Subject: MAX Digest - 15 Dec 1997 to 16 Dec 1997
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:00:16 -0500
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Topics of the day:

  1. MAX Digest - 14 Dec 1997 to 15 Dec 1997 - Special issue
  2. ; max 
  3. Akai byte offsets
  4. MAX MPS?
  5. Faders again
  6. Connecting two Macs
  7. interactive arts


Date:    Tue, 16 Dec 1997 04:38:16 +1100
From:    Garth Paine 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 14 Dec 1997 to 15 Dec 1997 - Special issue

>Date:    Tue, 16 Dec 1997 13:21:43 +1100
>From:    Iain Mott 
>Subject: Sound Mapping
>dear folks, the following announcement is for a sound art project that uses
>MAX extensively. hope it's cool to post it here.
>Sound Mapping - a sound journey through urban space
>by Iain Mott, Marc Raszewski & Jim Sosnin

I wish I could come down and see you piece, it sounds great.

Best of luck with it, I hope you get a great responce.



Sonic Residues: Sunday December 21, 1997
Concert programme and installation list at

Garth Paine
Composer, Sound Designer,
Museums, Dance, Film, Theatre
Interactive Immersive Environments
Phone 61 3 95259844 (W)
Fax 61 3 95275549

"Immersive Virtual Environments - A Social Perspective"


Date:    Tue, 16 Dec 1997 13:14:30 +0100
From:    "Dr. K@rlheinz Essl" 
Subject: ; max 

Some month ago David Z. was posting a list with secret MAX commands (like
"preempt", "quit" etc.) Unfortunately I cannot find it - could some nice
soul out there send it to me privetely again?

Another question: is it possible to obtain MAX's free memory *in a patch*?

Thanks in advance,

Dr. K@rlheinz Essl - Composer
Vienna / Austria


Date:    Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:02:08 +0000
From:    Jeremy Yuille 
Subject: Akai byte offsets

Thanks for the nibble tips, and in answer to..

>I'm not sure I understand your question about the byte offsets though.  Can
>you be more specific?

(apologies for specificity (length) ;)

The Akai Sysex Tomb describes the Structure of the Message Header as

Byte 0:   F0h
Byte 1:   47
Byte 2:   ?  (sysex channel)
Byte 3:   ?  (Sysex function code)
Byte 4:   48 (model ID)
Byte 5&6: ?,? (item index (14 bit nibbled))
Byte 7:   ?  (selector data (keygroups etc))
Byte 8&9: ?,? (byte offset into data item)*****
Bytes 10&11: ?,? (number of bytes of data)

So, a 'Recieve FX/Reverb' message is..

cc    (channel)
2E    (op code ;)
48    (model ID)
ff,ff (effect number)
bb    (selector range 0-4)
oo,oo (byte offset)
nn,nn (number of bytes of data)
ln,hn (first byte (nibbled))
..,.. (further data)
F7    End of exclusive

Then.. in the section that gives you all the 'acess codes' etc..
for example, the Ring mod gain..

Parameter: RMGAIN
offset:    16 Bytes (this value is different for each parameter)
                     eg. Ring mod Freq has value of 14 bytes.
Field size: 1 byte
Range:     0 to 99
Description: Ringmod Gain (%)

Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to get the unit to send me any
sysex data for study purposes.

I hope this is specific enough.. I don't understand if I nibble the
'offset' value, or do something else, as it's described in 'bytes'


Jeremy Yuille


Date:    Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:27:08 +0100
From:    Oeivind Idsoe 
Subject: MAX MPS?

I noticed in the David Zicarelly interview (from some URL posted to the list
while back) that the DSP extension for Max called MSP was supposed to be
released yesterday.

I've checked Opcode's web, but nothing's happened. Does this mean the
release of
MSP has been postponed?



Date:    Tue, 16 Dec 1997 19:00:07 +0100
From:    Eirik Lie 
Subject: Re: Faders again

>From:    Oeyvind Brandtsegg 
>I have no trouble with faders or numberboxes when numbers pass through
>them, but when I use the mouse cursor to change a value in a numberbox
>it will oftentimes lead to a system crash if I move the cursor more than
>just a little. I've been told that other users have also experienced
>this , and I wonder if the same is true for faders.

I have also encountered this problem some times, but I don't think the
number boxes are to blame. For example, connecting a number box to a
noteout makes it possible to send out MIDI noteons at a speed some older
synths may not handle. A system crash in a MIDI module sometimes makes it
send out a lot of meaningless MIDI data, which in turn will crash Max. You
may want to tick the "Send on mouse-up" option in the "get info" dialog of
the number box. Then the box will wait until you are finished changing the
value, before it sends out the number.
Hope this helps.

Eirik Lie, Bjornerabben 9, N-0383 Oslo, Norway
Email:   -   Tel +47 22 50 23 14
Check out my CD "12 Bilder":


Date:    Tue, 16 Dec 1997 21:47:55 +0000
From:    Thierry Fournier 
Subject: Connecting two Macs


I want to share datas in real time with another Max user via the Net.
What could be the simpliest way to do it ?
Thank you in advance...

Thierry Fournier
72 Boulevard de la Villette 75019 Paris France
Tel.  +33 01 48 03 32 40 Fax +33 01 48 03 26 23


Date:    Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:17:06 -0500
From:    "David Z.Saltz" 
Subject: Re: interactive arts

>Can anybody recommend good readings on interaction, technology and the arts
>which could supplement the MAX manuals?

The Journal of Aesthetics and Art Criticism published a special issue tha
might be of interest to you on Perspectives on the Arts and Technology in
Spring 1997 (vol 55, no. 2). I published an essay in that issue entitled
"The Art of Interaction: Interactivity, Performativity and Computers."
The essay is about interactive computer art in general, not just about
music, though I do discuss interactive computer music; I myself happen to
be a theater director and installation artist rather than a musician. I
talk about a few installations created with Max, though I don't mention
Max explicitly in the essay. There's also an interesting essay in that
issue by Timothy Binkley called "The Vitality of Digital Creation," which
focuses more on visual arts.

Though this topic isn't strictly Max-related, if there are books or
essays about interactive art that people on this list have found
especially useful (either for themselves or for teaching purposes), I for
one would be very interested in getting the references!


End of MAX Digest - 15 Dec 1997 to 16 Dec 1997