Subject: MAX Digest - 17 Jan 1998 to 18 Jan 1998
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:00:48 -0500
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There are 7 messages totalling 273 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Can MSP playback "SDII" files?
  2. results of fanatic sarigama
  3. I objektz 2 th!s krap
  4. eXstatic
  5. problems with 'key'
  6. Power is back!
  7. International University Music Festival


Date:    Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:08:57 -0500
From:    "M. Abidh Waugh" 
Subject: Can MSP playback "SDII" files?

Does anybody know if the MSP extensions allow one to playback SDII files?

M. Abidh Waugh
President & C.E.O.
Abidh Enterprises


Date:    Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:42:25 +0000
Subject: results of fanatic sarigama

BUYO-BUYO-IGOR@SaRiGaMa's Oil Vending Orchestra $B!! (Jmailing..

Thanx to those that contributed your "SaRiGaMa" at my 1/2 interactive

Now I made it to upload some wackey alternate-tuned MID-files & AIFFs
When listening to MID thangs please be sure to set the pitch-bend-range
to "-2 to +2".

Most of the files got auto-algo-generated by the MAX app...created by
some people over here...thanx to that..

With a continuous minor-changes I'm willing to let this project grow
much better....aiming to full-interactive=realtime.



Date:    Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:48:15 -0600
From:    "C. Smith!" 
Subject: I objektz 2 th!s krap

> msp seems 2take over the snd manager input 1ns max = aktivatd.
> !z d!sz intentional || special feature ov demo || odr_?
> ichi.s aiff kan no longr rekord if msp present.

I was wondering if anybody has made a Max object to translate this guys


Date:    Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:37:30 +0200
From:    jose manuel berenguer 
Subject: eXstatic

>Because of the method of presentation, any piece you submit will be mixed
>other music, and possibly only an excerpt of your piece might be played: in
>other words, your music will be recontextualised, and you must be
>comfortable >with this type of treatment.

who could mix with good aestetical results  musics which has been thought
as static, closed, individual? Is MAX able to do this alone or are you
thinking on some human artistic participation?

jose manuel


Date:    Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:54:16 +0100
From:    Peter Castine 
Subject: Re: problems with 'key'

Stephen Kay wrote:
>OK, I looked at GetKeys(), but this is something you use when you want
>to read the keyboard directly.  I'm assuming that keyboard events are
>passed to MAX in an Event Loop, so it seems possible that individual
>key downs could be reported with more accuracy.  Isn't an event generated=
>for each key down?

The Event Manager never gets to hear about your fourth, fifth, and
etc.-th (quasi-simultaneous) keydowns if the Keyboard processor won't
tell it. This is what I was saying in my previous post.

  It's your ADB Keyboard that's the limiting factor.
  It's your ADB Keyboard that's the limiting factor.
  It's your ADB Keyboard that's the limiting factor.

[See the .sig]

No point in blaming Max.

A modern computer keyboard is just not designed to be a
MIDI-keyboard-ersatz. Remember what happens if you depress more than two
keys simultaneously on that old Corona-Smith mechanical typewriter your
parents had?

The main reason computer keyboards even deal with as many as two
simultaneous keydowns is to handle sloppy (and very fast) typing: a fast
typist may very well begin to depress the second key before the first key
is fully released. Think what would happen to speed typists if they had
to conciously type 'staccato' (if you hunt-and-peck, you probably won't
be able to imagine just how much of a limitation this would be).


--- ---
Dr. Peter Castine      | 'Just the place for a Snark!' I have said it
                       |   That alone should encourage the crew.
                       | Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice
                       |   What I tell you three times is true.'


Date:    Sun, 18 Jan 1998 14:18:19 -0500
From:    Christopher Murtagh 
Subject: Power is back!

Greetings all,

 For those of you who wondering what had happened to the listserv over the
last week:

 Quebec was hit by a pretty nasty freezing rain storm that knocked out
power to over a million people. There are still over 200,000 who haven't
had power since last Friday. Montreal was hit pretty hard and all four
universites were closed/powerless for the last week. Hopefully we have
seen the last of this, and the list should be running a-ok.

Best Wishes and happy new year.


Christopher Murtagh
B.Mus Computer Applications
McGill University
Faculty of Music

Obligatory Quote:
The Nuclear Arms Race Summary - Two men are sitting in a large pool of
gasoline. One has seven matches and the other has only five.


Date:    Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:07:39 +0100
From:    Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green 
Subject: International University Music Festival

The F.I.M.U : Festival International des Musiques Universitaires
(International University Music Festival)
Belfort 30-31 May & 1st june 1998 (Whitsuntide week end)
Welcomes young composers, students and or artists of contemporary music,
sound art, sound creation, improvisation, electroacoustic music=8Aetc.
To the New Music Forum

Direction des Affaires Culturelles
Hotel de Ville
F-90020 BELFORT Cedex
Tel : (33) 3 84 54 24 43
Fax :(33) 3 8421 7171 / (33) 3 8454 2526
Web Homepage:
Email :

The F.I.M.U. is a festival for all kinds of music interpreted by
international groups essentially composed of students or amateur musician=
It is a kind of music fair, all the concerts are free, non musicians come
from all over the local region and go from place to place to listen to
music in 15 theatres, concert halls or outdoor venues with continuous
concerts, with 2000 musicians from 20 countries and 10 to 50 thousand
spectators during a period of three days. Some people come in or out, som=
stay for the whole concert. Some exhibitions or installations are present=
as well. The majority of the audience are young people, and families...
Contemporary musicians, often known as serious or too serious, can benefi=
from this essential experience : a challenge to offer their music to a
genuine non specialised audience. Both the musicians and the audience mus=
move towards one another. The audience tries to listen to an unfamiliar
type of music and the musicians offer their music and try their best to
respond generously to the people's expectations. We believe this is one o=
the best ways to extract contemporary music out of its rut.
We prefer to select original music live performances and some
installations. But one concert, "le concert aveugle" is each year dedicat=
solely to tapes.

The Centre Choregraphique has been open for modern music performances sin=
1995. For three days, concerts and performances of new music take place i=
this beautiful theatre and over the past few years many young artists hav=
performed there.

Administration of the Festival :
             Organisation: Cinemas d'Aujourd'hui
             President: Michel Marchand
             Directeur: Richard Gorrieri
             Regisseur general: Yves Rodier
             Publications: Dominique Deplanche
             Accueil et inscriptions: Daisy Duvernoy
Animators of the New Music Forum :
             Jean Louis Baverel : Progam director
                                            (sound artist and social work=
             Roland Cahen : Artistic adviser
                                    (composer and electroacoustic music
             Jean Besanceney : Musical and technical coordination
                                         (musician an electronic music te=
             Pascal Marchand : Communication
                                         (composer and music teacher)

Welcomed artists (from 1995 to 1997) :
Electroacoustic music departement of Amiens (Pierre Boeswillwald) (France=
- Composition class of the "Music Academy der Stadt Basel" (Thomas Kessle=
(Switzerland) - Electroacoustic music class of the National Music School =
Montb=E9liard (Roland Cahen) (France) - Emmenthal Socapex : Theater Acade=
of Finland (departement of sound design and lighting) (Finland) -
Quattrophage : composers and improvisators of Rouen (France) - University
of Montreal (Teachers Marcelle Deschenne and Francis Dhomont) - Atelier d=
Creation Sonore (Montbeliard - France) - Hyperion : National Conservatory
of Naples (Italy) - Cellule Erratumique (Besan=E7on - France) - Ecole
Nationale des Beaux Arts de Paris (France) - Electroacoustic music class =
the National School of Music (Bourges - France) (Roger Cochini) -
University of Lille (CFMI) - Conservatory of Paris XX (Gino Favotti) -
National School of Music (Annecy - France)=8A

Practical questions :
This programme welcomes groups but individuals are not excluded.
The concerts : They last about one hour. The same programme is usually
presented several times (2 or 3)
The venue : It is a big new and nice place, with a good multiphonic sound
system and lights.
The timing : the time gap between each concert is short (20 - 30 minutes)=
some short rehearsals take place in the mornings and are open to the publ=
The festival offers lodging (in hotels) and meals to the musicians and
partly participates to travelling costs.
How to participate :
1) Write, telephone, fax, browse or Email for an application form, fill i=
in and return it as soon as possible
2) Send us a K7 or an CD or DAT of your works and a few lines about what
you wish to do.


End of MAX Digest - 17 Jan 1998 to 18 Jan 1998