Subject: MAX Digest - 6 Feb 1998 to 7 Feb 1998
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 00:00:49 -0500
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There are 7 messages totalling 188 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. MAX Digest - 4 Feb 1998 to 5 Feb 1998
  2. non-OMS patchbays?
  3. MIDI Patch Bays
  4. audio PC-card for PB3400
  5. image transparency....
  6. MSP - powerbook 5300cs periodic whine
  7. MAX Digest - 5 Feb 1998 to 6 Feb 1998


Date:    Fri, 6 Feb 1998 02:05:26 +0000
From:    Ben Nevile 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 4 Feb 1998 to 5 Feb 1998

> Sorry to come down on you so hard, Ben, but self-fulfilling prophecies of
> doom really bug me.

S'no skin off of my back - I was only repeating what was told to me.
No offense taken whatsoever.



Date:    Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:46:02 -0500
From:    Ed Hartley 
Subject: Re: non-OMS patchbays?

> Nicholas Hind wrote
> I'm specifically interested to know about MAX users' experience with
> non-OMS MIDI patchbays...whether any are recommended and what degree of
> success has been achieved with their use.

I've got a Mark of the Unicorn MIDI Time Piece AV and it more or less works.
Setup sees it as a MIDI Time Piece and which means a generic 8X8 interface
SMPTE. However, I can't access the ADAT port. I read a post on another list
that I'd be able to if Opcode made a simple change to OMS (I won't get into
here). The MTP AV also has a whole bunch of routing, filtering, MMC, MTC,
capabilities but in order to use the Macintosh editor you have to reboot
with Freemidi. Freemidi is the MOTU version of OMS and it does more less the
type of things but it's totally incompatible. It has an OMS emulator but it
to be an older version that won't work with Studio Vision, so I don't use
that helps.

Ed Hartley


Date:    Sat, 7 Feb 1998 09:06:55 -0500
From:    Tommy DOG 
Subject: MIDI Patch Bays

>Date:    Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:08:12 -0800
>From:    Nicholas Hind 
>Subject: FAQ (non-OMS patchbays?)
>I'm new to this list, and was wondering if a FAQ is available.
>I'm specifically interested to know about MAX users' experience with
>non-OMS MIDI patchbays...whether any are recommended and what degree of
>success has been achieved with their use.

I have used a Mark Of The Unicorn MIDI TimePiece II for a number of years
with no problems at all. It's very nice and easy to use. I also use
Performer as my sequencer, my experience with MOTU tech support has always
been very good which cannot be said about most companies.
* This weeks "shit-head" award goes to Digidesign *

"Death To The Dumb, Curses Upon The Heads Of The Weird"
                     Tommy DOG


Date:    Sat, 7 Feb 1998 09:31:44 -0500
From:    charles shriner 
Subject: Re: audio PC-card for PB3400

Below is a copy of a letter I sent to E-mu, I suggest other do the same.

Hello people,
I read the following quote on the MAX list:
>"The cost of developing the
>Macintosh drivers is just to high for the amount of
>Mac cards we believe we can sell."
This was said to be your response to a question regarding development of a
PCMIA sound card for Mac OS Powerbooks.
If this is the case it is very disapointing indeed. Mac is still the
OS for audio professionals. Cutting edge programs like MAX and Pro Tools
systems have no equals on Windows systems nor will they in the near future.
What about the thousands of Mac based audio systems in pro audio
around the world?
Considering the quality of instruments like the E4X, I assumed that quality
well as quantity would be the driving force behind future product
I won't waste your time by ranting it's just that majority of serious
musicians in the pro world and in academia are and will remain Mac OS users
unless forced into the "only other alternative".
As an independent producer and composer I understand the bottom line, but
is about creating music and freedom of choice for many of us......certainly
not the majority and mayby that's your bottom line.
charles shriner: composer, producer & synthesist
Voice: 317.254.0739
599 W. Westfield Blvd. Ste. 36
Indianapolis, IN 46208
All that is not information, not redundancy, not form and not restraints is
noise, the only possible source of new patterns."
-- Bateson, Mind and Nature - A Necessary Unity, 1979


Date:    Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:47:09 +0100
From:    Peter Castine 
Subject: Re: image transparency....

"Andy K."  writes:
>I have been experimenting around with moving multiple picts and drawing
>ovals, lines, rectangles, etc. at the same time.  Unfortunately, when the
>picts overlap with each other or another "character", their framing white
>space will blot out whatever is behind them.  It can partly be solved with
>priorities, but even still with more than one pict floating at once it
>still happens.  Is there a way to make parts of an image transparent with
>the pict related objects?  Perhaps using alpha channel, or some other
>technique?  We have plenty of image tools(including photoshop), just can't
>seem to figure out how to do it in max.

Have you tried changing the drawing mode? (Copy, Or, XOr, & friends)?
This is demonstrated in the help file, BTW. Perhaps you overlooked it
because it's a much {simpler|more primitive} technique than alpha.

BTW, there is also a Polygon object. I haven't uploaded it anywhere yet
because, well, I haven't gotten around to writing a nifty .help patcher
that works as I would like. But Polygon itself works fairly well (or so
one or three people have told me). If you'd like, I'll send you (or
anyone else) a copy.



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Dr. Peter Castine         | C (n.): A programming language that is sort | of like Pascal except more like assembly
                          | except that it isn't very much like either
                          | one, or anything else.        -- Ray Simard


Date:    Sat, 7 Feb 1998 12:09:05 -0500
From:    Charles Cohen 
Subject: Re: MSP - powerbook 5300cs periodic whine

don't know 'bout the 5300 but assorted audio garbage related to HD on
the audio out of my PB520 was solved with standard ground-loop
witchcraft ie using audio isolation x-formers(EbTech works great) (or
lifting AC ground, not recommended)
            ****      What's Charles up to?      ****


Date:    Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:23:09 -0500
From:    "Andy K." 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 5 Feb 1998 to 6 Feb 1998

Hello again,
Along the lines of getting content for picts.  Has anyone done work with
capturing pictures from a connectix eyeball, or another source on the fly?
Are there  ways to capture images in Max, or would a 3rd party app be
needed to capture, and then max would look for the file?  I know the
videoin object would be helpful, but it's not PPC.  I am looking for fast
relatively stable solutions(since it will need to run all day on it's
own).  Thanks,

*Andrew Kuritzky              *             *
*Stetson University, #5986    * *
*421 N. Woodland Blvd.        *                                   *
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End of MAX Digest - 6 Feb 1998 to 7 Feb 1998