Subject: MAX Digest - 13 Dec 1997 to 14 Dec 1997
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 00:00:51 -0500
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There are 6 messages totalling 163 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Max video control
  2. outrageous LaTrobe
  3. Akai sysex nibbles
  4. Faders & crashing
  5. MAX Digest - 12 Dec 1997 to 13 Dec 1997
  6. called Interactor


Date:    Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:09:03 -0800
From:    Richard Zvonar 
Subject: Re: Max video control

On Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:50:13 David Crandall  wrote:

>Your project sounds similar to the performances of Troika Ranch (at
>  They use body sensors and
>proprietary software (called Interactor) that their director developed at
>Cal Arts.  I've not had the chance to see them in person yet, but I'd love
>to get a comparison of the latencies of the 2 systems (Interactor and
>Max).  Anybody seen them?

Interactor has been commercially available for several years and may be
ordered from Interval Music . The
program was developed by Mark Coniglio and Morton Subotnick. I think it's a
good program, and for some applications it may be more suitable than Max
(and vice versa). There's a demo available.

Mark and his partner Dawn Stoppiello moved from LA to New York a couple
years ago and appear to be doing very well.  Their schedule is quite full
with performances and residencies.  Their address is 

Richard Zvonar, PhD                    
(818) 760-8055 voice/fax



Date:    Sun, 14 Dec 1997 03:53:39 -0500
From:    Nick Longo 
Subject: Re: outrageous LaTrobe

Subject: Akai sysex nibbles

I'm trying to control my Akai s2000's effects via sysex.
Having spent the last week or so reading and studying the system
exclusive format (using a sound canvas manual, and the sound canvas
panel in the 3.5 release among others)....

I sent to Akai for their specs, and recieved something that seemed to be
completely different (at least from what I understand)

It describes 'byte offsets', and the 'data' being sent in nibbled form,
which I 'sort ov' undrestand
Does anyone know where I can find some information that may explain this
in reasonably simple terms (if that is possible ;)or if anyone has had
experience with other akai 'S' series samplers, particularly the recent
ones, that they would like to share.


jeremy yuille


Date:    Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:50:03 -0500
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: Faders & crashing

>The reason I'm asking
>is that I have experienced close to consistent crashing with user
>controllable number boxes, and I wonder if it might happen with faders

>Oeyvind Brandtsegg

In my experience, number boxes and sliders are about the most
fool proof Max objects.  If you are getting consistent crashing
from a numbox, it must be what's connected to the output
(your patch :-) and not the numbox.

Stephen Kay


Date:    Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:56:38 -0500
From:    "David Z.Saltz" 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 12 Dec 1997 to 13 Dec 1997

>It sounds like a job for videodisk; last time I looked there were objects
>included for control of various players.

I agree that a laserdisk is the best way to go if you really care about
video quality. I've used Max to control laserdisks very successfully (in
an environmental production of late Beckett plays -- probably not a
project up to the lofty interactive/algorithmic standards of some members
of this list, but perhaps a slightly more respectable project than the
previous one I dared to mention, for which I was flamed, not that I'm
still bitter or anything).

An important catch is that if you need to switch rapidly from one video
sequence to another, you'll need a high-speed laserdisk player. Standard
models take a second or so to access different parts of the disk, which
is OK for some applications, but probably far to slow for an interactive
dance performance.

Of course, a cheaper method is to play digital video directly from the
Mac, either playing the video directly in Max or using a program like
X<>Pose (the latter producing better results, but still not as good as
laserdisk). We discussed the ins and outs of this issue recently (when
the aforementioned flamethrowing occurred).

>The trick is to find a disk
>manufacturer who will sell you a "check disk" or one-off disk, rather than
>preparing the disks for mass production, which is very expensive.  I had
>to look far and wide for a company that would do this and finally found
>one in California who are reputed to charge US$ 150 for a single laser
>disk.  I suspect you might find one closer to home. I never contacted them
>since I ended up using videotape for my project.

I also had a hard time finding someone to press the disk. I ended up
using a place called Magno Sound & Video in New York (212-302-2505).
However their rates were considerably higher than US$150. As I recall,
the rate was more like $250 for up to 30 minutes. They did a great job,
though. I'd love to get the name of the California company.


Date:    Sun, 14 Dec 1997 15:55:58 -0600
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Subject: called Interactor

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End of MAX Digest - 13 Dec 1997 to 14 Dec 1997