Subject: MAX Digest - 31 Jan 1998 to 1 Feb 1998
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 00:00:04 -0500
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There are 8 messages totalling 227 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. so-called 'jaz' disk. (2)
  2. ctlout and ZETA Violin
  3. Macintosh 1X external cd rom drives...
  4. route (2)
  5. Soundfile to CD
  6. ctlout question

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Date:    Sun, 1 Feb 1998 00:09:06 -0500
From:    "M. Abidh Waugh" 
Subject: so-called 'jaz' disk.

I am hoping that some people on this list migh comment as to if they
experience the same type of
anomolies that I do when using the so called jaz drive with soundfile
playback/record.
During various periods of extended use, the cartridge will often become
extremely fragmented, when I attempt to defragment w/ speed disk (norton
utilities), I have occasionally uncovered other presumably more serious
problems like this one:

"An error was found in a leaf node in the catalog b-tree.
Some files on this disk share the same space and are probably damaged.
a2:msp.sd2:ks.97.1.msp
a2:msp.sd2:ks.97.2.msp
Norton Utilities is unable to fix this problem."

        which resulted in several files disappearing from the disk.

Does anyone on the list here know of a better disk utility program than
norton util.  (apple's disk doctor isn't able to fix some of these
problems.)?
Any comments about 'jaz' vs. other drives?

I appreciate any dialog that this may generate, I feel other that msp/max
users must be encountering these issues in their research and I appreciate
any dialog that this may generate.

M. Abidh Waugh
President & C.E.O.
Abidh Enterprises
http://members.tripod.com/~abidh/index-2.html
abidh3@usa.net

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Date:    Sun, 1 Feb 1998 02:02:10 -0500
From:    David Crandall 
Subject: Re: so-called 'jaz' disk.

On Sun, 1 Feb 1998, M. Abidh Waugh wrote:

> During various periods of extended use, the cartridge will often become
> extremely fragmented, when I attempt to defragment w/ speed disk (norton
> utilities), I have occasionally uncovered other presumably more serious
> problems
...

Are you using the disk that came with the drive?  If so, it is a weird
"dual-format" cartridge which is supposed to work in both Mac and Dos
drives before initialization.  I found that this cartridge could not be
defragmented or optimized at all.  OTOH, the other cartridges I bought
later (Mac cartridges plain & simple) could be optimized using Speed Disk
with no problem.

> Any comments about 'jaz' vs. other drives?

I was extremely disappointed when my Jaz drive failed a couple of months
after the warranty expired.  The problem was an LED emitter-detector pair
that senses the presence of the disk.  Iomega said the only recourse was
to let them sell me a reconditioned drive for a "special price" that was
only about $20 cheaper than a brand new warranteed drive at mail-order
prices. So now I'm wondering whether to just spend the extra $70 to turn
the drive in for a new SyJet, which is much smaller, quieter, and holds
half again as much data.  Anyone have SyJet war stories? Are these drives
any better?

In the meantime, if your Jaz starts pausing for longer than usual before
spinning up to speed, do yourself a favor (esp if still warranteed) and
make Iomega replace it. I waited till it stopped seeing the disks
entirely, and am paying for it.

David Crandall

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"America's achievement: history's best-dressed peasant class."
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dcrand1@gl.umbc.edu

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Date:    Sun, 1 Feb 1998 11:10:44 -0500
From:    Ed Hartley 
Subject: Re: ctlout and ZETA Violin

> Subject: ctlout question
> C Todd Robbins wrote

> I want to be able to pan a channel, and hear the pan WITHOUT having to
> retrigger the note. (I can do this fine with volume.)
>
> Can anyone shed some light on this one? (Could this be a limitation of
> my tone module, Yamaha TG300?)
>

Yes, this is a limitation on many tone modules. Maybe you can send the
synth through a multieffects unit?

> R. Albert Falesch wrote:
>
> Would someone be willing to share their experience with input to MAX
> from a ZETA violin?  I'm particularly interested in knowing whether one
> needs to "clean up" the data coming from this instrument.

I don't know about the ZETA, but in my experience with MIDI guitar I often
need to "clean" up a lot of extra pitch bends and mis-triggered notes.
Creating patches that look for specific notes can pose problems because
MIDI guitar will sometimes send pitch-bend info info instead. (As in,
instead of sending a D#, it will send a D with a positive pitch bend.) I'll
often record things to Studio Vision first and edit it there before I send
it to MAX. Of course, it's also  a matter of technique - MIDI guitar is
really a different ax than regular guitar and it's not very tolerant of
sloppiness. MIDI seems to have been developed by and for keyboard players
and we string players need to do some adapting. Such is life.

Ed Hartley

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Date:    Sun, 1 Feb 1998 12:45:16 -0500
From:    Adrienne Lee Harvey 
Subject: Macintosh 1X external cd rom drives...

does anyone know where I might be able to find these?  I am working on a
project that would require about 4 of them.

-Adrienne
harvey@tophat.stetson.edu

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Date:    Sun, 1 Feb 1998 22:38:15 +0100
From:    Jeffrey Burns 
Subject: route

Hi Maxophiles,

Has anyone out there written a _route_ object that will accept 88 or more
arguments??

Jeff Burns

http://www.snafu.de/~jeff

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Date:    Sun, 1 Feb 1998 20:06:24 -0500
From:    Taylor Brady 
Subject: Soundfile to CD

I've recently gained access to a CD burner, and, while this might be a
bit off-topic, it seemed this list might be the likeliest place to ask
the obvious question: How does one go about converting any of the
standard soundfile types (.wav, .aiff, .snd -- those three especially)
into CD audio?

Assuming that this turns out to be a question of which software to buy,
some rough indication of price would be greatly appreciated as well.

Thanks,
Taylor Brady

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Date:    Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:31:53 -0500
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: route

>Has anyone out there written a _route_ object that will accept 88 or mor=
e
>arguments??

>Jeff Burns

I could do it, but are you aware that you can string together =

multiple route objects for however many choices you want? Make
one with up to 10 arguments, and use the 11th outlet to go into
the first inlet of another route.  This way, you can also mix
symbols, floats, and ints since one route can handle symbols,
one can handle ints, etc.

Stephen Kay
The MegaMAX Collection : http:// www.musikinetix.com

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Date:    Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:31:57 -0500
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: ctlout question

>I want to be able to pan a channel, and hear the pan WITHOUT having to
>retrigger the note. (I can do this fine with volume.)

>Can anyone shed some light on this one? (Could this be a limitation of
>my tone module, Yamaha TG300?)

Many synths operate this way - it's not necessarily a limitation.  For
example, KORG synths will not pan a sustaining note.  The next note
played will be at the new position.  I actually kind of like this -
I've used it often in demo sequences to make a pad of notes "stereo",
by editing the chord so that each note has a different pan value
directly in front of it - this way you can spread the however many
notes of the chord across the stereo spectrum.  Also, if you are
panning an arpeggio for example that has a long release, each note
will stay where it was until it fades out with new notes going to
new positions.

Roland Sound Canvas, on the other hand, operates the way you want -
the sound pans even without retriggering the note.  But if you use
the example above of panning an arpeggio with long release, then all
the notes still releasing pan to the new position. Kind of ugly.

Stephen Kay
The MegaMAX Collection: http://www.musikinetix.com

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