Subject: MAX Digest - 24 Nov 1997 to 25 Nov 1997
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 00:01:18 -0500
From: Automatic digest processor 
Reply-To: MAX - interactive music/multimedia standard environments
To: Recipients of MAX digests 

There are 8 messages totalling 208 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. access to the patcher struct in external
  2. MAX Digest - 20 Nov 1997 to 21 Nov 1997
  3. MAX Digest - 23 Nov 1997 to 24 Nov 1997
  4. !=
  5. to ascii or not to ascii
  6. sorry
  7. qtmusic and # of channels
  8. Aiff/PPC Native


Date:    Mon, 24 Nov 1997 23:09:50 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: access to the patcher struct in external

Jean Favory  sez:

>Someone can tell me if it is possible, in a normal external object
>(not one with a user interface), to have access to the patcher struct
>containing it.

When your new instance routine is called for a normal object,
the patcher is bound to the symbol #P and the box is bound to
#B. From the latter you can get to the former, or just get to
the former directly.

In other words:

t_patcher *p = gensym("#P")->s_thing;

Happy hacking,

David Z.


Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:46:17 +0100
From:    "sjoerd-w. bijleveld" 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 20 Nov 1997 to 21 Nov 1997

Automatic digest processor wrote:

> > I've been playing around with the QTMA Atomic Editor discussed on this
> list back at the start of the month. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get
> my system to recognize the extension file the application creates --
> it's there in the extensions folder, but doesn't show up in the
> Extensions Manager, and its instruments aren't accessible to MAX through
> the "qtmusic" object.
> Since other folks seem to have left off posting about this, I assume
> that either everyone else has given up in frustration, or that no one
> else is having this problem, and is thus happily off creating new
> instruments. If it's the latter, could one of these lucky people help me
> figure out what I'm doing wrong? Is this an OS 8 problem?
> Taylor Brady

I have been 'playing' around for the last two weekends with the QTMA editor
and after NUMEROUS restarts I found out that the system only recognises QT
instruments extensions that are brandnew to the system. What I mean is that
soon as you load (and edit) a *previous* saved new instrument file and save
again, QT won't recognise the file anymore (even if you use the same name).
This is ofcourse a real pain in ... The best thing you can do is make ONE
instrument at a time (write down the instrument knobs settings), save this
instrument  and if you are not satisfied with the instrument, remove the
from your extension folder and make a NEW instrument from scratch.
Another thing is that you need the instrument number in order to control the
instrument from within MAX. All the instruments in the QT Musical
file have General Midi instr. numbers (from 1 to 127(?)), only the drum
instrument has number 16385. Your OWN instrument number starts at 32770 and
up. Which number it is exactly, you can find out by trial an error. Max
reports an error when your message contains a wrong number. Another way is
make a COPY of your instrument file, load this file in the QTMA editor and
the option 'GM instrument info' (although the QTMA editor documentation says
that this option doesnt work) it gives you the instrument number. Be sure
to save this file (see above).
If you have some more questions about QTMA editor, you are welcome.

Sjoerd-W. Bijleveld


Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:10:21 +0200
From:    Peter Castine 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 23 Nov 1997 to 24 Nov 1997

Jaime Heilpern  wrote:
>          . As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's
>Government conceded that English spelling has some room for
>improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what
>will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
>In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c".

The rest is schnipped because it was all stolen from Mark Twain (pretty
literally, too). And Mr. Clemens probably stole it from someone else.

But, as I always say, "Great artists don't borrow, they steal."

Remember folks, you heard it hear first;-)  Ohda och nich, as they say in




Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:10:27 +0200
From:    Peter Castine 
Subject: Re: !=

Peter Elsea wrote:
>(Shall we chip in and buy Stephen a copy of Eudora? )

No, Claris EMailer is better.

(Great, now we can have flame wars over  mail clients ;-)


Peter -- gettin' out the flame-proof longjohns.


Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:26:19 -0500
From:    Erick 
Subject: to ascii or not to ascii

It's just like your mother said: "Ignore them and they'll go away.
You're just making it worse by paying attention to them."


Date:    Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:32:10 +0100
From:    Tom Mays 
Subject: Re: AiffPlayer + ComicRelief

>>concerning >nGl!sh =3D 3R-d ln-gwAj<<  (no native speaker


Would those of you who see the word "bold" written 4 times in the above
text like to join a petition to maintain an ASCII ONLY email universe?!

I can't tell "creative character uses" from MIME, from RTF from
from just plain spelling errors, from ...


(pas fach=E9, mais franchement d=E9courag=E9
  ((If you see the above accents correctly YOU ARE A SUSPECT!))

      <<"strictly ascii" for the last three years...>>


Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:53:52 +0100
From:    Isabelle Jenniches 
Subject: sorry

>I agree that, in 1997/98, including HTML-tags in e-mail is bad form.

dear all,
can't believe I started this whole discussion about how to format your
e-mail --have
to confess that I just hit "apple b" out came  --all you
wizzes on this list,
I have to beg your pardon, this is my first concsiuos encounter with those
codes --guess I learned my lesson --to everybody whom I upset, that was
not my intention.


Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:09:58 -0500
From:    Taylor Brady 
Subject: qtmusic and # of channels

The documentation for the qtmusic mentions something about being able to
set (or "define," or something like that) the number of channels
available to the object. However, I seem to be stuck with a one-channel
maximum. Is there a way to reset this number from within MAX, or, if
not, from ResEdit?

Also, how might this affect the performance of the "pick" command? I've
tried sending "pick 2" to qtmusic, but the dialog box still asks me to
set an instrument for channel one.

Taylor Brady


Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 1997 23:18:48 +0100
From:    "Philippe Montémont" 
Subject: Aiff/PPC Native

Hello Maxers,

Does anyone know where I can find an object able to play aiff files
which is PPC native?

Quelqu'un sait-il ou je peux trouver un objet capable de lire les
fichiers aiff et qui soit natif PPC?

Thank you / Merci


End of MAX Digest - 24 Nov 1997 to 25 Nov 1997