Subject: MAX Digest - 26 Nov 1997 to 27 Nov 1997
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 00:00:50 -0500
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There are 4 messages totalling 131 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. old/ancient message (2)
  2. dsp obdzhekt
  3. MAX 3.0 under MacOS 8?

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Date:    Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:50:57 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: old/ancient message

>What peaked my curiosity was not a linguistic insight, but a need for
>translation, as his message seems to contain some useful, though, for me,
>unextractable information.  What is this "dsp objekt" he speaks of?

I think you mean "piqued"? Anyway, =cw4t7abs is referring to the
dsp object that used to come with versions 2.0 and 2.2 of Max.
It let you download 56000 code into an Audiomedia card and, if
the code was written properly, send it parameter updates. It
was written by Adrian Freed at CNMAT and some other guy whose
name I've unfortunately forgotten, but I do remember that he said
to me once after I expressed some unorthodox views about cognitive
science, "Them's fightin' words."

I don't believe that we took the matter out to the parking lot
however.  But in any case, the object was not maintained and was
dropped as of version 2.5.

David Z.

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Date:    Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:35:05 +0100
From:    dudas 
Subject: dsp obdzhekt

Peter Nyboer writes:

>What peaked my curiosity was not a linguistic insight
>[on the part of antiorp], but a need for
>translation, as his message seems to contain some useful, though, for me,
>unextractable information.  What is this "dsp objekt" he speaks of?

The 'DSP' object was an early attempt at doing signal processing on a mac.
The object was created at CNMAT, and initially distributed with Max
versions 2.0 to 2.5. The object used dsp chips of the old Digidesign cards
(SoundAccellerator-RevB, Audiomedia I), back in the days when Digidesign
let developers access their cards directly. To my knowlegde, this object
never functioned on an Audiomedia II or other (and more recent) cards.

Although I never saw it in action myself, I heard it was very cool,
although rather limited.  It is almost completely useless today, and only
works on 68k macs. If you have one of these old Digidesign cards lying
around, it could bring new life into your dusty old Mac IIsi... you'll have
to learn how to write 56k assembly code, though, if you want to do anything
above and beyond what is shown in the help patches.

If DSP is your thing, I'd wait until something better comes along.

-Xoaz MacDudas

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Date:    Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:26:06 +0100
From:    Jan Borchers 
Subject: MAX 3.0 under MacOS 8?

Hi fellow Maxers!

Simple question: Does MAX 3.0 (not 3.5.x) run OK under MacOS 8?

(I know I will have to authorize the disk under System 7.x.)

Thanks!

Jan

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Date:    Fri, 28 Nov 1997 18:08:59 +0100
From:    David Rodger 
Subject: Re: old/ancient message

Peter Nyboer wrote:
>
>    >Of course, you can always use the Digidesign Sound Drivers extension
to
>    >route the sound output of the "AiffPlayer" or "aiff" object to
ProTools or
>    >the newer Digi cards for a high quality output.  However, you are
still
>    >stuck with the Sound Manager's inherent delay.
>
>    ja.aber. dzie dsp objekt providez access 2the motorola dsp which iz
niss.
>    the dsp objekt works v.well with audiomedia 1.+is available as
maxselpro
>    [audiomedia]

Translation:  The dsp object provides access to the Motorola DSP which is
nice.
  The dsp object works very well with the Audiomedia I and is available as
  [don't know what Maxselpro means].

On the emusic-l list, Antiorp provided a URL for a hack of AMII cards, but
it doesn't use the standard Digi protocols.

>ftp://shoko.calarts.edu/pub/musik-dsp/rbj_am.sit.hqx

Of course, Antiorp's zpanking made it into the URL.  The _real_ URL is

    ftp://shoko.calarts.edu/pub/music-dsp/rbj_am.sit.hqx
                                    ^
                               (note the "c")
I don't think this is what you were referring to, Peter, but it might help.

Regards, David

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