although in a shamefully superficial way so far)
MAX for nearly two years,  I still feel this way.  My trans-oceanic
project with one of MAX's great enthusiasts (Karlheinz Essl) lighted the
way, and now, finally, with MSP, with a more robust (so it seems)
version of the OS, and my new G3/266, I feel I can no longer maintain my
Mac-ambivalence (which was fueled by my long-time use of OS/2, now
Win-NT as software development platform, the latter of which had been so
much more resilient than OS7.x, it seemed, in the face of developer's
abuse or dubious system configuration; oh, did I forget to mention
RSX-11M? :-).  I must finally embrace Mac as my preferred platform for
many important projects.  Wheww, I'm glad I said that.

Which brings up a question: What kind of behaviour is to be expected of
MAX under Rhapsody (or are my visions of OS7/8 emulation pure
fiction?).  In theory, the coop-mode could be emulated under a fully
pre-emptable OS, yes?  Would the performance-hit be serious? Are any
older apps expected to run under this? (sorry if that issue has already
been addressed here).

        --Bob

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Date:    Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:01:52 -0500
From:    Don Malone 
Subject: sea

my MAX patches are getting too big for their britches
what do i need to make a sea?

happy tunes
Don

Don Malone

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Date:    Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:45:37 -0500
From:    Brian Whatley 
Subject: Algorithmic composition on the PC

Hi all.. I would be interested in hearing from anyone out there who uses
the program KeyKit or software by Algoarts for algorithmic composition on
the PC..
Thanks!
Brian Whatley
holywarrior@greenvillenc.com

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Date:    Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:02:15 -0800
From:    Peter Nyboer 
Subject: old macs

Hi Folks,
I thought I should include this info, more for archival purposes than
anything specific...
I recently embarked upon the project of rebuilding my old Mac IIci.  The
hard drive went out, and I had no back up of the system software to speak
of, so I needed to get a 68K system.  This was more slightly more obtuse
than I imagined.  System 7.0 is available for download at apple at:

ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/Macintosh/S
ystem/Older_System/System_7.0.x/

but it's a dead end.  As far as I can tell, there are no updates to go to
7.1 and beyond.  What I ended up doing was calling 1-800-SOS-APPL where
they referred me to a company called Sun Remarketing
(http://www.sunrem.com) who will sell System 7.5 to you for US$50.
After installing System 7.5, you can use System 7.5 Update 2.0, downloadable
at:

ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/Macintosh/S
ystem/System_7.5_Update_2.0/7.5_Update_2.0-Net_Install.sea.hqx

to upgrade to System 7.5.5.

What a blast!

Peter.

Peter Nyboer
pnyboer@loop.com
http://www.loop.com/~pnyboer/
--home of Slambassador multimedia gallery--

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