Subject: MAX Digest - 2 Dec 1997 to 3 Dec 1997
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 00:01:18 -0500
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Reply-To: MAX - interactive music/multimedia standard environments
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There are 6 messages totalling 199 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. bt /n!ck headspassukx
  2. Digital Audio / Max
  3. Downloading XPose
  4. Duo 230
  5. QT playback/ATI XclaimVR
  6. Zorin board


Date:    Wed, 3 Dec 1997 00:33:59 -0600
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: bt /n!ck headspassukx

>Date:    Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:34:18 -0800
>From:    Chris Muir 
>Subject: Digital Audio / Max
>With all the recent discussion of audio playback in Max I thought I'd take
>this opportunity to do a little market research. Headspace, the company I
>work for, has a software synth that is pretty efficient. We have a Netscape
>Plug-in, called Beatnik, that is a 32 voice synth that can play MIDI files,
>linear audio files, and our own RMF files. The next version of the plug-in
>will be 64 voices.


>Would there be much interest in a Max object that did pretty much the same
>stuff as Beatnik? How much would you pay for it?

110000 = 30 = 48 = 0

>Sorry to have such a marketing hat on, but if I'm going to do this I have
>to be able to justify it to the rest of the company.



Date:    Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:10:37 -0500
From:    James Garfield 
Subject: Re: Digital Audio / Max

Chris Muir wrote:
> Would there be much interest in a Max object that did pretty much the
> same stuff as Beatnik?

I would be really interested in this, mostly to get around having to
hook the Beatnik Editor up to Max via OMS.  Also, if the Beatnik object
for Max had a bunch of interactive control functions like the plug-in
does, I think it would be much more useful and fun to experiment with.
Really, anything is better than QuickTime "Musical" Instruments, and I'm
truly impressed with the sound quality of the Headspace Audio Engine.

So how do you imagine implementing this in Max?  Would the object have
its own built-in GUI of some sort (perhaps resembling the Beatnik
Editor), or would it be a suite of related objects...or both? or
something totally different?  I'm really curious about this!  I think
it's a great idea, and I know it would make my life simpler.


James Garfield                           BadRat Multimedia Productions             


Date:    Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:56:13 +0100
From:    Jan Borchers 
Subject: Re: Downloading XPose

I emailed ArKaos about the downloading problem. They fixed it; it's OK now.



>David Crandall wrote:
>>I've been trying to download the X<>POSE demo and am getting access denied
>>using the address:
>>Anybody know one that works?
>I wrote to Steinberg and received a free demo CD. (The demo only worked
>smoothly when I raised the RAM allocation to 60 MB.)
>Jeff Burns

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Date:    Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:52:59 +0100
From:    Jean Paul Laurent 
Subject: Re: Duo 230

Jukka Ylitalo wrote:

>I'm considering investment to Powerbook Duo 230 for doing Max? Has anyone
>experience? Does it work?

I've been running Max (3.0 and 3.5) on a Duo 230. No problem with Max,...
but with system 7.1: sometimes unexpected freeze, always crash after
'sleep' mode.
Since I installed 7.5.1, I had no more problem.

Jean Paul L.

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Date:    Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:47:28 -0700
From:    Alex Stahl 
Subject: Re: QT playback/ATI XclaimVR

I'll take Hardware Trivia for 10 points, Monty:

>I have just spent some weeks programming QT video playback from within MAX
>using a ATI Xclaim VR card.
>I can only conclude that it is the way MAX caches the video, or treats the
>playback - ie not acknowledging the board is there for the decompression

Maybe not.

According to ATI, the XclaimVR hardware Cinepak decompression is only
enabled when the QT window size is NOT an integer multiple of the movie
size. So, a 320*240 movie playing in a 320*240 or a 640*480 window would
not benefit from the card's accelerator, but the same movie playing in a
352*264 window would.  A friend of mine bumped into this trying to use the
card to accelerate
QT playback within Deck, where the QT windows cannot be freely scaled.  ATI
at that time said they had no plans to even consider this a bug, let alone
fix it.



Date:    Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:58:24 -0700
From:    Alex Stahl 
Subject: Re: Zorin board

At 10:01:32:12.2 PM (30DF) -0700 11/17/97, Automatic digest processor

>From:    Jeff Mann 

>I haven't used the Zorin board, but recently I used a BASIC Stamp II
>(see ) for sensor input, and I was quite
>happy with it.
>On the other hand, it might be difficult to use it as an output device,
>because it's serial (MIDI) port isn't buffered, so it could lose
>incoming MIDI information if it was off doing another task. Also, you
>have to optoisolate a MIDI in connector. I haven't tried this.

I have. The Basic Stamp II is too slow to receive more than an occasional
MIDI message in
a sparse data stream (think program changes, not controllers), but it can
be done.  Too bad, these little boards are otherwise quite wonderful. For
Max I/O, it is better to hang the Stamp off a serial port directly and
communicate with it at a lower baud rate.

-Alex Stahl
"One reason that life is complex is that it
has a real part and an imaginary part."
                -Andrew Koenig


End of MAX Digest - 2 Dec 1997 to 3 Dec 1997