Subject: MAX Digest - 26 Jan 1998 to 27 Jan 1998
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There are 6 messages totalling 213 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. msp benchmarks
  2. Where is:  atoi, itoa for:  Max 3.5 / 3.5.8 ?
  3. applescript?
  4. Application that Quits itself (2)
  5. seq, accuracy, benchmarks, Lobjects

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Date:    Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:53:32 -0800
From:    jhno 
Subject: Re: msp benchmarks

>I/O vectors 1024

aha - ! this does seem to make a difference, doesn't it? for whatever
reason i had my vector sizes at 64... the latest table:

machine         thru patch      cross dog       looper

PB G3           5.25
PTPro 225       10              50              18      I/O vectors 1024
PB 3400/240     6               68              28      I/O vectors 1024
PB 3400/240     11              81              36      I/O vectors 64
PM 7200/75/SM   16              78              64
PM 7200/75/AM3  28              0 **            68
PB 5300ce/118   90              xx              xx

does the 5300 crash any time the cpu clips?

I'll check out what I was using for vector sizes on the 7200 and update
later...

-jhno

ps - i just read the docs on vector sizes - which reminds me to extend

BIG KUDOS

to Christopher Dobrian and david z. on some of the clearest and most
readable documentation i have ever seen - ! it is a pleasure and a big
help.

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Date:    Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:33:42 -0800
From:    ai 
Subject: Where is:  atoi, itoa for:  Max 3.5 / 3.5.8 ?

Hello,

I'm using Max 3.5.8 / 3.5.9 on a PowerPC.

When I open up some older patchers of mine from v3.0,
Max complains saying:

* error: atoi: not available for Power PC
* error: itoa: not available for Power PC

Anyone know where I can find later versions of these objects?

Thanks   - ai@wco.com

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Date:    Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:55:00 +0100
From:    Jan Borchers 
Subject: Re: applescript?

Hi folks!

On 19 Jan, Elliott Earls  asked:

>is it possible to use max running in the background on a Mac to respond
>to simple notes on a keyboard. translate them to applescript then send
>them to another application?

I developed WorldBeat, an interactive music exhibit using infrared batons,
and a student of mine has written AScript, a MAX/AppleScript interface, as
part of this project. Check out 
to see what the project is about, and
http://www.tk.uni-linz.ac.at/~gueob/ascript.html to download AScript. From
the description:

"AScript brings the power of AppleScript to your MAX patches. You can
execute AppleScript scripts from within your MAX patch, and you can even
access your script=B4s global variables from your MAX patch."

Happy MAXing,

Jan

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Date:    Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:30:36 -0500
From:    Jon Witte 
Subject: Application that Quits itself

Hello Maxers,

I'd like to write a patch/stand-alone that quits itself after a
predetermined time interval.  I have worked out the timing part of the
patch, but I can't figure out how to get the application to quit.  Does
anyone have any ideas on how this might be accomplished.  Any help would
be most appreciated.

Thanx
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Jon Witte - Music Machine Studio

http://www2.cybernex.net/~jonwitte/
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Date:    Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:18:15 -0800
From:    Peter Elsea 
Subject: seq, accuracy, benchmarks, Lobjects

> and try and send the
>right output to read $1 I get an error.

The $1 argument to message doesn't work with symbols. Use [prepend read]
instead.

> I'M HAVING TIMING INACCURACIES
The main problem with timing is the timing mechanism of the Mac itself,
which is often out 0.5% or more. (It varies from Mac to Mac) It will be
consistent, so if you time a known reference, you can then do a bit of math
to get accurate results. Also, the usual stuff- get rid of MIDI manager,
turn appletalk off, and turn overdrive on. You weren't specific about what
you are trying to do, but some  things, like playing Quicktime instruments,
are just dreadful, and it isn't Max's fault.

Just to add my machines to the msp benchmark sweepstakes (on the throughput
test only)
8500 - 12%
9500-12%
1400- 60% (a real pity)
7100-45% (but with AM2 it dies when useage gets above 70%. I can't
recommend this configuration, even though it is my beloved home system.)

>I recently downloaded from the Ircam public site the PPC version
>of the Lobjects - I formerely worked with a Quadra 650.
>Two of them (Ladd and Ltop) don't seem to work : Max returns the
>message "not available for Power PC". Where could I found them ?

On the Max 3.5 CD (Sounds like a transmission problem or a stuffit error-
the data forks of those files got lost). Unfortunately the various archives
are out of sync on the Lobjects. When I get a little time I'll search out
the admins and make sure everyone has the latest- meantime, you can get
them from ftp://arts.ucsc.edu/pub/ems/Lobjects there are two versions,
Lupdate12_97 contains changes to the set released on the Max CD,
Lobjects12_97 is the whole works. (Ladd and Ltop will only be found in the
latter, but they're OK on the CD.) Both sets have complete documentation,
which is now in Docmaker format. All are FAT.

Peter Elsea
Electronic Music Studios
University of California, Santa Cruz
http://arts.ucsc.edu/EMS/Music/index.html
 elsea@cats.ucsc.edu

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Date:    Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:47:58 -0500
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: Application that Quits itself

>I'd like to write a patch/stand-alone that quits itself after a
>predetermined time interval.  I have worked out the timing part of the
>patch, but I can't figure out how to get the application to quit.  Does
>anyone have any ideas on how this might be accomplished.  Any help would=

>be most appreciated.
>Jon Witte - Music Machine Studio

In 3.5, you can send max the quit message.  Simply type ";max quit" in a =

message box (without the quotes) and click it or bang it.

Stephen Kay
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